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5hift 03-17-2016 02:12 AM
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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 685230)
What dangers?
Well first of all smoking anything is bad for your lungs, period.

Second of all, weed is a depressant, same as alcohol so it slows the brain down.

The "mellow" effect is basically akin to being somewhat drunk so what do you think is going to happen of somebody high on weed tries to do something that requires precision and concentration like driving?

Look, all I'm saying is a drug is a drug.

Drugs by definition will have some sort of unnatural effect on the body and mind and that unnatural effect can easily disrupt what is natural.

Distorted_P2P 03-17-2016 02:14 AM
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Posted by TWIZ (Post 685233)
A mental illness? So in other words an illness created by your own mind?

You have extremely flawed logic
Can't reply to that.

That was the original reason I turned down anti-depressants though, I suppose after being told I had it my mind fabricated it.

So yeah.

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Posted by 5hift (Post 685236)
Well first of all smoking anything is bad for your lungs, period.

Second of all, weed is a depressant, same as alcohol so it slows the brain down.

The "mellow" effect is basically akin to being somewhat drunk so what do you think is going to happen of somebody high on weed tries to do something that requires precision and concentration like driving?
Marijuana smoke isn't bad for your lungs, it doesn't contain the same chemicals as tobacco which harm you.

I have stated that I don't believe in smoking and driving though, so I'll agree with the rest of your post.

Yog 03-17-2016 02:14 AM
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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 685237)
That was the original reason I turned down anti-depressants though, I suppose after being told I had it my mind fabricated it.
I'm on anti-depressants again, and I was on them a few years ago, and I can say without a doubt that they can be far less dangerous than marijuana. Although I am for legalization of it.

Distorted_P2P 03-17-2016 02:16 AM
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Posted by Yog (Post 685239)
I'm on anti-depressants again, and I was on them a few years ago, and I can say without a doubt that they can be far less dangerous than marijuana. Although I am for legalization of it.
When I say dangerous I mean psychically. They're insanely bad for you.

"Common Side Effects of Antidepressants

Antidepressants can sometimes cause a wide range of unpleasant side effects, including:

nausea
increased appetite and weight gain
loss of sexual desire and other sexual problems, such as erectile dysfunction and decreased orgasm
fatigue and drowsiness
insomnia
dry mouth
blurred vision
constipation
dizziness
agitation
irritability
anxiety"

http://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-a...ntidepressants

5hift 03-17-2016 02:18 AM
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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 685237)
Marijuana smoke isn't bad for your lungs, it doesn't contain the same chemicals as tobacco which harm you.
Horse****, marijuana smoke is just as bad as smoking cigs. There are 33 cancer causing chemicals in weed so you tell me what exactly isn't bad for your lungs. The THC has slight anti-tumor properties but that can't possibly compensate for the amount of tar weed deposits in your lungs.

Yog 03-17-2016 02:19 AM
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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 685241)
"Common Side Effects of Antidepressants

Antidepressants can sometimes cause a wide range of unpleasant side effects, including:

nausea
increased appetite and weight gain
loss of sexual desire and other sexual problems, such as erectile dysfunction and decreased orgasm
fatigue and drowsiness
insomnia
dry mouth
blurred vision
constipation
dizziness
agitation
irritability
anxiety"
And I get none of these. Thank god my mouth isn't dry. That would be worse than me lying in ****ing bed all day without motivation to do literally anything.

Distorted_P2P 03-17-2016 02:21 AM
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Posted by 5hift (Post 685243)
Horse****, marijuana smoke is just as bad as smoking cigs. There are 33 cancer causing chemicals in weed so you tell me what exactly isn't bad for your lungs.

Not to mention the amount of tar weed smoke deposits in your lungs is also 4 times as much from regular cigs.
Okay, say you're right. Say I just drop smoking entirely and just eat it.

But I know around ten people who have been smoking daily for like 50 years and haven't accumulated any health problems as a result of it.

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Posted by Yog (Post 685245)
And I get none of these. Thank god my mouth isn't dry. That would be worse than me lying in ****ing bed all day without motivation to do literally anything.
Not to mention random muscle spasms, imagine that happening to you while you're driving and you swerve and crash.

Maybe YOU shouldn't drive.

5hift 03-17-2016 02:22 AM
That's borderline impossible.

Smoking anything will definitely have negative effects on your lungs.

Distorted_P2P 03-17-2016 02:23 AM
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Posted by 5hift (Post 685248)
That's borderline impossible.

Smoking anything will definitely have negative effects on your lungs.
Tell that to Chong. A guy who's been smoking for like three times the time you've been living, more weed than we can even imagine. Where's his Cancer?

CM 03-17-2016 02:24 AM
Distorted, while your passion for marijuana is appreciated, I think you're speaking with your heart instead of your brain. If marijuana was such a good thing, it would've been legalized by now, no? Please stop trying to convince us that marijuana causes no mental or physical health problems and doesn't lead to things like depression, car crashes, or lung cancer, because it does.

And also, really with the suicide joke? You can't expect for people to take you seriously in a discussion if you are talking like a middle schooler.

Please try and listen to people's opinions rather than just trying to convince them that you are completely right and that they are completely wrong.

5hift 03-17-2016 02:24 AM
Didn't say it would necessarily cause cancer but the effects of bad lung health will definitely be there.

Not every cigarette smoker gets cancer but the chances are there.

Distorted_P2P 03-17-2016 02:25 AM
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Posted by CM (Post 685250)
Distorted, while your passion for marijuana is appreciated, I think you're speaking with your heart instead of your brain. If marijuana was such a good thing, it would've been legalized by now. Please stop trying to convince us that marijuana causes no mental or physical health problems and doesn't lead to things like depression and car crashes, because it does.

And also, really with the suicide joke? You can't expect for people to take you seriously in a discussion of you are talking like a middle schooler.
It was actually legalized where I live. There's a dispensary fairly close to my house.

Not sure which joke you're referring to.

Colin 03-17-2016 02:25 AM
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Posted by Colin (Post 685235)
For my buddy Distorted with the A+ suicide joke

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publicatio...acts/marijuana

i) These extracts can deliver extremely large amounts of THC to users, and their use has sent some people to the emergency room. Another danger is in preparing these extracts, which usually involves butane (lighter fluid). A number of people who have used butane to make extracts at home have caused fires and explosions and have been seriously burned.

ii) Marijuana overactivates parts of the brain that contain the highest number of these receptors. This causes the "high" that users feel. Other effects include:

altered senses (for example, seeing brighter colors)
altered sense of time
changes in mood
impaired body movement
difficulty with thinking and problem-solving
impaired memory

iii) Marijuana also affects brain development. When marijuana users begin using as teenagers, the drug may reduce thinking, memory, and learning functions and affect how the brain builds connections between the areas necessary for these functions

Breathing problems. Marijuana smoke irritates the lungs, and frequent marijuana smokers can have the same breathing problems that tobacco smokers have. These problems include daily cough and phlegm, more frequent lung illness, and a higher risk of lung infections. Researchers still do not know whether marijuana smokers have a higher risk for lung cancer.

Long-term marijuana use has been linked to mental illness in some users, such as:

temporary hallucinations—sensations and images that seem real though they are not
temporary paranoia—extreme and unreasonable distrust of others
worsening symptoms in patients with schizophrenia (a severe mental disorder with symptoms such as hallucinations, paranoia, and disorganized thinking)
Marijuana use has also been linked to other mental health problems, such as:

depression
anxiety
suicidal thoughts among teens
I found another interesting fact on this government website.

"Is marijuana addictive?

Contrary to common belief, marijuana can be addictive. Research suggests that about 1 in 11 users becomes addicted to marijuana (Anthony, 1994; Lopez-Quintero 2011).This number increases among those who start as teens (to about 17 percent, or 1 in 6) (Anthony, 2006) and among people who use marijuana daily (to 25-50 percent) (Hall & Pacula, 2003)."

Why didn't you reply to this :(

Also, he is referring to your "I wouldn't intentionally hurt myself" "Apparently it's in your genes'

Distorted_P2P 03-17-2016 02:27 AM
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Posted by 5hift (Post 685251)
Didn't say it would necessarily cause cancer but the effects of bad lung health will definitely be there.

Not every cigarette smoker gets cancer but the chances are there.
I'm a fairly good swimmer, I can do like two laps without breathing, and I'm a very consistent smoker.

Explain that.

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Posted by Colin (Post 685253)
I found another interesting fact on this government website.

"Is marijuana addictive?

Contrary to common belief, marijuana can be addictive. Research suggests that about 1 in 11 users becomes addicted to marijuana (Anthony, 1994; Lopez-Quintero 2011).This number increases among those who start as teens (to about 17 percent, or 1 in 6) (Anthony, 2006) and among people who use marijuana daily (to 25-50 percent) (Hall & Pacula, 2003)."

Why didn't you reply to this :(
I didn't see it.

Like we discussed above though, it's not a physical dependence. People enjoy it so much they become dependent on it, something that can be avoided by simply not doing it if you don't want to consistently continue it.

CM 03-17-2016 02:28 AM
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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 685252)
It was actually legalized where I live. There's a dispensary fairly close to my house.
Legalized, as in all of the states of America. Again, if it was such a good thing, it would be allowed everywhere here.

Nanner 03-17-2016 02:28 AM
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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 685219)
why would I willingly put something into my body without doing research on it as to how it works and what it does, you don't think I put a **** ton of research into it before I tried it? Man I was a timid kid, [B]I wouldn't intentionally hurt myself.
Exactly. I hate when people I know in real life call me stupid or that "I'm going to lose my brain cells", "acid stays in ur spine dude", like honestly do research before u start talkin. Lol. But ya everyone should do research before they try, or bash others about it

Distorted_P2P 03-17-2016 02:28 AM
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Posted by CM (Post 685255)
Legalized, as in all of the states of America. Again, if it was such a good thing, it would be allowed everywhere here.
It's in the process of being legalized everywhere as we speak.

CM 03-17-2016 02:29 AM
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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 685257)
It's in the process of being legalized everywhere as we speak.
"In the process of" does not mean I can smoke marijuana in states where it is still illegal.

Distorted_P2P 03-17-2016 02:30 AM
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Posted by CM (Post 685258)
"In the process of" does not mean I can smoke marijuana in states where it is still illegal.
Then go one state over to where it's legal haha.

5hift 03-17-2016 02:30 AM
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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 685254)
I'm a fairly good swimmer, I can do like two laps without breathing, and I'm a very consistent smoker.

Explain that.
Distorted I'm not a ****ing doctor but depending on how long you've been smoking there will be effects.

You may not see it, you may not feel it but its there.

Those who start smoking don't immediately feel the effects and even after some time they may get used to it and not even notice.

GOAT 03-17-2016 02:31 AM
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Posted by 5hift (Post 685251)
Didn't say it would necessarily cause cancer but the effects of bad lung health will definitely be there.

Not every cigarette smoker gets cancer but the chances are there.
I don't know about weed smoke causing damage to your lungs. Is there like a study or something where it has been tested.


I'm guessing the reason cigarette smoke is different is because of all the chemicals.


Might be wrong, but I don't think weed smoke causes lung damage.

Colin 03-17-2016 02:31 AM
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Posted by Its_Nanner (Post 685256)
Exactly. I hate when people I know in real life call me stupid or that "I'm going to lose my brain cells", "acid stays in ur spine dude", like honestly do research before u start talkin. Lol. But ya everyone should do research before they try, or bash others about it
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Posted by Colin (Post 685235)
https://www.drugabuse.gov/publicatio...acts/marijuana



iii) Marijuana also affects brain development. When marijuana users begin using as teenagers, the drug may reduce thinking, memory, and learning functions and affect how the brain builds connections between the areas necessary for these functions
Well I did mine, did you??

Nanner 03-17-2016 02:31 AM
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Posted by TWIZ (Post 685200)
Aside from the jibber jabber about how one might obtain weed, I ask one simple question --

Why smoke in the first place?
I always told myself as a kid I would never do drugs, never smoke weed especially. And since high school, a lot of people do it and I did a lot of research and found out it's actually not nearly as harmful or bad for u as your parents may make it seem. And bein high is for me, just like being really happy, laughing a lot, and just feeling good about life.

I still have NEVER taken one hit of a ciggarette or any sort of tobacco product. I know my limits and to not put harmful stuff into my body. (Even tho weed can be laced), but I still consider myself a smart druggie who knows what he's doin.

Distorted_P2P 03-17-2016 02:33 AM
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Posted by 5hift (Post 685260)
Distorted I'm not a ****ing doctor but depending on how long you've been smoking there will be effects.

You may not see it, you may not feel it but its there.

Those who start smoking don't immediately feel the effects and even after some time they may get used to it and not even notice.
If I'll never see or feel the effects then I don't give a ****.

Also my doctor actually prescribed it to me.

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Posted by Colin (Post 685262)
Well I did mine, did you??
For every page you find that says it hurts you we could find a thousand that says contrary. Do you really want to do that with us?

5hift 03-17-2016 02:33 AM
I do believe the effects take longer to develop since people who smoke weed don't smoke it as much or as consistently as people who smoke cigarettes do.

Distorted_P2P 03-17-2016 02:34 AM
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Posted by GOAT (Post 685261)
I don't know about weed smoke causing damage to your lungs. Is there like a study or something where it has been tested.


I'm guessing the reason cigarette smoke is different is because of all the chemicals.


Might be wrong, but I don't think weed smoke causes lung damage.
The study that said it hurt your lungs was performed on monkeys and they were only provided Marijuana smoke and deprived of oxygen.

As far as I know.

5hift 03-17-2016 02:34 AM
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Posted by GOAT (Post 685261)
I don't know about weed smoke causing damage to your lungs. Is there like a study or something where it has been tested.


I'm guessing the reason cigarette smoke is different is because of all the chemicals.


Might be wrong, but I don't think weed smoke causes lung damage.
GOAT, smoking anything will have some effect on your lungs.

Anything that isn't air will have an effect on your lungs and then your body.

Distorted_P2P 03-17-2016 02:34 AM
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Posted by 5hift (Post 685265)
I do believe the effects take longer to develop since people who smoke weed don't smoke it as much or as consistently as people who smoke cigarettes do.
Well I know plenty of people who have lived longer than I hope to consistently smoking marijuana, and are perfectly healthy.

Nanner 03-17-2016 02:36 AM
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Posted by Colin (Post 685262)
Well I did mine, did you??
Confused what ur talking about?

5hift 03-17-2016 02:36 AM
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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 685268)
Well I know plenty of people who have lived longer than I hope to consistently smoking marijuana, and are perfectly healthy.
Right, well do whatever you want. I honestly didn't care to begin with.

Just know nothing has "no negative effects". If there was do you think weed would even be illegal to begin with?

Distorted_P2P 03-17-2016 02:36 AM
Chong is 77 years old and has been smoking his entire life.

Also has lived a full life.


Please explain his huge medical problems to me.

TWIZ 03-17-2016 02:36 AM
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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 685237)
Can't reply to that.

That was the original reason I turned down anti-depressants though, I suppose after being told I had it my mind fabricated it.

So yeah.



Marijuana smoke isn't bad for your lungs, it doesn't contain the same chemicals as tobacco which harm you.

I have stated that I don't believe in smoking and driving though, so I'll agree with the rest of your post.
Have you heard of a video game addiction? I sure hope so, because that's a mental dependency, for the record.

There is evidence that depression is not only genetic, but an evolutionary phenomena as well, hence why it occurs roughly at the same age for younger individuals, but recurring for some, simply because genes aren't exactly perfect, when considering epigenetics, etc.

The best way to deal with depression isn't to inhale chemicals to somehow "compensate" for the chemical imbalance associated with depression by providing a temporary satisfaction, and the same goes for antidepressants.

If it is in fact evolutionary, therefore genetic, then it's a phenomena that has likely been going for thousands, if not tens of thousands of years, most likely when religion started playing a role in understanding of the universe (probably around 30-40 thousand years ago), also when neanderthals and our own species were in conflict, or the novel theory that we were banging each other resulting in our own dna being scarred with a bit of neanderthal dna.

Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection is typically thought of as physical, but could it perhaps be a mental process as well? It would be an evolutionary advantage to not only understand how the universe works (depression is associated with the need to understand and results in some sort of acceptance), but to also survive, if you will, the state of being depressed.

In conclusion, the best way to "treat" depression would be to receive communicative help, but I'm not a social psychologist or neurologist, and I don't think you are either. Then again, this is a philosophical discussion, after all.

Nanner 03-17-2016 02:37 AM
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Posted by 5hift (Post 685267)
GOAT, smoking anything will have some effect on your lungs.

Anything that isn't air will have an effect on your lungs and then your body.
It doesn't have to be smoked. Say it's eatin???? So is it still bad for u?

Distorted_P2P 03-17-2016 02:37 AM
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Posted by 5hift (Post 685271)
Right, well do whatever you want. I honestly didn't care to begin with.

Just know nothing has "no negative effects". If there was do you think weed would even be illegal to begin with?
Yes because there were flawed experiments that construed it as harmful.

5hift 03-17-2016 02:38 AM
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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 685272)
Chong is 77 years old and has been smoking his entire life.

Also has lived a full life.


Please explain his huge medical problems to me.
Distorted that is ****ing ******ed.

You want me to diagnose somebody that I have literally never met, seen or heard about and take your word that he is "healthy".

Stop, I just don't care.

Distorted_P2P 03-17-2016 02:39 AM
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Posted by TWIZ (Post 685273)
Have you heard of a video game addiction? I sure hope so, because that's a mental dependency, for the record.

There is evidence that depression is not only genetic, but an evolutionary phenomena as well, hence why it occurs roughly at the same age for younger individuals, but recurring for some, simply because genes aren't exactly perfect, when considering epigenetics, etc.

The best way to deal with depression isn't to inhale chemicals to somehow "compensate" for the chemical imbalance associated with depression by providing a temporary satisfaction, and the same goes for antidepressants.

If it is in fact evolutionary, therefore genetic, then it's a phenomena that has likely been going for thousands, if not tens of thousands of years, most likely when religion started playing a role in understanding of the universe (probably around 30-40 thousand years ago), also when neanderthals and our own species were in conflict, or the novel theory that we were banging each other resulting in our own dna being scarred with a bit of neanderthal dna.

Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection is typically thought of as physical, but could it perhaps be a mental process as well? It would be an evolutionary advantage to not only understand how the universe works (depression is associated with the need to understand and results in some sort of acceptance), but to also survive, if you will, the state of being depressed.

In conclusion, the best way to "treat" depression would be to receive communicative help, but I'm not a social psychologist or neurologist, and I don't think you are either. Then again, this is a philosophical discussion, after all.
My doctor prescribed me Marijuana for my depression, I'll take a trained professional's word over yours any day.

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Posted by 5hift (Post 685277)
Distorted that is ****ing ******ed.

You want me to diagnose somebody that I have literally never met, seen or heard about and take your word that he is "healthy".

Stop, I just don't care.
Take ten ****ing seconds then and look it up you lazy ****. Goddamn.

5hift 03-17-2016 02:42 AM
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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 685278)
Take ten ****ing seconds then and look it up you lazy ****. Goddamn.
That's not the ****ing point.

I'm not a doctor. I can't physically prove anything you or he says about his health yet you want me to believe that he's perfectly healthy.

I don't just take everyone's word for it, ok?

You could just say that my disease ridden dog is healthy but I'm obviously not going to believe you.

Yog 03-17-2016 02:43 AM
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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 685278)
My doctor prescribed me Marijuana for my depression, I'll take a trained professional's word over yours any day.
My Doctor prescribed me anti-depressants for my depression, I'll take a trained professional's word over yours any day.

Distorted_P2P 03-17-2016 02:44 AM
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Posted by 5hift (Post 685283)
That's not the ****ing point.

I'm not a doctor. I can't physically prove anything you or he says about his health yet you want me to believe that he's perfectly healthy.
He is perfectly healthy. 77 is very close to the age I'd prefer to make it to, and he has smoked x30+ the weed I'll ever even see.

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Posted by Yog (Post 685284)
My Doctor prescribed me anti-depressants for my depression, I'll take a trained professional's word over yours any day.
That's probably because you're underage.

Not that they'll prescribe it to you unless you ask about it though.

TWIZ 03-17-2016 02:46 AM
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Posted by Its_Nanner (Post 685263)
I always told myself as a kid I would never do drugs, never smoke weed especially. And since high school, a lot of people do it and I did a lot of research and found out it's actually not nearly as harmful or bad for u as your parents may make it seem. And bein high is for me, just like being really happy, laughing a lot, and just feeling good about life.

I still have NEVER taken one hit of a ciggarette or any sort of tobacco product. I know my limits and to not put harmful stuff into my body. (Even tho weed can be laced), but I still consider myself a smart druggie who knows what he's doin.
I've always rejected any drug (although experiencing DMT at least once is beneficial in my case). The effect you're talking about where you feel happy about life, so long as there aren't any other conflicting factors, is hardly debatable, as it's subjective. That's the exact reason I don't want to do it. We're all on the pursuit of happiness, and my desire for understanding has not only led me to believe that in my case it is illogical to do 99% of the drugs that exist, but that it will not help with my passion to begin with. That's why I have never tried it. I will find happiness on my own means.

Nanner 03-17-2016 02:49 AM
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Posted by TWIZ (Post 685286)
I've always rejected any drug (although experiencing DMT at least once is beneficial in my case). The effect you're talking about where you feel happy about life, so long as there aren't any other conflicting factors, is hardly debatable, as it's subjective. That's the exact reason I don't want to do it. We're all on the pursuit of happiness, and my desire for understanding has not only led me to believe that in my case it is illogical to do 99% of the drugs that exist, but that it will not help with my passion to begin with. That's why I have never tried it. I will find happiness on my own means.
Not in any way encouraging u or others to take drugs. But I have done some research and some drugs that are reletivly safe are:
-Weed
-Shrooms
-LSD
-DMT
-Salvia

These are all my drugs that I will only stick to. I'm sure I'll end up trying Molly or coke once in my life if some hot babe wants me to rail it off her @$$ but that's a whole diff situation and excuse xd

Distorted_P2P 03-17-2016 02:51 AM
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Posted by Its_Nanner (Post 685287)
Not in any way encouraging u or others to take drugs. But I have done some research and some drugs that are reletivly safe are:
-Weed
-Shrooms
-LSD
-DMT
-Salvia

These are all my drugs that I will only stick to. I'm sure I'll end up trying Molly or coke once in my life if some hot babe wants me to rail it off her @$$ but that's a whole diff situation and excuse xd
I agree with some of the **** you say, but honestly dude. Sativa is ****ing horrible for you, DMT, LSD, and partially shrooms are all also terrible...

Yog 03-17-2016 02:52 AM
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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 685285)
That's probably because you're underage.
No sir.

Mind if I ask what state you live in though?

Distorted_P2P 03-17-2016 02:53 AM
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Posted by Its_Nanner (Post 685287)
Not in any way encouraging u or others to take drugs. But I have done some research and some drugs that are reletivly safe are:
-Weed
-Shrooms
-LSD
-DMT
-Salvia

These are all my drugs that I will only stick to. I'm sure I'll end up trying Molly or coke once in my life if some hot babe wants me to rail it off her @$$ but that's a whole diff situation and excuse xd
My friend from school had the same mindset as you, he was very intelligent as well. One day he got offered coke, did it, all I'll say is coke is definitely a gateway drug. You do it once and you're constantly looking for a high that matches it, he's never been the same.

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Posted by Yog (Post 685291)
No sir.

Mind if I ask what state you live in though?
Michigan.

TWIZ 03-17-2016 02:53 AM
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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 685278)
My doctor prescribed me Marijuana for my depression, I'll take a trained professional's word over yours any day.



Take ten ****ing seconds then and look it up you lazy ****. Goddamn.
Oh please. I know I'm not a doctor, and I also know this is a philosophical discussion, but most of the crap nowadays is regulated by the corporate illuminati. The doctor diagnoses the illness, but it isn't like they're able to prescribe any damn drug in the book based on their opinion on what's viable.

I know your counterargument: "that's my point, they prescribe what has been proven to work." Is that why they prescribe a highly addictive methamphetamine to ADHD patients?

GenoIndeed 03-17-2016 02:53 AM
Something that needs to be addressed more directly is the weed itself. Weed is a mental drug, it affects every person differently. And, weed is group into three categories, sativa (makes you more alert and possibly more focused, for example Chemdawg and Haze), indica (relaxes your body, basically a depressant, such as Grandaddy Purp and Northern Lights), and Hybrid (basically in between the other two but can lean to one side more, you're not full of energy but you're not tired either, an example is O.G. Kush). Now within those 3 gruops, all of those strains will have a different effect on you, even if they're in the same groups because the vary in strength. With that being said, and thr fact that its a psychological drug, which affects you mentally, physically, and emotionally, some people can handle a certain strain while others can't. All that needs to be taken into consideration when legalizing it, for example, driving while high usually isn't a good idea, but if you get high off a strain you haven't done before then try to drive, you're taking a major risk. When I used to smoke, I made that mistake one time, and as someone who only smoked sativa and hybrid strains (i don't like indica) and only smoked the best kush (I considered myself a cannibus connoisseur), Haze kicked my butt, made me really disoriented and I still had to drive home, made it back safely tho. But, with all that being said, I haven't even mentioned what someone would use to get high; joints, blunts, pipes, bongs, edibles, vapes all will change how the strain you have affects you. I'm for legalization, but i think having a license for it is a considerable option.

TWIZ 03-17-2016 02:55 AM
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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 685289)
I agree with some of the **** you say, but honestly dude. Sativa is ****ing horrible for you, DMT, LSD, and partially shrooms are all also terrible...
The ability to handle DMT is pretty much purely psychological.

Nanner 03-17-2016 02:58 AM
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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 685289)
I agree with some of the **** you say, but honestly dude. Sativa is ****ing horrible for you, DMT, LSD, and partially shrooms are all also terrible...
I wouldn't mind reading some articles showing proof or valid evidence stating any of the drugs I listed above are bad or can cause health problems :). LSD and shrooms specifically(the only 2 psychedelics I've tried) are forsure not bad for your health. I did a hell of a lot of research. DMT and salvia I should do some more research, but I did research on them a bit and I know no bad health affects have been found from DMT.

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Posted by TWIZ (Post 685296)
The ability to handle DMT is pretty much purely psychological.
You can not "handle" DMT. if u take a solid rip of that stuff, you will be off your ass in a matter of 10 seconds for about 5 minutes.

Distorted_P2P 03-17-2016 03:00 AM
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Posted by Its_Nanner (Post 685300)
I wouldn't mind reading some articles showing proof or valid evidence stating any of the drugs I listed above are bad or can cause health problems :). LSD and shrooms specifically(the only 2 psychedelics I've tried) are forsure not bad for your health. I did a hell of a lot of research. DMT and salvia I should do some more research, but I did research on them a bit and I know no bad health affects have been found from DMT.



You can not "handle" DMT. if u take a solid rip of that stuff, you will be off your ass in a matter of 10 seconds for about 5 minutes.
Shrooms I don't think are that bad if you do them ONCE or possibly twice. But Acid on the other hand, if you can't handle it you could end up killing yourself.

But I've never done acid and don't plan on it so I couldn't say too much on this topic. I'm just going by what my friends say.

Nanner 03-17-2016 03:06 AM
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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 685303)
Shrooms I don't think are that bad if you do them ONCE or possibly twice. But Acid on the other hand, if you can't handle it you could end up killing yourself.

But I've never done acid and don't plan on it so I couldn't say too much on this topic. I'm just going by what my friends say.
Your friends are just the typical non-informed people. Taking 1000 hits of I think 100 ug is what is estimated for their to be a CHANCE of a overdose. Still to this day tho, no one has overdosed from LSD and it has no side effects that are found. On the other hand, people can sell you 25i nBome which can be overdosed and causes same effects of LSD. So this is the only thing to be worried about. And there is plenty of ways to prevent yourself from taking nBome compared to real LSD.

Side note: the people that die on psychedelics are just ******s who do stupid **** on them. Just don't be a ****ing ****** and have a trip sitter if ur that ******ed and u will be all good.


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