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Chelterrar 06-25-2016 08:02 PM

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Posted by Skyzer (Post 717666)
Do you?


Like I said. Western countries often have a different sight on stuff then other continents and countries. But that doesn't mean the other countries are wrong and western countries are always right.

Skyzer 06-25-2016 08:02 PM

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Posted by Chelterrar (Post 717668)
Like I said. Western countries often have a different sight on stuff then other continents and countries. But that doesn't mean the other countries are wrong and western countries are always right.

Other countries aren't always right and western countries aren't always wrong?

PigParty 06-25-2016 11:14 PM

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Posted by Chelterrar (Post 717668)
Like I said. Western countries often have a different sight on stuff then other continents and countries. But that doesn't mean the other countries are wrong and western countries are always right.

How does Germany categorize people by race then? Enlighten us.

Germany Survey
1. What is your race? (Select all that apply)
Christian
Banana
Latino
Donald Trump
Orange

Skyzer 06-25-2016 11:22 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 717713)
How does Germany categorize people by race then? Enlighten us.

Germany Survey
1. What is your race? (Select all that apply)
Christian
Banana
Latino
Donald Trump
Orange

The hex value for the background is #F4F4F4. #F4F4F4

Chelterrar 06-26-2016 09:09 AM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 717713)
How does Germany categorize people by race then? Enlighten us.

Germany Survey
1. What is your race? (Select all that apply)
Christian
Banana
Latino
Donald Trump
Orange



Disrespectful as f*ck

No but we only categorize pets and certain plants into races. Everything else is mostly categorized in different species. And there is a lot more like subspecies, blah blah

Thallen 06-26-2016 12:20 PM

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215.json

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{"name":"South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands","code":"GS","signature_count":3338}
http://puu.sh/pGwHW/e8d8d690b5.png

How the hell does a population of 30 account for 3338 signatures?

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{"name":"North Korea","code":"KP","signature_count":24863}
And why the hell is North Korea involved?

G Fatal 06-26-2016 12:36 PM

No other country/people from other countries-even in uk could vote only uk citizens that were on electrical register and registered to actually vote, oh bwt thats for another vote-petition for it that most likely won't happen..even if they have to talk about it in parliament if petition gets certain amount.(Not sure why other countries are allowed to sign the petition though)

Since the results though they're has been lots of joke petitions recently so may also be one? We've had stuff like A Rematch of 1066 battle of hastings because wasn't happy with the result etc ahaha


lol summing up uk involvement in eu -v
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37iHSwA1SwE

Chelterrar 06-26-2016 01:54 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 717875)
No other country/people from other countries-even in uk could vote only uk citizens that were on electrical register and registered to actually vote, oh bwt thats for another vote-petition for it that most likely won't happen..even if they have to talk about it in parliament if petition gets certain amount.(Not sure why other countries are allowed to sign the petition though)

Since the results though they're has been lots of joke petitions recently so may also be one? We've had stuff like A Rematch of 1066 battle of hastings because wasn't happy with the result etc ahaha


lol summing up uk involvement in eu -v
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37iHSwA1SwE



To be talked about in Parliament it needs 100.000 signatures.

On Thursday it had 10.000

On Friday it had 150.000

On Saturday it had 1.000.000

Today it has over 3.000.000

BlazingClapTrap 06-26-2016 05:03 PM

Well me being in Ireland, I'm screwed. Most likely Ireland is gonna try to leave the U.K. YAY WE'RE SCREWED

G Fatal 06-26-2016 05:49 PM

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Posted by Chelterrar (Post 717888)
To be talked about in Parliament it needs 100.000 signatures.

Today it has over 3.000.000

Yeah that just for them to talk about it doesn't necessarily mean that it will happen beside before the voting it was said the result will be final and there is no going back on it. (I think they messed up alot by not making it so final result having to have like a big percentage to one-side for it to have won) End result was like less than a million to side of leave.

Chelterrar 06-26-2016 07:19 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 717943)
Yeah that just for them to talk about it doesn't necessarily mean that it will happen beside before the voting it was said the result will be final and there is no going back on it. (I think they messed up alot by not making it so final result having to have like a big percentage to one-side for it to have won) End result was like less than a million to side of leave.


Let's see. There are still enough reasons for them to stay. Let's see. There are still backdoor options. And I seriously hope they take them ^_^

G Fatal 06-26-2016 08:26 PM

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Posted by Chelterrar (Post 717953)
Let's see. There are still enough reasons for them to stay. Let's see. There are still backdoor options. And I seriously hope they take them ^_^

Oh you're from Germany aha I can see why you'd want that, it'd be better for all EU countries as a whole if we happen to re-do and end up staying but feel that's more wishful thinking for many. - Also depends on who takes David Cameron's place if it's boris then we're out but if someone like jeremy cobyrn then they have great chance for the 2nd referedum(As he wanted to stay in it-although would be major embarassment if ended up leave again) although J C has bit of crisis going on with everyone resigning after he got rid of a guy that was apparently trying to get rid of him lol.

Admiral 06-26-2016 10:18 PM

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Posted by BlazingClapTrap (Post 717936)
Well me being in Ireland, I'm screwed. Most likely Ireland is gonna try to leave the U.K. YAY WE'RE SCREWED

Not sure if troll or not, Ireland isn't in the UK fam ur covered

Sir 06-27-2016 04:54 AM

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Posted by Admiral (Post 717988)
Not sure if troll or not, Ireland isn't in the UK fam ur covered

glad it wasn't just me

this is like Furry worrying about if Texas secedes from the union.

Vendhin 06-27-2016 08:55 AM

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Posted by Admiral (Post 717988)
Not sure if troll or not, Ireland isn't in the UK fam ur covered

I assumed he was referring to Northern Ireland, not the Republic of Ireland- in which case he is in the UK

David 06-29-2016 09:18 AM

There is something very hypocritical in the way that Americans are criticizing the U.K. for defending its national sovereignty and identity when the entire project of American History has been concerned with jealously protecting ours. (for example, we are not a participant in the International Criminal Court, we are the only UN member state who is not a party to the Convention on the Rights of the Child etc etc). Tbt to when we revolted against the British over the principal that one country should not govern another. The USA would never enter into anything even slightly resembling the international political union that is the E.U.

Either way, a revote is a dumb idea because it completely undermines the principle of the democratic process. "We're going to keep petitioning for revotes till we get what we want!"

uh

Sardon 06-29-2016 09:20 AM

dank

Skyzer 06-29-2016 09:47 AM

Most Americans don't care about what happens in Europe. The others can be hypocritical all they want, they don't know any better.

Crono 06-29-2016 10:07 AM

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Posted by Skyzer (Post 718791)
Most Americans don't care about what happens in Europe. The others can be hypocritical all they want, they don't know any better.

thats because, for the most part, americans dont need to.

however, the US is -THE- superpower. most of the world needs to care about what happens in the US.

Chelterrar 06-29-2016 03:06 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 718793)
thats because, for the most part, americans dont need to.

however, the US is -THE- superpower. most of the world needs to care about what happens in the US.


You still didn't wake up? The only thing America has left is it's military and it's big companies and probably it's nuclear weapons. Yet education is horrible and unfair, there are basically no consumer and employee rights, gun laws have failed to be enforced got ages, China is starting to buy more and more companies, the highest depth in human history, and so on. America isn't the superpower it used to be.

Crono 06-29-2016 03:18 PM

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Posted by Chelterrar (Post 718821)
You still didn't wake up? The only thing America has left is it's military and it's big companies and probably it's nuclear weapons. Yet education is horrible and unfair, there are basically no consumer and employee rights, gun laws have failed to be enforced got ages, China is starting to buy more and more companies, the highest depth in human history, and so on. America isn't the superpower it used to be.

america is still THE superpower

not only in strength but culture. look at us. we're communicating in english, we mostly watch american media, we basically only use american social media, and most of the technologies we use are very much so american. food, music, clothes, shows, technologies (computers both in terms of hardware and software development), world issues, etc.

wanna know how i know it's top dog? remember when the US declared its war on terror? afghanistan and iraq? what did the world do? "no plz dont do this murca...pls..."

..

and that's it. the US declared a questionable war across the world and NO ONE could do anything about it. why? because no other nation can actually do ****. no repercussions, no resistance, nothing. just some first-world protests and that's about it. only a top tier superpower could do something like that.

G Fatal 06-29-2016 03:56 PM

Ego much. Like saying North Korea is a superpower because it takes no notice of other countries either.

Crono 06-29-2016 04:10 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 718832)
Ego much. Like saying North Korea is a superpower because it takes no notice of other countries either.

how am i wrong?

G Fatal 06-29-2016 07:23 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 718842)
how am i wrong?

You're not wrong, but they're not the only superpowers in the world whether they make this and that doesn't make a country bigger or better, at end of day sure they may be topdogs in space etc but anyone could still bomb or kill lots of people there.. Money won't stop that.

Crono 06-29-2016 07:34 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 718898)
You're not wrong, but they're not the only superpowers in the world whether they make this and that doesn't make a country bigger or better, at end of day sure they may be topdogs in space etc but anyone could still bomb or kill lots of people there.. Money won't stop that.

i didnt say they were the only superpower, im saying they are the top superpower atm because they are.

SammyPs 06-29-2016 07:49 PM

We left, and it was for the best.

It was getting to the point where it wasn't only the farewell trade party we were in the European Union for. We were starting to get bossed around, and told what to do because of some uncontrolled leaders were in-charge of our country. So we decided to take back what is rightfully ours. Great Britain.

However, leaving the EU will result in failure to travel round Europe freely without a visa.
So making it harder for businesses, and then the pound(£) will eventually drop, as it is already and people who are mad rich, will go mad skint.

As a consultative of a British person myself, i am happy to say i want to leave the EU.

If we stay in the EU. Britain will be overruled by immigrants. And 30-40% of the British/Britain population will be Muslims/polish by the time we come to another decision making.

They also want a European army to form in 2 years if we were to stay, and all young men/women under the age of 25 will have to go away and train to defend their own country. Which most people don't want to do. And have to fight, for what is now not, rightfully there's (anymore).

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Posted by Crono (Post 718825)
america is still THE superpower

not only in strength but culture. look at us. we're communicating in english, we mostly watch american media, we basically only use american social media, and most of the technologies we use are very much so american. food, music, clothes, shows, technologies (computers both in terms of hardware and software development), world issues, etc.

wanna know how i know it's top dog? remember when the US declared its war on terror? afghanistan and iraq? what did the world do? "no plz dont do this murca...pls..."

..

and that's it. the US declared a questionable war across the world and NO ONE could do anything about it. why? because no other nation can actually do ****. no repercussions, no resistance, nothing. just some first-world protests and that's about it. only a top tier superpower could do something like that.

RaCaRaCa the president of USA has the most deadly, explosive, nuclear bombs in the world. And can be activated/shot at in a matter of a hand-print in a box located secretly in the white house somewhere.

Dusty 06-29-2016 08:14 PM

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Posted by SammyPs (Post 718902)
If we stay in the EU. Britain will be overruled by immigrants. And 30-40% of the British/Britain population will be Muslims/polish by the time we come to another decision making.

So?

Crono 06-29-2016 08:22 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 718910)
So?

oh dusty, so innocent and naive~

Thallen 06-29-2016 08:27 PM

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Posted by SammyPs (Post 718902)
If we stay in the EU. Britain will be overruled by immigrants. And 30-40% of the British/Britain population will be Muslims

Ignore anyone who tells you you're "racist" or prejudice when you say that, too... Multiculturalism doesn't mean you aren't allowed to have concerns for what's best for your society. I think it's a joke how everyone who voted Leave is being stereotyped by the media as clueless bigots.

The media (at least in America) seems to also be taking advantage of the obvious, immediate setbacks from this. Of course the British pound was going to drop. Did anyone not expect that if Leave won the vote? That shouldn't come as a surprise or be used to fuel any sort of hysteria... Of course there would be several inconveniences and consequences, I've heard it should take more than two years for Britain to really stabilize economically again.

Vendetta 06-29-2016 08:37 PM

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Posted by SammyPs (Post 718902)
It was getting to the point where it wasn't only the farewell trade party we were in the European Union for. We were starting to get bossed around, and told what to do because of some uncontrolled leaders were in-charge of our country. So we decided to take back what is rightfully ours. Great Britain.

Bossed around? Give examples. The rules that the EU set were for the most part fair and to me seemed smart.

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Posted by SammyPs (Post 718902)
However, leaving the EU will result in failure to travel round Europe freely without a visa.
So making it harder for businesses, and then the pound(£) will eventually drop, as it is already and people who are mad rich, will go mad skint.

And the people who are mad skint will become homeless. This isn't just going to effect the rich, it's going to have a massive impact on everyone.


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Posted by SammyPs (Post 718902)
If we stay in the EU. Britain will be overruled by immigrants. And 30-40% of the British/Britain population will be Muslims/polish by the time we come to another decision making.

Muslims aren't even coming from the EU so let me stop you right there.

But who the **** cares if our country becomes largely populated by immigrants. As long as they speak English and contribute to our country then is there really a problem? Most of them are friendly, educated people coming here to work because they're better off here than in their own country and end up contributing billions to our economy every year. 98% of our country is not built on so we have plenty of room for them.


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Posted by SammyPs (Post 718902)
They also want a European army to form in 2 years if we were to stay, and all young men/women under the age of 25 will have to go away and train to defend their own country. Which most people don't want to do. And have to fight, for what is now not, rightfully there's (anymore).

That is simply not true, where are you getting your facts from??? A European Army is a possibility but hasn't even been properly discussed and there is literally zero chance that "all young men and women under the age of 25 will have to go away and train". Even if it did (which it never would) the UK are in no way obligated to join or partake in it.

G Fatal 06-29-2016 09:54 PM

@Immigration/Migrants comments majority was voting simply because there is vast areas around UK that most of people in the place are actually not even from the uk(obviously not all) and It isn't just that its also because we are overpopulating the UK and majority of people coming over go through places like Turkey/Greece/Germany/France etc just to get to UK as more prospect living here(Sure other countries take some in-but feels like we get big part) and because of this we are destroying large landscapes of nice places just to build more houses.

I work with a big company and like nearly half of people there are polish-Nothing against them, most are really hard workers and speak English so isn't that we just don't want foreigners in UK(of course they'd be one's who are racist and voted for that reason)-but that EU was pretty much bullying us with clauses that our government accepted and we was paying like 100's of millions to eu countries each week while taking in immigrants/migrants. -Even the settlement that they will do will most likely con us off(Doesn't really help with smug Farage trolling EU parliament)


Also On controlling our own laws etc is a great thing for UK there is quite a few laws that have made big companies go bankrupt- I.e The Eu has a ruling that stopped our government being able to rescue businesses even if they could -Closest probably the Steel Works(That may be saved due to voting out now-So yes saves many jobs!)
With leaving the Eu it doesn't necessarily mean we can't still trade with them-they will still need us for sure as we'll need them and money talks..but it also allows the UK into the open market where we can do trading with likes of China/USA etc that some of them we previously couldn't(Not at a large scale anyway)


Personally think are better out of it, it will take us years to get back up but overall I reckon we will come out better for it, while the EU itself will eventually probably end up nomore(Hence why they were all ****ting it-and asking us to stay at first) Only real downfall is the 2/3years that prices will be higher/taxes etc higher but after that the pound will rise up again as it's still strong currency.

Dusty 06-29-2016 10:12 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 718915)
oh dusty, so innocent and naive~

Just as an American who lives in a very diverse area I don't get it. Sounds a bit paranoid, "we want to stop them from coming in or else they'll have a say in things!"

Crono 06-29-2016 10:36 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 718941)
Just as an American who lives in a very diverse area I don't get it. Sounds a bit paranoid, "we want to stop them from coming in or else they'll have a say in things!"

the type of immigration the EU gets is not of the same quality as that of the US. you guys get more skilled labor/educated folks due to immigration laws whereas the EU is getting floods of unskilled people and "refugees" that need to be trained and assimilated. crime and **** is heavily associated with MENA immigration in general here in Europe.

Vendetta 06-29-2016 11:46 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 718936)
@Immigration/Migrants comments majority was voting simply because there is vast areas around UK that most of people in the place are actually not even from the uk(obviously not all) and It isn't just that its also because we are overpopulating the UK and majority of people coming over go through places like Turkey/Greece/Germany/France etc just to get to UK as more prospect living here(Sure other countries take some in-but feels like we get big part) and because of this we are destroying large landscapes of nice places just to build more houses.

There's a lot of immigrants around my area and I don't really see the problem, if anything they're a lot nicer than the English people living in my area.

How are we overpopulating the UK?? As I said only 2% of it is built on. We aren't running out of space anytime soon so we can afford to lose a little land, we're not really destroying "large landscapes".

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 718936)
I work with a big company and like nearly half of people there are polish-Nothing against them, most are really hard workers and speak English so isn't that we just don't want foreigners in UK(of course they'd be one's who are racist and voted for that reason)-but that EU was pretty much bullying us with clauses that our government accepted and we was paying like 100's of millions to eu countries each week while taking in immigrants/migrants. -Even the settlement that they will do will most likely con us off(Doesn't really help with smug Farage trolling EU parliament)

Yes, we're paying millions to the EU for benefits that greatly assist our country and economy. The EU acts as a service, we pay them money and they benefit us in return.

You can consider migrants a negative externality if you don't like them but they contribute billions to our economy every year so they are good for the country as a whole.

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 718936)
Also On controlling our own laws etc is a great thing for UK there is quite a few laws that have made big companies go bankrupt- I.e The Eu has a ruling that stopped our government being able to rescue businesses even if they could -Closest probably the Steel Works(That may be saved due to voting out now-So yes saves many jobs!)
With leaving the Eu it doesn't necessarily mean we can't still trade with them-they will still need us for sure as we'll need them and money talks..but it also allows the UK into the open market where we can do trading with likes of China/USA etc that some of them we previously couldn't(Not at a large scale anyway)

The steel works didn't close down due to the EU. It closed down because we can import steel from places like China for a fraction of the price of the steel here meaning they were making massive losses, leaving the EU isn't going to change that. Even if it saved jobs it won't save as many that are most likely going to be lost if we do go into a recession when we actually leave.

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 718936)
Personally think are better out of it, it will take us years to get back up but overall I reckon we will come out better for it, while the EU itself will eventually probably end up nomore(Hence why they were all ****ting it-and asking us to stay at first) Only real downfall is the 2/3years that prices will be higher/taxes etc higher but after that the pound will rise up again as it's still strong currency.

Of course they didn't want us to leave. Our relationship with the EU is mutually beneficial.

There's way more downfalls than that.
  • You will have less money
  • Economic shock
  • Less jobs, 3 million jobs in the EU are linked with trade between the EU
  • Energy bills will rise
  • Quality of goods and services will most likely decrease
  • Harder to study abroad
  • UK will no longer receive money for things such as university research
  • EU regulation has resulted in the country being far greener than it would have been
  • A lot of British farmers will go out of business with out CAP (Common Agricultural Policy)
  • 73% of our farming exports go to the EU. While it's likely we will negotiate trade deals they won't be as good, the EU aren't going to allow us to have the benefits of the EU without paying a fee
  • Less growth in the economy

Skyzer 06-30-2016 02:40 AM

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Posted by Crono (Post 718825)
america is still THE superpower

not only in strength but culture. look at us. we're communicating in english, we mostly watch american media, we basically only use american social media, and most of the technologies we use are very much so american. food, music, clothes, shows, technologies (computers both in terms of hardware and software development), world issues, etc.

wanna know how i know it's top dog? remember when the US declared its war on terror? afghanistan and iraq? what did the world do? "no plz dont do this murca...pls..."

..

and that's it. the US declared a questionable war across the world and NO ONE could do anything about it. why? because no other nation can actually do ****. no repercussions, no resistance, nothing. just some first-world protests and that's about it. only a top tier superpower could do something like that.


G Fatal 06-30-2016 03:55 PM

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Posted by Vendetta (Post 718973)
How are we overpopulating the UK?? As I said only 2% of it is built on. We aren't running out of space anytime soon so we can afford to lose a little land, we're not really destroying "large landscapes".

Even if it saved jobs it won't save as many that are most likely going to be lost if we do go into a recession when we actually leave.


Of course they didn't want us to leave. Our relationship with the EU is mutually beneficial.

There's way more downfalls than that.
  • You will have less money [For 2/3years bigwow -if you living standard now then you will while this goes on]
  • Less jobs, 3 million jobs in the EU are linked with trade between the EU
  • Quality of goods and services will most likely decrease[Lol really -_-]

How old are you,just wondering? Bwt you say we arn't overpopulating yet Ik lots of people even a couple who are 30 and have a kid yet had to wait 6months to get housing..(Sure they could go private but they'd be paying heck load-to what people earn-probably not worth)

You say less jobs but don't realise we can still trade with EU countries just because we are coming out of it doesn't mean we can not-pretty sure there is a settlement that will happen for that, but we also will be able to trade with China etc at a larger scale that we was allowed to before. UK will have the funds (that we won't be giving into eu etc) o save companies that are on the brink-that they couldn't do in the EU. How will quality of stuff be decreased lmao it'd be exactly the same.


Majority of what you said is going off Uk alone just coming out of eu, not taking into account how this will start to affect the EU itself the pound is worth alot to other currencies(obviously will be down now-because we going into the unknown pretty much) I wouldn't be suprised if another country goes out of EU or it crumble anyway and countries having to revert back to there old currencys(That will be big downfall for all them countries)



Sure few years worth of being less better off than we already was but after that we'll rise again. lol had ton to write but busy atm.

Vendetta 06-30-2016 04:20 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 719193)
How old are you,just wondering? Bwt you say we arn't overpopulating yet Ik lots of people even a couple who are 30 and have a kid yet had to wait 6months to get housing..(Sure they could go private but they'd be paying heck load-to what people earn-probably not worth)

You say less jobs but don't realise we can still trade with EU countries just because we are coming out of it doesn't mean we can not-pretty sure there is a settlement that will happen for that, but we also will be able to trade with China etc at a larger scale that we was allowed to before. UK will have the funds (that we won't be giving into eu etc) o save companies that are on the brink-that they couldn't do in the EU. How will quality of stuff be decreased lmao it'd be exactly the same.


Majority of what you said is going off Uk alone just coming out of eu, not taking into account how this will start to affect the EU itself the pound is worth alot to other currencies(obviously will be down now-because we going into the unknown pretty much) I wouldn't be suprised if another country goes out of EU or it crumble anyway and countries having to revert back to there old currencys(That will be big downfall for all them countries)



Sure few years worth of being less better off than we already was but after that we'll rise again. lol had ton to write but busy atm.

I'm 18.

How are they waiting 6 months? Thousands of new houses were just recently built in one of these "vast areas" you mentioned just down the road from me and that was just empty land which no one ever used, a ton of them are still for sale. Unless you're living in London there isn't a housing shortage.

Yes, we can negotiate how we are going to trade but do you honestly think it's going to be nearly as good? Why would the EU give us the benefits of being in the EU without paying for it? They won't.

The EU is a much larger and stronger economy than we are. We aren't a massive empire like we once were and we aren't as an amazing country as people here seem to think, it's going to be a hell of a lot harder now we don't have the EU.

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 719193)
You will have less money [For 2/3years bigwow -if you living standard now then you will while this goes on]

We're most likely heading into a recession, there's going to be little growth in the economy, value of pound is pretty low and $120 billion was lost overnight after the stock markets collapsed (a big portion of that was pension funds). In the long-term things will even out a little and it's not going to be the end of the world, but would we be better off as an economy in the EU? Pretty much all economists say so.

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 719193)
Quality of goods and services will most likely decrease[Lol really -_-]

Yes, the quality of goods and services will decrease. The EU have pretty strict regulation on quality so by leaving we no longer have to comply with the rules so obviously people a going to take cheaper routes.


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