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Talon 08-27-2012 11:08 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 188043)
it's = it is :p

Oops. Had it the other way around.

):

I have failed myself.

Jester Lapse 08-27-2012 11:14 PM

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Posted by Talon (Post 188056)
Oops. Had it the other way around.

):

I have failed myself.

I still love you <3

Talon 08-27-2012 11:19 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 188060)
I still love you <3

aww u so sweet bb<3

Dude1310 08-28-2012 12:17 AM

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Posted by snk (Post 188029)
Can't use barrells / wooden creates in houses/gang houses unless you own it

Nice. Bye bye glitchers :D

Billy 08-28-2012 01:26 AM

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Posted by Dude1310 (Post 188127)
Nice. Bye bye glitchers :D

Glitchers that scam don't even use those..Like wtf you can easily kick them. Glitchers use lag to get around fences and take your item. Sometimes they can be too fast.

Shock 08-28-2012 03:21 AM

I think a simpler solution should be in order. Whenever a drop button is pushed, a pop up that advises against trading should come up.

"Do you want to drop this item? Be aware that you drop at you're own risk. There is a chance you may loose your items permanently with no compensation."

I like the ability to drop items. I think all weapons however, should be non droppable, unless they are for fun. Yes, it's unfair to give out a free Melee that can rival an expensive Melee or an EC Melee. I think holiday shops should be the only place to get those special items.

Any way you look at it, a real trade system kills the game.

So either make the warnings noob-proof and in players faces everytime they drop items... or only enable job and minor items to be dropped.

Jester Lapse 08-28-2012 03:54 AM

There's already a warning message before you drop?

Sungwonc01 08-28-2012 05:20 AM

Make it a achievement to look at the drop screen for a full ten seconds.

fsh 08-28-2012 06:11 AM

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Posted by Shock (Post 188215)
I think a simpler solution should be in order. Whenever a drop button is pushed, a pop up that advises against trading should come up.

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 188239)
There's already a warning message before you drop!?!?!?!?!?!?


Shock 08-28-2012 07:45 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 188239)
There's already a warning message before you drop?

Yes, but it has to be bigger, more obnoxious and in your face. The warning doesn't seem "loud" as of right now.

Froggy Krueger 08-28-2012 08:38 AM

Maybe just a system where items need to be "trading approved". Basically, could just add in outdated/removed items per judgement of staff. If times between original release and approval are large, people would still buy the item from stores. Also, some sort of fee ~50 gralats would be able to remove sone cash from circulation. Lastly, item durability/limit on number of times a certain item can be traded could help.

SnakeRekon 08-28-2012 10:50 AM

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Posted by Froggy Krueger (Post 188365)
Maybe just a system where items need to be "trading approved". Basically, could just add in outdated/removed items per judgement of staff. If times between original release and approval are large, people would still buy the item from stores. Also, some sort of fee ~50 gralats would be able to remove sone cash from circulation. Lastly, item durability/limit on number of times a certain item can be traded could help.

Na, you always get idiot staff who just click blindly and accept anything thats going z.z its also open to abuse

Era News 08-28-2012 10:59 AM

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Posted by snk
There are no plans for a trade system as of yet.

We allowed item dropping so you can gift to friends- nothing else. The only solution to all this is to stop dropping of all items (melee based etc)

What're your views on this?

Snk; If you disable dropping items 1/2 the player world will quit.

SnakeRekon 08-28-2012 11:00 AM

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Posted by Era News (Post 188391)
Snk; If you disable dropping items 1/2 the player world will quit.

Doubt it xD we'd of course find another way for players to interact

Era News 08-28-2012 11:04 AM

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Posted by SnakeRekon

Doubt it xD we'd of course find another way for players to interact

No you wouldn't, snake I bet my house that it would.

SnakeRekon 08-28-2012 11:15 AM

800 players aren't going to instantly quit lol

Angel 08-28-2012 11:18 AM

So no more lag?

Era News 08-28-2012 11:21 AM

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Posted by SnakeRekon
800 players aren't going to instantly quit lol

For 10 year old kids it's like not talking

SnakeRekon 08-28-2012 11:32 AM

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Posted by Era News (Post 188402)
For 10 year old kids it's like not talking

Some stuff would be droppable

Whackanerd 08-28-2012 11:58 PM

I had alot of guns, 36 EC alot of melles and a bunch of stuff adding up to alot of money, i hit transfer on my ipod when i went to log into my email adress and when i loged in everything was gone.

Froggy Krueger 08-29-2012 01:07 AM

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 188385)
Na, you always get idiot staff who just click blindly and accept anything thats going z.z its also open to abuse

Make it a right for certain higher staff, similar to how the upload system was changed after it was abused. Voila

Higbey 08-29-2012 02:31 AM

Well account scamming is against the rules, so major scammers can actually be banned if dropping is disables and they resort to that, my idea? Dropping deletes the item. This way you can get rid of crap still.

Everyone is so silly about this, trading harming economy, rich irl players dominating, this could all be solved by making trading only allowing items that cannot be sold. Meaning you only recycle those unsellable things, meaning the only way to get a new one of those things is to buy it or earn it via the game which hasn't caused any problems so far... If you can only trade what you can't use to convert into gralats and can't trade gralats.... Then there is no Way to harm the economy, even though without trading there wouldn't really be a economy since prices are set and quanity and demand doesn't come into play...

iSilver 08-29-2012 02:36 AM

No more ecs for achievement because Paul Frank had to be a baby about it
picrelated
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...NIwK-CE_NQ&t=1

Higbey 08-29-2012 03:15 AM

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Posted by Era News (Post 188402)
For 10 year old kids it's like not talking

seeing as snk doesnt get payed and thus doesnt care about the profit the server makes he would actually probably love it if all the 10 year olds quit.

Zero02 08-29-2012 03:24 AM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 188875)
seeing as snk doesnt get payed and thus doesnt care about the profit the server makes he would actually probably love it if all the 10 year olds quit.

I think we all would be happy

Shock 08-29-2012 03:31 AM

Well Snk, whatever you choose... keep in mind that with this major change, there can be possible repercussions. I don't know what those could be per se... Could be young players quitting, could be other people who quit, or no one will care about the change very much. Hit or miss...

Scar 08-29-2012 04:17 AM

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Posted by snk (Post 187214)
There are no plans for a trade system as of yet.

Last august you guys said you were planning one.

Sungwonc01 08-29-2012 04:34 AM

Who said that? If the MANAGER of Graal says they are not, then that person is a Mr. Liar.

Higbey 08-29-2012 04:42 AM

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Posted by Scar (Post 188918)
Last august you guys said you were planning one.

The unfortunate co owner of graal, Stefan Knorr, does not want that to happen. Just like how he won't let VIP be removed, he won't let graal city be PK, he won't let iclassic change our ugly tileset, and he won't let them add ways to easily make 500 gralats in a fun way. He lets a group of friends that are disliked and unchecked run stuff on PC, these are known as the PWA, and if you see them crossing the street while you are driving, speed up.

He also listens to Unixmad (Stephane Portha) who only cares about money, loves to censor posts, and has shown he will ignore players and try to squeeze players into maintaining a costly and nonplayer friendly subscription without giving a rats ass about what people care. People can add tons of work to the game, and he will still have them pay. Not to mention he is hated because he rips off other peoples games and steals them. Remember that old alien game?


Basically, the reason we will not get what we ask is because the game is owned by two men in Europe who don't deserve to control this game and no doubt have limited what it could become.

Yea Stefan made this game, but he doesn't do a good job of running it.

lord mafia Era 08-29-2012 07:55 AM

just make the System and keep the players drop there gift. o_0 Sample.

Shock 08-29-2012 07:05 PM

Or you could limit the number of drops a person can do per day.

fsh 08-29-2012 07:09 PM

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Posted by lord mafia Era (Post 189020)
just make the System and keep the players drop there gift. o_0 Simple*.

no.

Skill 08-29-2012 10:13 PM

make a drop exchange. Basically make something not intended as trading that is hard to scam if people know what they're doing, but not advertised as trading or even related to item exchange at all.

SnakeRekon 08-29-2012 10:33 PM

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Posted by Skill (Post 189256)
make a drop exchange. Basically make something not intended as trading that is hard to scam if people know what they're doing, but not advertised as trading or even related to item exchange at all.

This is pretty counter productive in itself lol

lord mafia Era 08-30-2012 04:42 AM

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Posted by fsh (Post 189188)
no.

yes yes yes ! and yes xP

Sungwonc01 08-30-2012 06:02 AM

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Posted by lord mafia Era (Post 189511)
yes yes yes ! and yes xP

No no and hell no. You are infecting my subscribed thread box! Every thread has your posts in it.

lord mafia Era 08-30-2012 06:03 AM

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Posted by sungwonc01 (Post 189541)
No no and hell no. You are infecting my subscribed thread box! Every thread has your posts in it.

xD yep! keep it real hahah?!!

Johnaudi 08-30-2012 06:44 AM

I recommend removing the following items from droppable, Stefan doesn't want strong weapons to be given :
1)Umbrella
2)Taser
3)Crab Daggers
4)SPD Dagger
5)Amber (yes, it has an annoying knock-back)
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Small off topic suggestion, remove the player freeze from the knock-back, since it would make it far harder to kill someone while they are cutting us off.

Yogy* 08-30-2012 07:12 AM

I agree lol but not tazer im getting very good offers for it :p

Talon 08-30-2012 09:56 AM

Yes, not taser, because we don't want to upset one person out of 1,200+ daily players.

Jøren* 08-30-2012 10:20 AM

just make ANY items dropable...

Johnaudi 08-30-2012 01:10 PM

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Posted by Talon (Post 189639)
Yes, not taser, because we don't want to upset one person out of 1,200+ daily players.

Yeah, I hate when people start being selfish :/ owell...

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Posted by Jøren* (Post 189645)
just make ANY items dropable...

My mommy told me when I can't say anything nice, say nothing at all...

mugayer 08-30-2012 06:35 PM

Just make a trading system the items that can be dropped now can be traded. There are tons of ppl that want it.

Billy 08-30-2012 06:44 PM

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Posted by mugayer (Post 189758)
Just make a trading system the items that can be dropped now can be traded. There are tons of ppl that want it.

Staff ignore me when I recommend that. It seems like they want scamming going on.

Jøren* 08-30-2012 06:45 PM

lol

lord greg 08-31-2012 02:28 PM

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Posted by mugayer (Post 189758)
Just make a trading system the items that can be dropped now can be traded. There are tons of ppl that want it.

have you read anything here?

Talon 08-31-2012 07:37 PM

Have you?

V. 08-31-2012 09:37 PM

have you? Sorry, felt left out.

Talon 09-01-2012 12:37 AM

ya i maed bigass post on pg2 ur dum

Jester Lapse 09-01-2012 12:44 AM

GO GO POWER RANGERS


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