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MrSimons 06-29-2017 01:53 AM

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Posted by Crono (Post 788340)
gonna take a shot in the dark and say drugs are a lot more common in high schools today than 15 years ago

Thats something I think would be good to see actual stats for, cause I know some old ****s who talk about partying hard back in their younger days, and it just being easier to get away with. Also education on drugs is getting significantly better, with stuff like D.A.R.E going away/getting replaced with more sensible education, and most people realizing the war on drugs is ridiculous (most conservatives I know are beginning to lean towards it being a huge waste of money that could better be invested in actually educating people on the risks that come with taking drugs).

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Posted by 5hift (Post 788341)
Well two things in particular strike me as the main problem with public education.

1. The kids. Travel to the inner cities and the kids there are ****ed up. Why they're like that is another topic for another day but just know if the kids aren't willing to accept education then what the **** is even the point of giving them education?

2. Funding. The overall facilities and faculty in inner cities are leagues below more wealthy areas. So to add to the already reluctant students, you have dilapidated conditions that make the learning experience even more unappealing.

As for the effect of self righteousness, I feel a lot of kids nowadays like to blame the problems on other things rather than make up for it themselves. Going back to the kids in inner cities; there are constantly opportunities to better the community that just aren't taken. Hell, they have free education, albeit not very good at times but if you try your hardest can make anything work.

Kinda curious if thats a problem with this generation; there has always been parts of the population that aren't interested in education; my mother missed a ton of school to stay back and work on the farm.

I imagine a problem being more along the lines of too much focus being put on education, and not enough on literally anything else. When I was in highschool there was really no guidance for anything other than going to college; and I know when my wife was in highschool not going to college was just not an option.

This ****s over everyone who realizes higher education isn't for them.

TomatoPanda 06-29-2017 03:27 AM

I feel like jobs like being a doctor or lawyer are gonna be payed little one day and the non college jobs gonna be where the money at lol to many leaders not enough slaves.

MrSimons 06-29-2017 04:37 AM

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Posted by TomatoPanda (Post 788386)
I feel like jobs like being a doctor or lawyer are gonna be payed little one day and the non college jobs gonna be where the money at lol to many leaders not enough slaves.

That's already true, most lawyers don't make very good money for the insane amount of work they do; and depending on where you work in the medical field you may or may not make good money, thats not to mention the ridiculous amount of college expenses you rack up.

Whereas I could make six figures without no degree working on an oil rig, thats not to mention the many high demand trade jobs that pay really well.

Sardon 06-29-2017 04:38 AM

Most teens have no ****ing clue what to do
They find themselves taking useless classes after highschool because highschool never helped narrow down their options.

Ethacon 06-29-2017 04:57 AM

The person who is the main reason we are here now calls himself Daddy and works on Avalonia.

Unless thats not the same person.

Harriskar 06-29-2017 09:31 PM

Humans

Basi 07-01-2017 10:47 PM

heroin

Perseus 07-02-2017 04:12 AM

A lack of respect for authority. We need more *** woopin's

CM 07-02-2017 06:58 AM

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Posted by MisterFace (Post 788828)
In my eyes, terrorism. All jokes aside, its bad that England is just letting them happen. Ive got hope that trump might do something more, since he already has.

What does this have to do with teenagers

Saeed 07-02-2017 02:31 PM

Smoking inside the schools. It's obviously illegal in all schools but, people still smoke in smart places where teachers can't see you. When I was in school, a lot of people used to go to the back of the field (inside the school) and smoke normal cigarettes&weed. After lunchtime finishes they distract othere in class (the ones who smokes weed) They also lose focus too which effect their education. Althought smoking is banned inside the school, there is nothing stopping anyone from smoking inside the school. They should be more strict to be honest, spread the teachers around at luchtime and ACTUALLY check the CCTV they have placed. Most of the people who fails at school are smokers, this problem is so underestimated. They fail school, they're most likely gonna fail at life so, they will join gangs to earn money or they will just relay on the government. Making a rule is useless if you're not going to make sure this rule isn't going to be broken.

Paddie 07-02-2017 02:57 PM

A good education is the only solution to all social problems. The education we receive from our family will determine our way of thinking and the way for us to conduct ourselves. Also It is time to stop being offensive and learn to be a proper human being.

Don't matter what pretext terrorists may use for their deeds, terrorism has no justification. You lose your right to live when you kill a person. Obviously they are persons with mental health problems and need help.

5hift 07-03-2017 03:09 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 788361)
Kinda curious if thats a problem with this generation; there has always been parts of the population that aren't interested in education; my mother missed a ton of school to stay back and work on the farm.

I imagine a problem being more along the lines of too much focus being put on education, and not enough on literally anything else. When I was in highschool there was really no guidance for anything other than going to college; and I know when my wife was in highschool not going to college was just not an option.

This ****s over everyone who realizes higher education isn't for them.

You actually bring up a valid point.

In today's society most people are encouraged to get into a good college to become a doctor or banker or something but not enough focus is placed on going to trade school for specialized jobs like technicians, contractors, and farmers.

We have to break the stigma around the blue-collar jobs and show people that they don't have to shoot for some fancy white-collar job to be successful in life.

Because those jobs are truly important and without them things would be pretty rough.

Areo 07-03-2017 05:17 AM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 788941)
Because those jobs are truly important and without them things would be pretty rough.

Karl Marx was known, in part, for his idea that the most important work in today's society is done by the people payed the least, and vice versa. To elaborate on that, if all of our farmers decided to quit farming we would basically collapse as a society. Whereas if all of our stock brokers decided to quit how much worse off would we really be?... it's an interesting concept.

On-topic; Many of these issues (listed ITT) are intertwined immensely and to say that one is worse than another is just based on what you, personally, have been dealt in life. I don't imagine many of those are the actual answer to this.

Are drugs an issue? Yes, but what is more important than then the drugs themselves is why. Why are they using them? What is to gain? That is a much more important answer than just picking a drug and saying it's the issue.

Elk's thought, not having enough time for yourself, is something that I can agree with and see the logic behind it. But I don't think it's not having enough time. I think that we don't actually want time for self reflection right now. Many of our choices are not even really made by us (for example, when someone mentioned that going to college has become a must... most people don't choose to go to college for themsleves, they go because "that's what you do". The choice is made for them). Many of our choices are like this. That being, we didn't reach that conclusion ourselves and are just following what society and other people tell us to do.
I would argue that we don't want the time to reflect on these kinds of events and decisions, so we try and ignore it by distracting ourselves with YouTube, fidget spinners, ect. That works, to a point, to help us avoid examining our choices. This allergic reaction to self-reflection is a root cause of a lot of what has been said in this thread, I would imagine.
But this is not just a problem for this current generation, it's been a problem for a long time now. Avoiding choices has been a norm of human interactions for a long time now.

But, to be fair, if I had to pick a problem that is specifically tailored to my generation, it is our ability to hide in our intellectual safe-spaces of people who agree with us. I find it almost repulsive that we can't actually have legitimate political conversations because of this. I honestly think being overly ingrained in any belief to be a bad thing, and this issue is only getting worse. Now I can even make my news display only ________ political opinions. People hold onto their beliefs like hell, and now that we can hide ourselves from the other side we don't even need to know how to defend our beliefs... after all, in my safe space no one will ask me to explain why I feel the way I do.

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Posted by Saeed (Post 788871)
post above

Not to single you out, but what you're saying is a perfect example of what I said above... you're saying that smoking itself is the issue, and it is not. If you had a magical wand that could remove smoking from the world we wouldn't be any better off than before. If the underlying causes still exist they'll just move onto some other addictive or destructive habit...

MrSimons 07-03-2017 06:18 AM

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Posted by Saeed (Post 788871)
Smoking inside the schools. It's obviously illegal in all schools but, people still smoke in smart places where teachers can't see you. When I was in school, a lot of people used to go to the back of the field (inside the school) and smoke normal cigarettes&weed. After lunchtime finishes they distract othere in class (the ones who smokes weed) They also lose focus too which effect their education. Althought smoking is banned inside the school, there is nothing stopping anyone from smoking inside the school. They should be more strict to be honest, spread the teachers around at luchtime and ACTUALLY check the CCTV they have placed. Most of the people who fails at school are smokers, this problem is so underestimated. They fail school, they're most likely gonna fail at life so, they will join gangs to earn money or they will just relay on the government. Making a rule is useless if you're not going to make sure this rule isn't going to be broken.

That was a problem when your parents were in school too; not necessarily specific to this generation lol.

HamStarr 07-03-2017 05:57 PM

Egotisim, greed, lust, blissfulness, naivety...

Also, furries.


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