killman was last on 1146 days ago = 3 years
watching my old vids on youtube, 3 years ago i had 550-600 spar record lolol
i mean what do u expect from us. it was time when 1000-300 is pretty much impossible for most people at that time.

but i do agree with u on him getting worshipped.

sweet, I'm finally in GTEAM :shy:

also @ the Killman thing, people drool over dead/gone/inactive sparrers like they do anything else in the world
pretty sure the majority of Japanese sparrers are beloved just because of the Momento Mori thing, which was a cool achievment but doesn't immortalize them all as amazing sparrers or anything

If Northern Sign won the first GST then Doublelift mysteriously quit Graal afterwards, people would be throwing his name around as a TRU SPAR GOD
people should be more concerned with achievements that actually show consistency and longevity, that's what really proves something

that being said, people like Ryo, Acqua, Shiden, etc. had/have really good attitudes so I understand why people like them
my favorite Japanese sparrer was some dude named "iLL" who used the default brown-haired girl head

= neojenova case?

most overrated is KH(ventrue)

nah, noss is not underrated or overrated. he has a few people saying he's a great sparrer but it definitely balances out with the people that say he sucks. he's in the middle.

i think shiden is most underrated thats active

I don't think Shiden's most underrated that's active but I agree he is underrated

i don't agree with this either. he used to be really underrated and i got him into US and sage because i liked him so much and nobody knew who he was. but recently i keep seeing people talking about him when listing good sparrers. also, he just won his first gst so that definitely gave him more of the recognition he deserves.

This thread is just sad in my opinion... Why does what people think matter so much? "He said I suck... But u is a speed heckler so u sucks tooo.... and no offenze... but u lossed ur series 10000-0 kid..." I feel like these threads having to do with the reputations of sparrers start out decent, but they're turning into all-out arguments.

Alumni full of fhk boys. Yall grown af & all you guys do is play & complain when somebody beat yall. SLX is so different lmfao we respect others, not just friends. Most of us are grown & have jobs with lives. We dont do this petty "blaim people for hacking" bullcrap. If they do it, let em do it. They doing the time if they get caught, not you? Stay in yo fhkn lane man. I dont hack & if you wanna talk shyt. series me, SIMPLE as that.

LOL

whats so funny?

You're telling me slx are grown ups? first thing I highlighted shows how mature they are :).

it's always started by someone mentioning something completely off-topic because their fragile emotions get the best of them
opinions are just too much for some people to handle

it devolves from "___ is underrated" to "___ said I hack" to this deranged gibberish in the post YD made up there
at that point, the thread is past the point of salvation and is better off being closed



Shiden gets asked to join guilds all the time, Shadz is by far the most underrated right now IMO
probably looks like a bandwagon opinion since he just won a GST, but I was talking to him and his brother about how good they were long before then

tell me whats more mature, someone speaking there mind or someone falsely accusing someone of hacking because they lose?

depends how immature the person is ;)

thats true aha didnt think of that

Those 2 were the same in this particular scenario. Except it wasn't solely because of a loss or something stupid like that.

but it was :)

Dante/Colossus is just suspicious about YD. YD stated that he doesn't cheat. No need to talk, they are gonna series man to man (both agreed) and will be recorded.

@ Maturity part. It's depends. For this particular part, I'd kinda be pissed and make post about it. But won't call out Alumni the whole guild.
YD is still my brotha. I feel him tho. Hope this gets solved soon.

Gibberish? Sorry I cant curse without it getting censored? �� I know how to talk properly, just cant with dumbasses like you guys. I say I dont hack yet he still hasnt apologized for making false accusations towards me. I got respect for 3 alumni players & thats because they dont sit here & complain like the rest. And whoever it was that laughed at my post about SLX being more mature, **** you. You dont see OUR guys talking **** towards NOBODY else. Being mature goes out the window once you cross a line with me, and half of who has posted; already has.

Red anibu, how you going to tell me im immature when you ran up to me & called me a speedhacker with 0 prove. Just comes to show how childish you are. Who even are you? Ive never heard of you in my entire life to even call me immature.

Idc what anyone says sparring isn't even a skill anymore, it's just a case of where you live now! At the moment french people and pinoy probably close maybe toping them by now are winning.
Cause if I'm being honest most of you, I can't hit you straight up and end up spending 1.0 minimum of my health just to figure out the delay on my screen. If I was to go back to 2 years ago, I made a secret account to mess with people and got a 5-1 record on it without boosting or selective sparring. Now, I can't even spar for **** on dev cause the server is so bad. Talk about spar when it actual is spar again not when matchups are decided by where you live.

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I saw a guy named The Flash, He ran like 2X faster than a Horse that ate 5 bushes.

Shots fired.

Just chill,most of us know in our hearts that you don't hack or anything...you just have something..idk lag I think.(which is probably fine.)

Learn to adapt. I am pinoy, so you better be clear on what you are saying because not all french and pinoy players lag unless they live in their respective countries since the servers are in Tx. If you cant figure out how to counter an enemy delay, you arent a real sparrer then. A lot of international players will play Graal and you cant stop them just because they lag. The only thing I disapprove of regarding your issue are the sparrers that dont even try sparring.. Especially the type of sparrers who lazily wall spars and know that people who dont wanna waste time will recklessly run to them and get punished. Thats the only type of sparrers I feel should find something else to do other than ruining the fun of 'Sparring'.

OK, continue on to the real point for this thread to make sure it wont get closed.. Who are underrated sparrers?

Lol you really are stupid, I said "speeder!!111!!!" generally when someone puts 1's and lots of !'s that means they are implying sarcasm :).

That was me, also you're really mistaken with the slx don't talk "sh1t" about anyone part :P.

on topic:

this

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guy

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John cena sama

Who even are you? Ive never heard of you in my entire life to even call me immature.[/QUOTE]

lmao

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so apparently not knowing him means I can't call him immature!

Two of the first few friends I made on this game were Deus and Shadz we were even in our own little noobie spar guild together. It's refreshing to see that they are developing and improving whilst obtaining the respect and publicity they deserve...It's long overdue.

Back on topic:

I think Male,Jagger and T3CK are under-rated 1v1 sparrers.

Nobody mentions Kevin91. He's easily the best all time iDevice sparrer.

lmao[/QUOTE]

I'm not trying to be offensive or rude but...I wanted to ask you the same question.

I agree. He's a very good iDevice sparrer.

bro are you tryin to pick a fight!?! when i was in my prime i beat the dude in a series. this argument has been over for a long time.

@ whole argument about hacking, shut up and talk about it in the game, don't need you raging really hard on here and spewing out bad language left and right. if someone accuses you of hacking and you completely explode on the forums, it's just going to make me think you do hack because of how immature you seem here.

continue on with the purpose of the thread, this has been a decent thread so far with the exception of the hacking argument.

have never even seen shadz spar honestly.

Calm down my son, you do it too...

I'm not trying to be offensive or rude but...I wanted to ask you the same question.[/QUOTE]
wick dont get me started

*cough* LIVID IS UNDERRATED *cough*

Yeah I agree with whoever said this ^

Apparently Robitussin is underrated too.
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http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...?t=144&page=11

Here's some quotes from the above thread.


The spar community has always been filled with obsessive tryhard haters that are quick to raise questions about other players especially when they beat them. Rarely can one sparer give another sparer credit for skills unless they're friends. That will never change.


Also, no matter how long these dinosaurs have been playing, doesn't mean they can accurately tell if someone is legit cheating.




GOAT being GOAT: Look at most of the US maggots hardkore hating on kevin on the thread I posted :D:P.

yeah i forgot about those d00ds. they are the beast.

i saw shadz spar in da streak room. he was owning some good players.
he improved a lot from the last time i was gsing in belle against him. prolly better than me now.

kuz will lelelelelellee

T3CK is very under-rated because he doesn't GS. But 1v1 sparring he is really good same thing for Male he's a beast 1v1 sparrer. In the lists of good sparrers nobody ever brings up Jagger but in fact he is rlly rlly good.

I also think Bull, Papi and KicKo are under-rated too. I do not wish to discredit people like Tykian and PKay but KicKo was the MVP for NS GST when they won the GST. Papi has improved a lot and people just judge him by his score but he's way better than that. Bull is really really good doe and nobody ever speaks about him.


Also what will i do to mikva? I'm kinda confused. Did I miss something?!

leave me alone dont harm me

Uhhhhh, Demrow w/ all the **** about Thallen?

Whats funny is the other day SLX's guild news was "The only 2 real guilds on this game are SLX and Alumni"

Male and Jagger under-rated? No, they are just old sparrers that most people have forgotten about.

well, despite my dislike for some people in that guild, that is entirely true - at least for "spar guilds"
I think the whole thing with entering the GST with like 3 different guilds sometimes is kind of stupid, but at least they stick together as a group

underrated GSers = MK, Dontae, Cookie (sometimes)

I only respect them because of that, the fact they they don't abandon each other is kinda cool however they won't admit to the fact that no one thinks their cool and everyone see's them as old news.

Yeah cause matching uniforms classifies you as a real guild lol..