Torture is not equal to execution.

Also a death penalty would not scare off a potential shooter especially if it was televised; take columbine as an example. In regards to the china situation I think you should consider what the means to achieving that actually entitle.

They interviewed one of the students who was in the school during the shooting and she said that she wasn’t even surprised or shocked, and that she felt like something was eventually going to happen there. That’s so chilling to think about because as someone who goes to a fairly large and well known public school only about 15 minutes away from LA, I would not be shocked if something were to ever happen here.

btw leave it to someone like thallen to come onto this thread to state his opinion like it’s the only one that matters and then not give any input or offer any solutions to this issue, then make some weird stereotypical comment about liberals because “look at me I’m conservative” or whatever. talk like that gets us nowhere and unfortunately it’s people like him who run this country, meaning nothing will ever change. I’m sure there are plenty of people here who would be willing to discuss solutions and possibilities since there is clearly no single solution, but I also think there are people here who just aren’t capable of that. so thallen do us all a favor and keep your promise by staying out of this thread.

Thanks to those who are trying to look over the possibilities though, I don’t think a complete ban on guns will do anything but I definitely think we do need stricter regulations and standards for the purchasing and circulation of guns. I’m very much against the idea of arming teachers however, I think that is counterproductive and idk how I’d feel about showing up to school everyday knowing my teachers have weapons on them at all times.

China is a terrible example for how democratic nations should govern their people.

I don't agree with everything that China has im just saying they have a death penalty if you get caught with drugs and it seems to be working and it would prob work for america as well just my opinion.

Making executions and torturings public is both disgusting and barbaric. This is how Stalin and many third-world leaders maintain power. By using fear and terror. These methods are usually used to keep people in place yes, but it also shows the government is weak and unable to keep their people in check because of other internal problems. Do we really want to be classed with those countries? Probably not.

I think I lost brain cells reading some of these posts.

I totes agree with you. Banning gun won't change a thing, especially with almost everyone in the United States owning a gun. Even if federal lawmakers debated over gun banning, they'd have to bypass the 2nd amendment and everyone would buy a gun in the meantime. Even without the previous statement, the amount of people with guns in the United States compared to law enforcement is just 2 much to handle for law enforcement.

I'm not a liberal but if being reasonable means I can't be conservative then I'll just have to switch my political afilliation I guess.

If you honestly think that someone who deals weed deserves the same level of punishment as a mass murderer then your morality is seriously corrupt.

We all gonna die someday who cares

All I'm saying is that people who shoot up schools deserve to get the death sentence if they take multiple innocent lives cant we take one guilty life?

If you were gonna make a blatant troll post you could of at least made it funny.

Who cares if it's Barbaric? The person literally went into a school and shot up a school. It wouldn't make the government weak, Just would mean our methods are different. Hell we even torture and waterbomb and do other things to terrorist, Some of which never successfully killed someone so we get information out of them. If you shot up schools and take people's innocent lives for no real good reason. Setting an example with public torture would probably teach people that this is what they would get it they caused such a terrible crime. People wouldnt need to live in fear, Unless they plan to shoot up schools. Though it isn't legal to torture people on America's ground. It can be taken out of America to do so.

This marks the 4th school shooting in America this week.

It's not about the punishment fitting the crime, it's about it fitting the morals of the punish-er. Being tally-ho for public execution shows you are no better than them. The reason they hanged outlaws in the wild west is because it was cheaper than lining them up and shooting them, and the citizens of ye olde' days didn't really take kindly to some ruffian stealing **** they absolutely needed to survive. Nowadays we have more effective means of execution, and still we reserve them for capital offenses.

It's stupid to compare the punisher to the person who done the act. Their motives are completely different. You're literally saying the U.S government is terrible because they'd be punishing someone who killed innocent children for no real good reason. I don't know why we live in such a soft generation of people who think that just because you ******* killed several kids with a shot gun that you shouldn't get some serious punishment for that. Or that the government would be weak for wanting to do such. Or how wanting the people who want them to face punishments they deserve makes the people just as bad somehow?

I mean seriously why is our generation so damn soft that people are willing to let someone who done such a crime not get the punishment they deserve? All because apparently such methods only spread fear and terror....which is kinda the entire ****** point. Why would you not want people who could cause shootings in school and kill people not to be absolutely too terrified to do it? Are we apparently supposed to just allow school shooters feel pride in such a thing?

I just skimmed through what Perseus wrote, I don't disagree with it. Anything brutal, including affects on their family (like North Korea) would actually work, but there's no real good solutions for open-free country like U.S.

Some of you're saying the problem are people themselves. while it is true, their easy access to the guns are the actual problem. every one of us have some way or the other have issues. you can't ever satisfy us all, that's why we're going after the weapon first.