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may.oreo 11-24-2017 04:21 PM

See if you ask me the only reason alumni superteams keep winning so much is cuz u guys are too stupid to merge to make your own superteams (cavaliers, OKC etc to deal with golden state) but rather continue to just hold grudges on people or do your own thing and then complain cuz they keep winning.

Convict 11-24-2017 05:32 PM

Alumni superteams are very skilled but they can be beaten, I mean Sith(Aserus going ham)beat the mixed side, but idev still reigns undefeated. There probably is a team of certain individuals to have a better chance to beat 7ives if specific people made a team together. All depends tbh. As of now they are still undefeated though.

Thallen 11-24-2017 07:13 PM

never thought that the replies to this thread could get more troll than the OP

Nanner 11-24-2017 07:21 PM

Quote:

Posted by Convict (Post 802097)
There probably is a team of certain individuals to have a better chance to beat 7ives if specific people made a team together..

I agree and someone should stop them

Zetectic 11-24-2017 07:56 PM

tbh thallen, just un-retire alumni and dominate gst again for next 3-4 years. won't be long till fp4 pms you "it's time to stop" *gives alumni a special trophy room*

Thallen 11-24-2017 09:27 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 802106)
tbh thallen, just un-retire alumni

i'd do it any time if the guild wanted me to, but i think it's more chill to give others their chance to lead after achieving the goal alumni was created for
shaheen, sarah, david, dante, blaze, fulgore, and eko all led their own teams sometime before or after alumni was RIP

after a while, the satisfaction of winning goes away and the goal becomes to just not lose (not that enjoyable)

McCullough 11-24-2017 09:36 PM

I thought it was strange at first, seeing no other guild than Alumni winning first place year after year. "Surely there must be another guild capable winning first place." I thought. It made me realise how small the spar/gst community is, but it was still suspicious, nonetheless, especially with how many people take advantage of laggers/delayers on every team nowadays.

may.oreo 11-24-2017 09:50 PM

Has anyone heard from austin koga since he lost firstround again? I think he finally did it

DoubleliftGraal 11-24-2017 10:02 PM

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Posted by McCullough (Post 802112)
I thought it was strange at first, seeing no other guild than Alumni winning first place year after year. "Surely there must be another guild capable winning first place." I thought. It made me realise how small the spar/gst community is, but it was still suspicious, nonetheless, especially with how many people take advantage of laggers/delayers on every team nowadays.

The spar community isnt exactly small. The people that were supposedly better than Thallen are gone.

Additionally 90% of sparrers are mentally challenged in some aspects that they are unable to form the right teams to actually try to win gst. And other sparrers couldnt even place because of that same reason.

I can only name a few that had a fully formed team but could simply just not beat Alumni (SLX, GTEAM, maybe Agilis but they existed for less than 6 months).

Whoever did say that some ARE CAPABLE of winning gst just by forming the right teams; i completely agree with whoever said that

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Posted by Convict (Post 802085)


I know from a standpoint in the spar community that Alumni is definitely respected, it might not show as much as it did before. But I hear how people talk about Alumni as a whole. A lot of people are scared to face alumni in brackets in Gst, I myself have even said so. Trust me there is respect, it's just not really in a mutual way as much if that makes sense. People seeing Alumni/7ives as a threat=respect in a different way. It's just hard for most people in the spar community to admit who the more skilled are because sparers are so competitive and that's how it always will be because spar is an competitive activity. Alumni will always be respected, even if Alumni dies, they have ruled this game and will be respected as Uncommon Society is.

After reading this, I think that what Blaze wants is not respect but subjugation lol.

Darkk 11-24-2017 10:10 PM

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Posted by Nanner (Post 802102)
I agree and someone should stop them

Imo we are the best 5/5 idevices so that alone is difficult to beat, hence why we are undefeated. Not to mention that we spar well together

Too many teams are coring people who provide zero team support or are prone to going 0-6. Having a nice ratio is irrelevant if you sit back and watch your team get 5v4ed in favour of 7ives.

A team that would challenge us imo: Kicko, Fro, Phural, Noss and Mex/Luna

Red 11-24-2017 10:19 PM

Where were u when Westbrok was kill
I was at my computer eating tost
Phone ring
"Westbrok is kil by jimbo"
"No surprise"

may.oreo 11-24-2017 10:31 PM

Gst news report:
After losing to nai(Sith) in gst and losing nem to thallen, Red is finally pushed over the edge and begins posting unintelligible forum posts. I mean seriously what the hell is this dude saying lol. Im guessing its something about sith or cigarettes cuz otherwise google translate isnt working for “******” language rn.

DoubleliftGraal 11-24-2017 11:55 PM

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Posted by may.oreo (Post 802121)
Gst news report:
After losing to nai(Sith) in gst and losing nem to thallen, Red is finally pushed over the edge and begins posting unintelligible forum posts. I mean seriously what the hell is this dude saying lol. Im guessing its something about sith or cigarettes cuz otherwise google translate isnt working for “******” language rn.

Is westbrook still on your account or are you scarchaos now?

McCullough 11-25-2017 02:39 AM

@DoubleLiftGraal

Unfortunately, I don't GS. I've never had a team and I can't imagine how difficult it would be to try and accomplish a win at this time. I don't have many friends on graal that don't already have teams and other guilds that they practice with. The kind of understanding of how someone plays and how players cooperate together while sparring is what it all comes down to. Let me elaborate.

MLG players at live competitions all sit together, and they communicate while they play. Players in a GST can't really communicate. Typing would be foolish, and I've never seen a team and its members just 'know' what to do in some situations. I don't know how GST strategies and tactics go, it all seems like teams play super defensively and hitting someone is mostly just a fluke.

I thought I heard something about how Alumni members were all able to communicate during the GST rounds, hence their consistency and fluidity throughout. I'd need conformation from an Alumni member, though.

Teamwork is a huge thing in GST. I hear stuff about "making a wall" or whatever. I don't really know what you mean by making "the right team", because that could mean a number of things: player attitude, how they support in a round, how they spar in general, etc. Something with Alumni is they just had the whole round under control. Each player of Alumni just knew when to switch targets and knew when to help another player or players.

I don't know if all of them just simply have it figured out or if they're communicating all the time, but when I watch other guilds spar it kind of seems like an 'every man for himself' kind of spar with the occasional gank or whatever.

I've seen other guilds with nearly the same thing and same fluidity.

I just need an in-depth explanation to why some teams just don't work. Even if the guilds all have exceptional players.

DoubleliftGraal 11-25-2017 04:03 AM

Quote:

Posted by McCullough (Post 802133)
@DoubleLiftGraal

Unfortunately, I don't GS. I've never had a team and I can't imagine how difficult it would be to try and accomplish a win at this time. I don't have many friends on graal that don't already have teams and other guilds that they practice with. The kind of understanding of how someone plays and how players cooperate together while sparring is what it all comes down to. Let me elaborate.

MLG players at live competitions all sit together, and they communicate while they play. Players in a GST can't really communicate. Typing would be foolish, and I've never seen a team and its members just 'know' what to do in some situations. I don't know how GST strategies and tactics go, it all seems like teams play super defensively and hitting someone is mostly just a fluke.

I thought I heard something about how Alumni members were all able to communicate during the GST rounds, hence their consistency and fluidity throughout. I'd need conformation from an Alumni member, though.

Teamwork is a huge thing in GST. I hear stuff about "making a wall" or whatever. I don't really know what you mean by making "the right team", because that could mean a number of things: player attitude, how they support in a round, how they spar in general, etc. Something with Alumni is they just had the whole round under control. Each player of Alumni just knew when to switch targets and knew when to help another player or players.

I don't know if all of them just simply have it figured out or if they're communicating all the time, but when I watch other guilds spar it kind of seems like an 'every man for himself' kind of spar with the occasional gank or whatever.

I've seen other guilds with nearly the same thing and same fluidity.

I just need an in-depth explanation to why some teams just don't work. Even if the guilds all have exceptional players.

Some people use discord to communicate and they speak and say *** "Hey go defense, dont hit him blah blah blah"
Some people choose never to practice, and yes attitude does play into the gst and a player with bad attitude could affect the gst performance of team.

Sometimes, even a really good team can be counterproductive. Because idk how exactly to structure my thoughts but when you begin a gst round, you must "Make a wall" as in making a LINE vertically, horizontally, diagonally, or even make a half-circle where you surround the people. But sometimes the wall can break and you need POSITIONS. If people are FULLY offense or defense, that can be a detriment to the team and even the apparently pro team could end up losing round 1(Goodfellas).

Most if not all of Alumni members are well rounded and thus win gst very easily(in addition to the idevices' delay and the mixed's pure skills, reflexes, etc). There are some well rounded people in this game aside from Alumni kids but considering the intelligence of this community(Extremely low), people choose low tier sparrers over high tier, probably either based on Thallen's stupid spar tier list which they find to be 100% accurate or their personal whims and instincts which are no more intelligent than that of a rock.


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