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Fulgore 05-12-2015 07:54 PM

Lag is a part of the game. Some people do, some don't. As a sparrer looking to improve, you should just accept that first I think. As stated before, try not to move forward a lot when going against someone who does. It helps me to stay back and play the "safe" game. If I don't get a hit in with some swings that's ok, as long as I don't get sniped by them either. Spars like this have a much more strategic element than ones where neither player lags a lot, which are naturally more reactionary. The mixed room is still where you'll find all of the best sparrers, hands down.

Also, if you ever want to contact me in game for help, feel free to do so. I'd be glad to do as much as I can.

3301 05-12-2015 08:07 PM

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Also, if you ever want to contact me in game for help, feel free to do so. I'd be glad to do as much as I can.
I only see you having 2250 wins, do you really have that much exp in spar?

Zetectic 05-12-2015 08:14 PM

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Posted by 3301 (Post 564764)
I only see you having 2250 wins, do you really have that much exp in spar?

don't judge someone by their record.

Blu 05-12-2015 08:46 PM

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Posted by 3301 (Post 564764)
I only see you having 2250 wins, do you really have that much exp in spar?

lol

Fulgore 05-12-2015 08:47 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 564768)
don't judge someone by their record.

I'll leave it at this. Won't go into too much detail.

Colin 05-12-2015 08:49 PM

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Posted by 3301 (Post 564764)
I only see you having 2250 wins, do you really have that much exp in spar?

Given he's in Alumni and has won GST multiple times I'd say he has experience.

Another thing that could help Blu* is guild sparring against all the boosting guilds right now which would give you plenty of practice.

Try to remain on the topic of helping and not picking at other members

Zetectic 05-12-2015 09:02 PM

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Posted by Colin (Post 564783)
Given he's in Alumni and has won GST multiple times I'd say he has experience.

Another thing that could help Blu* is guild sparring against all the boosting guilds right now which would give you plenty of practice.

Try to remain on the topic of helping and not picking at other members

Sarah, Zid likes to get a partner and do 2v5 in gs. It's their way of practicing their skills.

I get rekt in 2v5. I'm much more like a 1v1 sparrer. Trying to get used to 2v1 by guild sparring more before the GST.

3301 05-12-2015 09:52 PM

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don't judge someone by their record.
What are the W-L stats for if it's not to be judged by? Losing too much=bad sparrer.
A good sparrer wouldn't lose much, it's not an arguable thing.
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Given he's in Alumni and has won GST multiple times I'd say he has experience.
I personally don't see him spar that much, too many sparrers in the "big sparring guilds" are picking against who they're against. GST's guild subs win without doing anything, it doesn't show much skill.
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Try to remain on the topic of helping and not picking at other members
I am on the topic, I cannot see how can someone with 2000 wins be experienced in spar. You clearly have been picking at me, deleted 2 posts of mine that were totally appropriate and on topic.

Fulgore 05-12-2015 10:01 PM

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Posted by 3301 (Post 564832)
What are the W-L stats for if it's not to be judged by? Losing too much=bad sparrer.
A good sparrer wouldn't lose much, it's not an arguable thing.

I personally don't see him spar that much, too many sparrers in the "big sparring guilds" are picking against who they're against. GST's guild subs win without doing anything, it doesn't show much skill.

I am on the topic, I cannot see how can someone with 2000 wins be experienced in spar. You clearly have been picking at me, deleted 2 posts of mine that were totally appropriate and on topic.

Look, I'm doing the best I can to help this person, and it's up to him to take my advice for what he appraises it to be. If you don't feel this way, that's fine, just don't come in for the sole purpose of attempting to insult someone legitimately trying to help.

MBK 05-12-2015 10:04 PM

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Posted by 3301 (Post 564832)
What are the W-L stats for if it's not to be judged by? Losing too much=bad sparrer.
A good sparrer wouldn't lose much, it's not an arguable thing.

I personally don't see him spar that much, too many sparrers in the "big sparring guilds" are picking against who they're against. GST's guild subs win without doing anything, it doesn't show much skill.

I am on the topic, I cannot see how can someone with 2000 wins be experienced in spar. You clearly have been picking at me, deleted 2 posts of mine that were totally appropriate and on topic.

ehem... -.- bch

Red 05-12-2015 10:06 PM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 564842)
Look, I'm doing the best I can to help this person, and it's up to him to take my advice for what he appraises it to be. If you don't feel this way, that's fine, just don't come in for the sole purpose of attempting to insult someone legitimately trying to help.

^^^

Zetectic 05-12-2015 10:07 PM

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Posted by 3301 (Post 564832)
What are the W-L stats for if it's not to be judged by? Losing too much=bad sparrer.
A good sparrer wouldn't lose much, it's not an arguable thing.

You said having only 2250 win is a lack of experience, you weren't talking about W-L ratio.
If you are talking about W-L. Mel is a good example. She has a lot of losses, but she's better than many others.

Arguably, It's pretty easy to manipulate the spar system. I can choose to spar selectively and have a 10-1 ratio. Does that make me a good sparrer? No lol, I will still get owned by players in the Streak room. However if I kept sparring in the streak room, gain a lot of losses and eventually become really good. Then I am not a bad sparrer.

BTW Fulgore plays Unholy Nation, he plays a lot of spar events. I think that counts as your experience.



Just for you 3301. This is Thallen's list of approved top tier sparrers from UN.
http://www.graalians.com/forums/atta...0&d=1430785906
Some of them plays iClassic. You can ask them for an advice. Pretty sure most of them have sparred like 100,000 times on UN.

Blu 05-12-2015 10:30 PM

Fulgore, is one of the best sparrers in my eyes.
He helps people, as shown in this thread. Is polite, is a good sparrer and is a nice guy.
Just because he has less wins than some people, doesn't mean he's worse.

GOAT 05-12-2015 10:44 PM

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Posted by 3301 (Post 564764)
I only see you having 2250 wins, do you really have that much exp in spar?

A lot of people selectively sparred until they got to a record they felt good about and then used GS to improve their spar skills. Point being that a lot of players used GS to become better sparrers, so they wouldn't get bad ratios.


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