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Jester Lapse 06-15-2012 09:24 PM

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Posted by Bandit (Post 141650)
I never said it stated you can take others accounts, what I said was it didn't state anything about a friend giving you their account at the time I did it.

I'm saying it was stated months ago, I am too lazy to go thread fishing and find it. So when exactly did you do it if you did it before?

Johnaudi 06-15-2012 09:26 PM

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Posted by Higbey
http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=724&

he says in here how to get a account transfer from one of your old accounts to your new account.

also, you cant claim you didnt know, because anybody would know that would be a dirty thing to do, getting stuff you dont deserve, theres no way to trade those things, so why would anyone think that transfering a friends account to your account would be allowed? if you had asked you would have been told no, if you alerted the staff doing the transfers to what you were doing they wouldnt have transfered,

you are lying, you broke the rules, you are trying to weasel your way out. you arent sorry for what you did, you are sorry you got caught.

(I like it when snk had written "Stole" in the end and not "taken from")

Bandit 06-15-2012 09:28 PM

Higbey I have never even seen that thread and it doesnt even regard combining friends accounts.

Also if i thought it was wrong I would have kept stats hidden for awhile, I unhid stats because I didn't care and didn't think anything was wrong with it.

Higbey 06-15-2012 09:29 PM

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Posted by Bandit (Post 141650)
I never said it stated you can take others accounts, what I said was it didn't state anything about a friend giving you their account at the time I did it.

ignorance does not excuse you from the rules, if you broke a parking law, and claimed you didnt know the law because you never cared to learn about the parking laws when you took the driving lessons, you wouldnt be excused from the fine now would you? you cant expect us to believe you didnt know what you were doing was wrong to do, you are smarter than that.

Johnaudi 06-15-2012 09:30 PM

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Posted by Bandit
Higbey I have never even seen that thread and it doesnt even regard combining friends accounts.

Also if i thought it was wrong I would have kept stats hidden for awhile, I unhid stats because I didn't care and didn't think anything was wrong with it.

Staff can still see the global profile.
PS: I got my iOS global profile updated! Now it shows that I'm male =D

Jester Lapse 06-15-2012 09:30 PM

thanks higgles, lemmie break down what snk said for duke here shall I?

Q: Can you transfer my account?
by your account I am assuming transfers are meant for you and yourself only not taking a friends

A: Email me [ [email protected] ] with 'ATTN: ACCOUNT TRANSFER' in subject line.
MAKE SURE YOU SET YOUR EMAIL IN BOTH PROFILES or else I can't find you.
see that your email part?

---------------
Subject: ATTN: ACCOUNT TRANSFER


Hi,

I have a new device so I would like to request an account transfer. The email set in both of my profiles is ___________@_____.___
ah so it is used if you have a new device, okay

Thanks!
<current in game name here>
----------------

^copy and paste that.


It doesn't need to be any more complicated than that. If you follow what I just said, your email will be prioritized and your account transfer will happen much more soon.
yet again that "your account"

Keep in mind IP address and other stored information will be checked on both accounts to ensure someone is trying to scam you. NEVER GIVE YOUR EMAIL AWAY TO ANYONE just in case though.

Thanks

(Stole from NYN and modified for Era)

Bandit 06-15-2012 09:30 PM

Still don't see the rule for it, im waiting

Jester Lapse 06-15-2012 09:31 PM

still don't see where it says you can :)

Bandit 06-15-2012 09:34 PM

The point is it doesnt have to say I can , if it doesnt state anything then im allowed to. Here is your logic. For example it is illegal to spar on a 2nd gen ipod because it doesn't state you can in the rules. It is obvious you can spar on whatever device, but with your logic it is illegal because the rules dont say you can.

Jester Lapse 06-15-2012 09:35 PM

some rules are just common sense, sadly you seem to be lacking it

Bandit 06-15-2012 09:36 PM

First you said the rule was stated, now you are saying it is common sense, you seem to keep going back on what you say Jester.

Jester Lapse 06-15-2012 09:37 PM

It was stated. Just too lazy to find it ;p

Bandit 06-15-2012 09:38 PM

I never saw it stated once while playing iera. All they said was to not give your emails away because someone can scam you.

KeN(Best) 06-15-2012 09:42 PM

This has more drama then the jersey shore!

*eats popcorn*

Ace 06-15-2012 09:43 PM

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Posted by KeN(Best) (Post 141675)
This has more drama then the jersey shore!

*eats popcorn*

you stole my line >:(

The Doctor 06-15-2012 09:51 PM

Bandit deserves the punishment.

'nuff said

Bandit 06-15-2012 09:59 PM

Also if all this combining is supposedly a rule all of a sudden then shouldnt GETS be deleted? It is basically the same thing I did just gangwise.

NCJohn 06-15-2012 10:13 PM

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Posted by Bandit (Post 141687)
Also if all this combining is supposedly a rule all of a sudden then shouldnt GETS be deleted? It is basically the same thing I did just gangwise.

http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/...whatyoudid.jpg

KeN(Best) 06-15-2012 10:16 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmyyZ7Eh3IQ

Johnaudi 06-15-2012 10:29 PM

I just rage quit...

Jester Lapse 06-15-2012 10:49 PM

but they didnt do it behind staff backs and were not sneaky about it now were they? and that is hours, you got guns items stats. BIG differece

Remorse 06-15-2012 11:04 PM

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Posted by Bandit (Post 141221)
If I stole accounts then staff will find proof. Talk to them about it.

need I say more?

Street 06-15-2012 11:13 PM

There is a rule against it. We don't transfer accounts between two different individuals. I know Duke is aware of this when he asked me to transfer his "brother's" account awhile back, that got him banned originally.

We don't tolerate/accept account theft, account scamming, account trading, and/or account selling.

We don't allow gun transfers between players, so why would we allow account transfers between players? Where is your logic in that?

Jester Lapse 06-15-2012 11:21 PM

Thanks for clarifying that street. And like I said, it's not just his stats. It's the weapons, the graalats, and all the other stuff people had that he never earned. I believe in fair play for everyone. This is borderline cheating

Bandit 06-15-2012 11:40 PM

First of all Jester I didn't try to hide anything. Regarding Streets comment, like I said where does it say anything about merging friends accounts that they gave you? Find info on that and I will be fine with this, also make sure it was a rule before I merged.

Jester Lapse 06-15-2012 11:44 PM

never said you hided anything, in fact i said you wanted attention on it.

Bandit 06-15-2012 11:45 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 141705)
but they didnt do it behind staff backs and were not sneaky about it now were they? and that is hours, you got guns items stats. BIG differece

Lol

Jester Lapse 06-15-2012 11:47 PM

was referring to the fact you didn't ask the question, and act like you thought it wouldn't be a big deal. obviously you wanted the attention and knew it would be due to your streak about it.

Bandit 06-15-2012 11:47 PM

If i was sneaky like you said I would have just hid stats forever.

Jester Lapse 06-15-2012 11:49 PM

you like to show off, of course you wouldn't hide it

Bandit 06-15-2012 11:50 PM

Way to contradict yourself once agian. Gj

Jester Lapse 06-15-2012 11:54 PM

i see no contradiction? You didn't ask a question on an iffy situation like any normal person would. That's sneaky and shady. You like to show off, hence the streak. You showed it off to the players not the staff. Anyways, I have nothing further to say. The facts are here and what happens from here is in the hands of the staff. Goodluck

poorface 06-15-2012 11:58 PM

Quote:

Posted by Street (Post 141715)
There is a rule against it. We don't transfer accounts between two different individuals. I know Duke is aware of this when he asked me to transfer his "brother's" account awhile back, that got him banned originally.

We don't tolerate/accept account theft, account scamming, account trading, and/or account selling.

We don't allow gun transfers between players, so why would we allow account transfers between players? Where is your logic in that?

Yet xXGunnerZXx got to combine his and blades account when blade quit, giving him blades lightsaber

BboyEatsbacon 06-15-2012 11:59 PM

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Posted by Bandit (Post 141729)
First of all Jester I didn't try to hide anything. Regarding Streets comment, like I said where does it say anything about merging friends accounts that they gave you? Find info on that and I will be fine with this, also make sure it was a rule before I merged.

Quote:

Posted by GraalOnline User Agreement
To ensure an enjoyable experience for as many people as possible, you agree to comply with generally accepted standards of proper online behavior. Any GraalOnline administrator and LINUX Cyberjoueurs reserves the right to determine, in its sole discretion, what constitutes generally accepted standards of online behavior and may, without notice and at any time, suspend or terminate your access to the Graal Online System.

This above states that any GraalOnline administrator has the right to terminate an account that is breaking a rule in the eye of the GP.

The rule doesn't have to be written in fine print, it's common sense.

Bandit 06-16-2012 12:10 AM

Having a trade system is common sense, yet I still don't see one.

Rok 06-16-2012 12:50 AM

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Posted by Bandit (Post 141759)
Having a trade system is common sense, yet I still don't see one.

How does that correlate to the difference between legal and illegal?

The fact of the matter is this. Why you would take accounts from your friends just for your own personal gain is one thing, but you've also taken all of their hard work, and basically just flushed it down the drain, as you're probably going to get banned for this now. So gj with that :) Taking the hard work of your friends, and claiming it as your own ("Duke has 300k pks") Your moral compass is a bit off. You think someone who has been banned as many times as you have would learn to just follow the rules, and enjoy the game. Is this the kind of legacy you want to leave behind when you eventually get perma-banned? You want everyone to know you as "the kid who boosts and steals accounts from other people"? If so, then please just keep doing what you're doing.
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Posted by Street (Post 141715)
I know Duke is aware of this when he asked me to transfer his "brother's" account awhile back

So obviously you knew it was wrong, and yet you decided to flaunt "your pks" in a streak. It really seems like you want to be in trouble, you enjoy being banned apparently. You probably could've gotten away with it, if you had just set your ego aside, and hid your stats. But you;ve been done in by your own ego. This is probably the last time I'll hear from you...so toodaloo :)

Bandit 06-16-2012 01:21 AM

Sounds like your still mad about are series;)

Jester Lapse 06-16-2012 01:47 AM

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Posted by Bandit
Sounds like your still mad about are series;)

Our*

Bandit 06-16-2012 01:55 AM

My bad shame on me

BboyEatsbacon 06-16-2012 03:20 AM

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Posted by Bandit (Post 141759)
Having a trade system is common sense, yet I still don't see one.

No, it actually isn't.

Have you seen the effects of trade systems on other servers? Era PC had to go through two resets alone because of the trade system.

Learn some history before you jump to, "well it's kind of like a derp decision to add it, gosh."

Obviously there is a reason we aren't allowed.

Ace 06-16-2012 03:22 AM

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Posted by BboyEatsbacon (Post 141857)
No, it actually isn't.

Have you seen the effects of trade systems on other servers? Era PC had to go through two resets alone because of the trade system.

Learn some history before you jump to "well it's kind of like a derp decisin to adz it goz."

Obviously there is a reason we aren't allowed.

Have you reset the stats and banned him yet?

T-10a 06-16-2012 03:24 AM

Sorry if this is a dumb/lame question bboy, but why was that server reset twice because of the system?

Street 06-16-2012 03:29 AM

Your logic is flawed. Trading system being common sense as part of the game has nothing to do with anything. The game developers decide what they want to implement into the game, common sense or common desire has no part of it. It is a game, designed the way they wanted it. If you don't like it, then don't play it.

We have a rule against account trading/selling. Same goes with the weapons. Why are players able to drop certain rares and not their guns? The game was designed that way, the developers wanted it that way for reasons you will not understand.

You claim there are no rules about merging your friend's account into yours. Again, your judgement is flawed. How can you prove your friend didn't sell you his account? You can't. We also can't prove he didn't. For this reason alone, we don't allow "merging" or transfers between two people. It is that simple. Anytime two different people have their accounts merged, it could be part of an account theft, trade, selling, etc.

P.S: He has been banned since last night (PST). The decision for an account reset will be determined by snk, as it is not part of my responsibility.

T-10a 06-16-2012 03:31 AM

Ok, Street explained everything we want to know here (except my question >_>), so /close kthxbai.

Bandit 06-16-2012 03:42 AM

Like I said once before this "rule" about merging did not exist. All that was stated was to not give your email away and if you scam you will be banned and reset. Also bboy thats why era pc still has a trade system and trade systems work in anynother game? Its funny how you consider yourself the human encyclopedia. You don't know everything and know little to nothing about this case. Also regarding Street, if you guys cant prove that I stole accounts why is that my ban reason? It all comes down to this simple question. Can you show me where you guys stated that friends cannot merge accounts?

Peter 06-16-2012 03:46 AM

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Posted by Bandit (Post 141869)
Like I said once before this "rule" about merging did not exist. All that was stated was to not give your email away and if you scam you will be banned and reset. Also bboy thats why era pc still has a trade system and trade systems work in anynother game? Its funny how you consider yourself the human encyclopedia. You don't know everything and know little to nothing about this case. Also regarding Street, if you guys cant prove that I stole accounts why is that my ban reason? It all comes down to this simple question. Can you show me where you guys stated that friends cannot merge accounts?

The economy in iEra and PC Era are different. PC Era was reset twice because its economy was a complete disaster back then. The nature of the items and weapons now make the trade system possible though. However, iEra isn't as simple as PC Era. The trade system would completely wreck it like it did on PC Era years back. (Off topic)

" Can you show me where you guys stated that friends cannot merge accounts?"

^ This question has already been answered many times. By merging accounts, items and weapons are also transferred. We have stated clearly that weapon/item transfers are not allowed. By your logic, you mean to say something MUST be written down in order for it to be true. Harassing staff members is not allowed but it's not written down explicitly. So, does that give you the right to harass staff members? No.

Bandit 06-16-2012 03:49 AM

Yes this is not a transfer, it is an account merging, two different subjects.

Peter 06-16-2012 03:51 AM

By merging accounts, you are already 'transferring' items and weapons from one account to another.

Bandit 06-16-2012 03:55 AM

I see where you are coming from, but I still did not see a rule stating the merging. I didn't even realise the items would be transferred until after, mainly because I didn't need them. I already had best guns and melees. So is this "rule" that wasnt stated only in affect for me? I know plenty of people who have done the same thing even before the merging system was released. and nothing happens to them.

Ace 06-16-2012 04:00 AM

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Posted by Bandit (Post 141876)
I see where you are coming from, but I still did not see a rule stating the merging. I didn't even realise the items would be transferred until after, mainly because I didn't need them. I already had best guns and melees. So is this "rule" that wasnt stated only in affect for me? I know plenty of people who have done the same thing even before the merging system was released. and nothing happens to them.

it's common sence...for the last damn time


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