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Ivy 12-23-2015 11:39 AM
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Posted by Zetectic (Post 648616)
I call this BS.
Why?

Eugeen 12-23-2015 12:43 PM
I have never been satisfied with the US, oh wait I don't even live there

Zetectic 12-23-2015 03:25 PM
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Posted by MrSimons (Post 648623)
haha lmfao.

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Posted by Ivy (Post 648688)
I am upper class
:)^^

Ivy 12-23-2015 04:45 PM
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Posted by Zetectic (Post 648845)
haha lmfao.



:)^^
I'm like middle upper class, but upper class is really pushing it :rolleyes:

I live very comfortably. This is because my mom works hard to provide things for us <3
I was spoiled by both of my parents as a kid though tbh.

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 648623)
Got some weird looks earlier watching this in class lol

TomatoPanda 12-23-2015 05:01 PM
I think its funny how everyone makes fun of trump and not Cruz when cruz wants to make schools teach the bible again and not allow people to be gay (look up some info on the people who sponser him you'll be shocked which is why I have to go with trump ATM)

Conquest 12-23-2015 05:37 PM
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Posted by Ivy (Post 648476)
I am pretty unsatisfied for a multitude of reasons. Number one being that someone so psychotic/sociopathic is allowed to run for president. This person is also extremely racist, xenophobic, mysogonistic, islamophobic, and homophobic.
There's actually a lot of racism in America in general, but I could list things for days.
Another reason is the exceedingly high amount of stupid people in this country.
Overall, I give it a -5/7.
However, I am a mixed, bisexual, middle class, law abiding, athiest female. So there is a huge bias here.
If we are to look at the negative; I'll agree with a large part of this; and also how prostitutes are being worshipped in the media as "glamorous, beautiful people" and their fake marriages. Similarly, more common prostitutes running around using each other for resources and comfort, lying to people to rape them by fraud, constantly trying to arouse people, spreading drugs to replace affection, calling their spouts of year-long whoring "monogamy", people having abortions, men running around on their women and abandoning them, people obsessed with money & looks, popularity contests, spiritual & secular wars, racial wars, theft being called a score, greed being glorified as success, superficial beauty, brainwashing through marketing giving people endless amounts of insecurity and offering them dangerous services & products, encouraging degradation. The list goes on and on.

The politics at current are completely bribed campaigns of dirtbags, because the masses look to cheap media outlets for popular opinions & candidates.

This country is going to hell in a hand-basket if people won't wakeup and start asking why Miley Cyrus is swinging naked on a recking ball on Vh1 licking a hammer, why Trump is speaking like Hitler, government approved radio waves are a revolving cast of hypersexualized erotic dancers, young girls have bulimia and nose jobs. A very high percentage likes to scapegoat the loving traditions in other countries for this free-for-all, soulless nightmare as being "trash that needs wiped off the face of this planet"—then wonder why everyone's saying the same about us.

The Doctor 12-23-2015 05:45 PM
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Posted by Crono (Post 648679)
if you have money america is the ****ing ****. jackpot would be if you find a place that doesn't whip their IT crew like slaves.
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MrSimons 12-23-2015 06:29 PM
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Posted by Skill (Post 648659)
Teachers get paid far more than enough. The job market for teachers is far too competitive as is, its very difficult to find a job as one. We have no shortage of teachers, raising their pay would result in an even worse surplus of teachers due to making it a more desirable job market to pursue.

Too high of a salary will actually make the quality of teachers WORSE, because you'll have people taking on the job because it pays well rather than because they like teaching children. By making it a decent wage, but not high, the people that become teachers do it because they are passionate about it, not because they're chasing the highest paying job market.

Also, teachers get far better benefits than most full time employees in the form of pensions and whatnot. The problem with a lot of people is that when they look at employee compensation, all they look at is the raw cash salary, but they don't look at other things like quality of insurance, matching a 401k, etc.
You are joking right? I live in Arizona, where we put the least amount of money into education in the entire nation. I've had highschool teachers that are having to work a second job on top of teaching, or will be paying off student loans still when they are 45. One of my teachers that I talked to was netting a fat 26,000 a year.

More money could definitely be put into teacher salaries without seeing a sharp decline in quality teachers, we'd probably get people who want to be teachers, but wouldn't prior because they didn't want to have to worry about money the rest of their life.

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Posted by TomatoPanda (Post 648947)
I think its funny how everyone makes fun of trump and not Cruz when cruz wants to make schools teach the bible again and not allow people to be gay (look up some info on the people who sponser him you'll be shocked which is why I have to go with trump ATM)
Not nearly as ridiculous as what Trump says, thats casual southern talk. Obama wasn't totally in support of gay marriage either much prior to Obergefell v. Hodges. Politicians change their walk real fast when the pressure is on them.

Fysez 12-23-2015 06:34 PM
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Posted by MrSimons (Post 649045)
You are joking right? I live in Arizona, where we put the least amount of money into education in the entire nation. I've had highschool teachers that are having to work a second job on top of teaching, or will be paying off student loans still when they are 45. One of my teachers that I talked to was netting a fat 26,000 a year.

More money could definitely be put into teacher salaries without seeing a sharp decline in quality teachers, we'd probably get people who want to be teachers, but wouldn't prior because they didn't want to have to worry about money the rest of their life.
This.
I think I'd have chosen a career choice in that of an IT highschool teacher if the income wasn't so ****ty.
I really like teaching to code, but it isn't worth it if I can make double to triple that of a teacher if I just code on my own

Xenthic 12-23-2015 06:38 PM
I'm not American but do any of you guys worry about an economic collapse and the effects that could happen?

Latte 12-23-2015 06:42 PM
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Posted by Skill (Post 648659)
Teachers get paid far more than enough. The job market for teachers is far too competitive as is, its very difficult to find a job as one. We have no shortage of teachers, raising their pay would result in an even worse surplus of teachers due to making it a more desirable job market to pursue.

Too high of a salary will actually make the quality of teachers WORSE, because you'll have people taking on the job because it pays well rather than because they like teaching children. By making it a decent wage, but not high, the people that become teachers do it because they are passionate about it, not because they're chasing the highest paying job market.

Also, teachers get far better benefits than most full time employees in the form of pensions and whatnot. The problem with a lot of people is that when they look at employee compensation, all they look at is the raw cash salary, but they don't look at other things like quality of insurance, matching a 401k, etc.





You can only be impeached if you break the law or lie under oath. Just because he does something you or even most people disagree with doesn't mean he could be impeached.
Uhh? I don't know where you live, but salary is a huge problem for teachers. Mostly because its a vicious trap-- it requires college degrees, then the salary cannot pay for student debts. This may not be always the case in colleges, but most definitely in public schools. The benefits are not nearly where they need to be to improve US's education to catch up with the rest of the world. It's not hard to find a teacher. It's hard to find good ones.

As for Trump, he's no stranger to the court. He has a long list of legal issues in the past. While saying disagreeable things won't get him impeached, trying to act on them without approval of Congress-- aka both parties-- will get him impeached. Which is why I think most of what he's saying won't happen, unless he does something outrageous. Maybe he'll find some legal loophole that allows him to put muslims in camps during wartime.

MrSimons 12-23-2015 07:29 PM
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Posted by Xenthic (Post 649055)
I'm not American but do any of you guys worry about an economic collapse and the effects that could happen?
If you are referring to the American economy, do you have any reason we should?

Ivy 12-23-2015 07:33 PM
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Posted by Conquest (Post 648980)
If we are to look at the negative; I'll agree with a large part of this; and also how prostitutes are being worshipped in the media as "glamorous, beautiful people" and their fake marriages. Similarly, more common prostitutes running around using each other for resources and comfort, lying to people to rape them by fraud, constantly trying to arouse people, spreading drugs to replace affection, calling their spouts of year-long whoring "monogamy", people having abortions, men running around on their women and abandoning them, people obsessed with money & looks, popularity contests, spiritual & secular wars, racial wars, theft being called a score, greed being glorified as success, superficial beauty, brainwashing through marketing giving people endless amounts of insecurity and offering them dangerous services & products, encouraging degradation. The list goes on and on.

The politics at current are completely bribed campaigns of dirtbags, because the masses look to cheap media outlets for popular opinions & candidates.

This country is going to hell in a hand-basket if people won't wakeup and start asking why Miley Cyrus is swinging naked on a recking ball on Vh1 licking a hammer, why Trump is speaking like Hitler, government approved radio waves are a revolving cast of hypersexualized erotic dancers, young girls have bulimia and nose jobs. A very high percentage likes to scapegoat the loving traditions in other countries for this free-for-all, soulless nightmare as being "trash that needs wiped off the face of this planet"—then wonder why everyone's saying the same about us.
Abortions aren't a problem at all in society.
First of all, not everyone is suited for children (like me, for example, but I'm getting my tubes tied the first chance I get :))

Second, kids are ****ing expensive. Not to mention they're an 18 (or more) year long burden.

Additionally, There's already more than enough kids in the system that may never be adopted, and adopting a child is a long and difficult process, especially for POC (people of color).

Oh, and let's not forget victims of sexual assault. They should never have to have that burden, and what about the children who will never meet their fathers? How would you feel if you found out you were conceived from rape?

MrSimons 12-23-2015 07:39 PM
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Posted by Ivy (Post 649092)
Second, kids are ****ing expensive. Not to mention this is an 18 year long burden.
No, they are a lifelong burden. I understand you don't want kids but anyone who thinks of a child as something that is no longer your burden when they turn 18 should definitely not be a parent.

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Posted by Ivy (Post 649092)
(like me, for example, but I'm getting my tubes tied the first chance I get :))
also gl, many doctors aren't willing to perform operations like that on younger people, especially not females.

Mangsi 12-23-2015 07:41 PM
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Posted by Ivy (Post 649092)
Abortions aren't a problem at all in society.
First of all, not everyone is suited for children (like me, for example, but I'm getting my tubes tied the first chance I get :))

Second, kids are ****ing expensive. Not to mention they're an 18 (or more) year long burden.

Additionally, There's already more than enough kids in the system that may never be adopted, and adopting a child is a long and difficult process, especially for POC (people of color).

Oh, and let's not forget victims of sexual assault. They should never have to have that burden, and what about the children who will never meet their fathers? How would you feel if you found out you were conceived from rape?
This is so true, most spread rep.


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