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Motrox 11-11-2012 01:34 AM

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Posted by failure (Post 230904)
So it all comes out at the same time, so it gets old together, so players rant for more stuff more, yadda yadda yadda.
I'd rather have a good update every couple weeks or so, that way we stay entertained and we don't rant as much.

Also, I hate the freaking "parties". It's just a lag fest, and nothing ever happens, you just see an admin showing off their admin stuff.


Jester Lapse 11-11-2012 01:34 AM

It is obvious the players are not satisfied. Seems to me everyone wants a common thing. More frequent updates. Stop holding back IF things are actually done. But again, I feel, the players will be ignored.

callimuc 11-11-2012 01:36 AM

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Posted by failure (Post 230904)
So it all comes out at the same time, so it gets old together, so players rant for more stuff more, yadda yadda yadda.
I'd rather have a good update every couple weeks or so, that way we stay entertained and we don't rant as much.

Also, I hate the freaking "parties". It's just a lag fest, and nothing ever happens, you just see an admin showing off their admin stuff.

yes, it might be stupid to have everything released at once, but we are waiting for something else to be done and than release the stuff randomly and not at once (well at least me with my stuff)
you dont have to join the lag fest - be happy about less lag somewhere else. and yea i also dont like how staff is getting all items when its resulting into a showoff anyway, but meh its not up to me.

failure 11-11-2012 01:39 AM

Staff do get very busy, and PRs don't exactly have to work, just help players. It's nice that they can entertain with "parties" (which makes no sense to me) and events and auctions (only with permission). Even when offline, GFX and SFX etc. admins can still be working, which is great. But the various projects, instead of focusing on one at a time, are what is bothering players such as myself.

callimuc 11-11-2012 01:39 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 230908)
It is obvious the players are not satisfied. Seems to me everyone wants a common thing. More frequent updates. Stop holding back IF things are actually done. But again, I feel, the players will be ignored.

if players are being ignored, how comes im still around? how comes john is still around? and what about meph? even though most of the staff team stopped bothering to check everything on here because of the stupidy of most players and their ignorant being, there are still people listening to your suggestions.
this are not the official forums so we couldnt give a less **** what you are saying/suggesting on here.
gladly rufus made such a fan forum where staff can see your suggestions which i am doing and probably will keep doing as long as im a staff member.

failure 11-11-2012 01:41 AM

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Posted by callimuc (Post 230910)
you dont have to join the lag fest - be happy about less lag somewhere else. and

It's tough to do this when some admins (Casper) say something will be given or happen at the party, and someone, myself, does not want to miss said "something" or giveaway.

callimuc 11-11-2012 01:41 AM

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Posted by failure (Post 230912)
But the various projects, instead of focusing on one at a time, are what is bothering players such as myself.

staff randomly get up with ideas or plan to create some stuff players suggested which is ending up with GFXs/LATs just creating it when they are bored (also posting stuff on FB or creating threads on here to get hopes up) and waiting for scripters to script it, while we have to do some other stuff.

Slinger 11-11-2012 01:41 AM

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Posted by callimuc (Post 230910)
but meh its not up to me.

Who is it up to then? Also why can you not bring it up as an issue?

Shock 11-11-2012 01:42 AM

I don't mind the cluster of content. I'm just unsatisfied with leaking. My last post might have gone unnoticed as we all posted simultaneously. Check page three at the bottom.

failure 11-11-2012 01:43 AM

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Posted by callimuc (Post 230915)
staff randomly get up with ideas or plan to create some stuff players suggested which is ending up with GFXs/LATs just creating it when they are bored (also posting stuff on FB or creating threads on here to get hopes up) and waiting for scripters to script it, while we have to do some other stuff.

Ah, I understand now, I didn't look at it like that.

Rufus 11-11-2012 01:43 AM

I find that players only recognize an update when it is grouped together as a large offering. It's a shame because if you release something every now-and-again (like you are suggesting) they totally overlook its value. On Classic people only seem to view entire town releases as updates

Higbey 11-11-2012 01:44 AM

staff member admits he doesnt care what players want or say, well guys, theres always strosteria,

or maybe if i ever do get my iron grip on a server i could turn graal around and give players what they deserve.

Jester Lapse 11-11-2012 01:44 AM

seems to me like you need to hire more scripters. You also said there is stuff ready, just tell me why we can't get a great update every month instead of waiting 6-8 months for something that is advertised as fantastic.

callimuc 11-11-2012 01:46 AM

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Posted by failure (Post 230914)
It's tough to do this when some admins (Casper) say something will be given or happen at the party, and someone, myself, does not want to miss said "something" or giveaway.

he probably gave away dolls? he doesnt have the permission to give out free items, just to do the freeby once in a while.

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Posted by Slinger (Post 230916)
Who is it up to then? Also why can you not bring it up as an issue?

i am already trying to limit my unreleased items, except i need other staff members to test it and/or give some feedback.

Rufus 11-11-2012 01:46 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 230921)
seems to me like you need to hire more scripters. You also said there is stuff ready, just tell me why we can't get a great update every month instead of waiting 6-8 months for something that is advertised as fantastic.

Are there any games that provide 'great updates' on a monthly basis?


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