That's exactly what happened, and from my experience many people tend to be enthusiastic about this obsession to the point where if you disagree with the war machine & money, and see more creative approaches & critical analysis—you are viewed as a troll & no longer lovable to mainstream society.

If you believe this you need a drastic wake-up call.

Honestly if something isn't done about ISIS right now the world will ****ing regret it, IMO trump is the kind of person who will say enough is enough.

His intentions aren't bad at all US media is just so cancerous and extremely one sided, they all love to mark him as some evil ****ing bastard when all he wants to do is solve this problem.

As I've said before, I'm Australian and all these syrian, iraq and other middle eastern migrants flock to our country. They illegally board planes head to Malaysia (where its perfectly safe for them) and then proceed to illegally board a boat and head to Australia.

I'm sick and tired of our government being scared of any sort of criticism, they let these people in and let them live off of tax payers money, they give these people houses, apartments and payed flats. These people never have to work a single day in their life again and its bull****, there are struggling families our there who can't put food on the table for their children and its a disgrace.

Anyone in this thread trying to justify ISIS' behavior should join ISIS and reolocate to the caliphate so the powerhouse militaries of the world may eventually have the pleasure of leaving the remnants of your brains splattered on the wall of whatever foxhole you'll be hiding in

Sorry but I value my relationship with God, and while I don't justify ISIS' behavior, I call bull**** on this idea that killing thousands of innocents in NY to blackmail Islam and bombing Baghdad and killing thousands of innocents, then dragging a war out for 15 years puts you in any place to be telling people you know what justice is. Also, government approved media isn't a source of justice; in fact, thousands of American and Israeli soldiers have secretly tortured innocent Muslims. Don't think so? You don't know human nature

Let's face it everyone. The world is coming to an end.

Afghanistan proves his point. Technically they could if they didn't care about extinguishing every person in Afghanistan. It's hard to kill them when they can easily blend in with the civilians.


This is not a refuge problem. The problem is your government. Don't take it out on people that happen to live in a ****ty place and don't want to die.



I expect more from you. I don't think anyone is trying to justify what ISIS is doing. It's like that saying goes "there's 3 parts to every story, your side, my side , and the truth" It's not only important to know what they're doing, but also why. You can't find the solution if you don't know what the problem is.





I like this part. I'm currently doing some testing on some people(over the net of-course, not some lab). It's amazing how you can turn people into feces with some emoticons :D

Trump is great tbh, just really, really stupid sometimes.

So then I'm correct, as you just stated. We can do it, but like Thallen said we have to abide by a set of rules, so instead we won't do it. I never argued against the second part.

Typing that is literally trying to justify it. You're essentially saying, "But you don't know why they're shooting innocent American civilians."

I do know why... because the Quran specifically instructs them to kill non-believers, and ISIS are probably the most devout of all Muslims. Religion in general is a cancer to the world, but the turmoil in the Middle East is a testament to what Islam has achieved. Nothing, other than senseless violence and justification for primitive laws against women.

"There have been Christian terrorists as well!" Horrible argument. If I were to put some hick and a man in a turban beside each other and asked anyone on the planet who is more likely to be the one to bomb or shoot up innocent people, don't even try to pretend like you don't know which one would be pointed at. That's not an issue of racism or hatred either, that's called reality. One bad apple doesn't spoil the whole tree, but too many bad apples and it's time to dig it up by the roots.

If Islam is so good, like Muslim-Americans keep insisting, then the rest of the Middle East should be the ones fighting ISIS and reclaiming the reputation of their religion.

This all entirely untrue, and propaganda; also, the Old Testament & other belief systems orchestrate others to kill non-believers—and this believe you are taking out of context is being up-played by the media & others to rally specifically more hatred against the middle east. If you're going to open your mouth about people's spirituality & pretend to be an expert, at least walk the path of enlightenment first and study every religion, read the Quran and the Bible, as well as the Bhagavad Gita. You really have no idea what you are talking about; and calling religion a cancer, then why are you not on here criticizing Israel? Because your media refuses to ever suggest such an idea? Everyone around you is indoctrinated? Oh, yes—it's much easier to go with the flow on hatred than to actually resist, keep an open mind, and figure things out.

Wow. Okay, this is specifically hate speech. Put a black & a white man in front of wealthy white America, and ask them who is more likely to kill. Oh, yes, let's all now begin targeting blacks. You know nothing about Islam, and your words really gave me one of the grossest vibes I have ever felt.

I believe people like you are "a cancer to the world" and pretty sure you underlined that point yourself more than once already, tyvm.

Technically you're correct. But when applied to reality you're wrong. There's other reasons why they're not going to do that besides killing innocent people. Doing such a thing will definitely have consequences that are not worth it to the US government. But that's another argument in itself.


I'm not actually arguing ISIS vs US let alone trying to justify them. I was pointing out what I felt needed clarification from your post. You said that the US should do all this to show their might that would also prevent billions being wasted. I said that the US was part of the reason why ISIS was able to become what they are today.


Maybe some people are desperate. Maybe they don't want to go to Australia to be a burden and disturb OG's 1st world way of life. Maybe they're stuck in a bad situation because the citizens of other countries don't want their government to spend money. What is the worse you would do if your son/daughter was sick and starving(Hard to answer when you don't have kids yet, but look back on it when you do)? You have no problem wiping out the middle east, so I can only imagine what you would do for a daughter/son.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/isis-d...180356055.html




I don't know about the rest of the world, but if you were to ask me that question I would answer it like this:
I will pick the hick as the guy that would shoot up innocent people (happen many times here)
I will pick a world power as the one to bomb
My pick for the turban guy would be for suicide bomber
(why? because that's how our brains work until we learn how to think. Anybody is capable of doing anything if pushed hard enough)


Stereotyping is not reality. Should we kill every white male in America to stop mass shootings? That's right boys, white people going crazy up in this beeash. Should poor white people adopt African-American kids because they will make it to the NBA or the NFL?



They're going to reclaim their reputation by creating more death?




Man I've been trying to get people to do that since I started posting on this forum, but nah I'm just a troll. Thinking is such a beautiful thing when done correctly.

0 because the bowl is poisoned and my body cannot afford 10,000 MMs

Duh I would eat the 10 poisoned ones. Sacrificing a ****** to save 9,999 people is not the first time it happens in human history.

As hard it is for most of you to believe, I'm not a Colin/******, but even the swag/cool rep needs to take a hit sometimes in order to deliver the joke

You're in complete denial if you refuse to allow your brain to accept statistical facts... I don't know what to tell you. If "X is statistically more likely to commit Y crime than Z" is hate speech to you, you're way too sensitive.

Do you think it's hateful to make statements that can be proven through data? Like, "blacks are more likely to commit violent crimes against blacks" or "whites are more likely to commit financial crimes?" I can't imagine how reality is so triggering... It's a simple fact that Muslims are more likely than any other religion to kill innocent people.

Very good analogy, even down to the fact that Americans are fat and so sensitive to the idea of temporarily putting a pause on Syrian immigrants!

Uh, no. You are believing a lie you've been told, heard over and over by government media, and perpetuated by a subservient public. Muslims are not more likely to kill innocent people, and I have no interest in arguing with you anymore about this right now.

Well, explain to me where you get your sources from. You read everything in the news, on the internet, etc. You don't experience all of this. Using the "you're brainwashed by the media" card at every turn really makes no sense. Literally everything other than real-world experience is a form of media.

I don't even have to Google sources on this, because I think it's pretty clear that the Middle East is in shambles due Sharia law and problems caused by Islam in general, but I think the simple fact that a Wikipedia article about Islam is result #2 on Google for the term "violence by religion" says a lot:
http://puu.sh/m5fsR/ca093a8409.png

And scrolling down even further:
http://puu.sh/m5g1A/343769ff4f.png

I'm not even looking for information about Islam... I'm searching for statistics about religious violence, yet every single result mentions Islam? So, either everyone on the planet is brainwashed except for you and other sympathizers, or Islam is extremely violent.

Cue theory that Google is a pro-Christian corporation that hides the true statistics of religious violence deep under these articles about violence in Islam?

Google & Facebook are owned by American/Israeli conglomerates, and the Internet search results are commonly sorted both by popularity, but also government intervention of course (i.e. mainstream media influenced sheep). I am unsure why you think that posing Google as God to me, or American/Judeo-Israeli government media & all of their cronies has anything to do with reality. I see things from a global perspective

10 poisoned m&m spreads and it becomes 100 the very next day.

I think at this point you should start ignoring Conquest's posts in this thread if you want to have reasonable discussion.

If I can basically predict what you're going to say, I guess I have nothing further to discuss...

Anyway, the best candidate is Bernie Sanders. I'd take Ted Cruz if a Republican was forced upon me. I'd still vote for Trump over Clinton.

Rep system is ******ed.

Ah, yes, you say something psychotic—now I'm a tired broken radio. Grow up dude; you address nothing anyone says, you just ramble on and on with hatred. I've addressed every single one of your points and actually said something about it. If you can predict what I am going to say, it's because you're repeating yourself; keep your ****ing shadow, I don't want it

Careful, that's what the government wants you to think my friend. Don't become a brainwashed sheep! They're EVERYWHERE!

Sorry, but this cooky little conspiracy nut you think you're projecting on me is a tired stereotype and has nothing to do with me. I simply know what marketing, entertainment, and "news" is; there's an endless pool of agendas to pick from if you look hard enough, and your "mainstream" media is a powerful source of bias brainwashing. I don't find it to be any different than the millions of "Christians" who spend billions of dollars trying to push the "creationism" theory; you sound like the nut who wants to tell me evolution isn't true, but the garden of Eden is.

The difference is M&Ms aren't people. Who would have thought? That is one of the worst analogies I have seen regarding this whole thing.

reference please.

*They are.Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean they arn't.

Let me ask you something,how many times have you visited Middle East?If the answer is none...you are not allowed to talk about what kind of laws they abide or what is their lifestyle because you do not know about it.They live more pompously than any American which clearly voids the "sharia law" if you want to stick to that.

He's referencing verses in the Quran that refer to war; the context is that Archangel Gabriel instructed Muhammed in the ways of the truth to share to the people, and he was being resisted—even violently. As my own experiences with speaking with Archangel Gabriel, I can tell you that it isn't easy to share this purpose with others; I've been accused, abused, lied to, humiliated, and asked to be someone and something different than what I am.

In other words, Muhammed's soul was being sacrificed by the Meccans, and various verses, not unlike you find in the Bible, describe orders to kill any of the pagans, idolaters, atheists, etc. who were rejecting the Holy Spirit's sovereignty in the war.

I still don't know if he's being serious or just a big time troll.

No, I'm being serious.

These verses point towards certain events actually.It doesn't say that you can just go super sayin and start a kill streak of non-muslims.Muhammad PBUH was told to kill those non-muslims that would disturb them or tease them in any way possible.In other words,self defence.Later it was also said that if they ask for forgiveness,Muhammad PBUH was bound to give it to them.


Whatever Kuz said was also correct even tho he deleted it.That's why you are a piece of ****,Kuz **** <3

Except for how his fiscal plans are all pretty bad and rely on taxing the 1%.

You asked this in the ISIS thread... About 5 people quoted multiple instances in the Quran where it is mentioned. You answered one and then overlooked the rest. I'm not going to be your personal Google.

I'd expect someone living in the Middle East to think they can tell someone else what they are or aren't "allowed" to talk about. That's not how it works in America or on things created by Americans though.

The "you've never visited here so you can't know anything" logic is absolutely terrible. No one in this thread lived in Nazi Germany and I'm pretty sure almost everyone can give a pretty good description of what conditions were like, having assumed they've taken a World History class or studied up for an hour on the internet.
I don't need to live in Syria to see how my country is being affected or to know about the thousands of innocent people being killed.



I think no matter what, someone is going to get screwed when it comes to re-balancing the budget. If 1% of the population can do more than the 99% in the first place, and they'll still be able to feed their kids and live a lavish life, I think they should take the Trump approach and embrace it a bit. I think many of them are paying in the 0-10% bracket range anyway, it's gotta be higher than that. As a self-employed, single white male I'm paying over 30% and it sucks.

Neither he is being ******ed

It's easy to gang up on Antago because he takes things to the extreme, but there is truth to what he says is if you bring it down like 10 notches. Like the influence on media and how it tries to get you to think what they want(brainwashing to an extent).




Now analyze this sequence here and tell me Antago is wrong.




What Thallen wants to say is that Muslims are more likely kill for their religion/religion reasons than any other religion. That's what he wants to say, but the way he's wording his post they're saying something else. Killing and killing for religion have different stats. Antago is answering to what he's reading. Think about it

1.I answered like 4 or 5.Since there were way too many mentioned there so i possibly couldn't translate each one for you.I even asked if i should continue but no one asked.

2.Conquest,i'll throw that to you to answer.

Them "thousands of innocent people being killed" are muslims themselves and are stuck in countries like Syria where their life is at risk everyday.

But yeah the problem is Islam according to you even though there are just over 1.6bn muslims in the world and around 1.6bn of these have never commited terrorist acts...

[insert quote from Old Testament to argue against Thallen's argument of barbaric verses in the Koran here]


Too many posts for me to find argument but I think MBK you said why countries like America intervene in the War in the east....Bro UK,USA,France etc. are all being directly threatened and there have been instances where ISIS attacks have occurred here you can't possibly expect the West to just sit back and let ISIS continue killing people in our own countries.

That'd be a great argument if there were dozens of Christian terrorist organizations that terrorize the world on a weekly basis...
"The Christians had the Crusades in 1095, what's the difference?" I dunno, 1000 years worth of time to modernize?

I also never said "Muslims are the problem," but Islam is clearly a problem. If you argue against that then you must be a big supporter of intolerance, abuse against women and homosexuals, routine beheadings, etc. Just about every religion comes with glaring flaws, but Islam has gotta be at the top of that list.
18,000+ confirmed terrorist acts credited in the name of Islam in the past 10 years from this religion of peace, solid.

But dude,those countries started to invade them first.You destroyed their home and now you owe them one.

What's the difference?

MERRY STUMPMASS

Donald Trump is my favourite banter lad.

umm no thallen u see the quran is never wrong and our interpretation of islam is the right one and theirs is wrong so we are real muslims the rest are not real we are the real ones not them ok?

remember the other interpretations are wrong but not ours

Only naive leftists hate Trump, big surprise. America needs a strong leader and he's the best candidate by far. Our youth and feeble minded are fed leftist propaganda left and right by the media. Trump is not a racist at all, have you seen his debates and not just snippets on your twitter newsfeed? Thank God they can't vote yet.

Look at the mass rape incident in Cologne, Germany by hordes of muslim refugees. America doesn't need these savages trust me. Their morals and ideals are the exact polar opposite of Western ones our ancestors fought and died for. The way they treat women and gay people is backwards and importing them brings Western society a real threat.

I had a pretty good laugh reading this, thank ya.

I see trump more as a meme as a president

Pretty much confirmed after his first political TV ad.

Nice arguments. You wouldn't be laughing if your mother, sister, or daughter were at the end of these despicable crimes.

The refugees should instead of invading Europe, stand up and fight for their own country like our ancestors did in WW2. Letting millions of them in is nothing short of cultural suicide because they outbreed whites (birth more kids per family) and it's been shown their integration doesn't just simply work.

Making fun of Trump's "funny hair" instead of looking at the facts, listen to what he's saying and give counterarguments, shows how girly, politically correct, and easily influenced by mainstream media narrative anti-trump lefties truly are.

He's the best chance at making America great again. We're simply doomed with Bernie or Hillary running. They don't have what it's got to be a real leader. Look at what Trump has accomplished.

Preach brotha

We the white people of the world cannot let these Muslims outbreed us in our own "land'




Another thing about being fed propaganda:
When you saw his first campaign ad and saw all those "Mexicans" running towards the USA did you jump and screamed "God darnit we need a wool to keep dem Mexikans out of our country?"

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...nts-southern-/