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Dusty 03-22-2013 05:28 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 316251)
Since you are actually smart and apparently staff:


Can you explain to me why that is illegal? People were literally banned for taunting another guild by doing the AFK emoticon while blocking and saying stuff like "EZ," I don't get it. This guy seems to be under the impression that it is illegal in some way, and whichever admin handed out the bans seems to think so as well.

Are these people under the impression that hitting Ctrl+A somehow extends the length that you're able to block in a doorway?

Well I'm just development, and not really trained to be a GP or anything like that. GPs have certain rules and punishments for various situations. I'm not familiar with that stuff at all so I can't say. Unless I see someone blatantly hacking I just report them.

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 316254)
If you're referring to lag/chat blocking it's the same thing, usually after reporting it's too late to catch them in the act.

No, I'm referring to "hacking/glitching." It doesn't matter if the person is staff and can respond to it immediately or not. If someone hacks or glitches then they have absolutely no right to whine that a staff happened to be able to react faster because they're "participating." In the end, the staff wouldn't be at an advantage if people didn't hack/glitch in the first place, because the situation wouldn't arise.

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Posted by Thallen (Post 316271)
Of course, that's almost old news. They do it so often that it's almost a part of the game itself, I don't even complain about it anymore. I actually accept it as a part of Graal. I'm sure fp4 or Dusty can comment here confirming that there is no boinky script in tower levels that would cause a player to just randomly get warped away at critical points when sieging a tower.

The only warping that occurs at a guild fort is when the flag ownership changes and everyone but the new owners are warped out. There are no other warping functions in play.

Winter 03-22-2013 05:29 PM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 316308)
Thallen, it's CLEARLY obvious just having your keyboard up on your iDevice makes hits much longer to recognize on someone. And typing on PC is the same concept. I can get someone to record this if you want lol this one is a fact, this isn't opinion based lol if you block while chatting you'll take longer to die.

I think this may be a FPS issue, as Thallen said before with the early PC example. Although, I'm not an expert on the signal flow between client, server, client...

Eldon 03-22-2013 06:11 PM

-libbie is no longer admin
-chat blocking doesincrease blink.
-vintage is a cheap guild due to their admin
-she is a GIANT hypocrite
-IMO remove her from staff. She has done too many thing to deserve a warning.
-IMO vintage should be reset. They wouldnt be anything without their abusive admin.
-she has warped(not the tower warp to graal city but the unstuck warp)
-she bans you for doing things she did in the first place.
-as thallen says uses vanish for unfair reasons.
-yes these female admins are envy and aster

Blueh 03-22-2013 09:57 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 316218)
Okay.

Pidgin history screenshot of me talking to a guildmate, just to show you that we literally have to strategize against admins:
http://puu.sh/2lUY4

And here's the Gyazo link:
http://gyazo.com/e04e29c7d4a267085ee99b30201fb025.png




Similar story: Aran, Ramone, Exalt*, and myself were defending Swamp fort from Vintage. We were all on a subtag slashing at the entrance and literally killing everyone before they even got into the water. On screen, Aster starts threatening to send us a warning for "boosting." ?!?!?! Boosting because you're running into our swords as we strategically defend a fort? This all occurred right before Envy turned into The Invisible Woman and helped her guild steal the fort from us.

After they took it, we go in to attack and they are doing the exaaact same thing that Aster had just threatened to warn us for.

I see your point. Maybe you should bring a camera to the next fort you have.

Rezon 03-22-2013 10:16 PM

PROCESSOR SPEED DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE TO LATENCY

Striken 03-22-2013 10:19 PM

Since Aimee claims it isn't illegal to spam someone, I guess I can spam her since it's "legal".

Blueh 03-22-2013 10:30 PM

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Posted by Striken (Post 316443)
Since Aimee claims it isn't illegal to spam someone, I guess I can spam her since it's "legal".

Not a good idea. Staff harassment is banable. You really don't want to give them a valid excuse, now do you?

Eldon 03-22-2013 10:33 PM

Oh but of course when she harasses us countless times by warping its fine :) or if they spam us its fine right? Its "different" of course right?

Striken 03-22-2013 10:41 PM

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Posted by Blueh (Post 316448)
Not a good idea. Staff harassment is banable. You really don't want to give them a valid excuse, now do you?

It's not considered staff harassment if I'm not saying anything negative to them, now is it?

Thallen 03-22-2013 10:46 PM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 316308)
How can someone get banned for spam when there's a block button

I dunno, ask every player who has ever been banned for harassment or cursing?



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Posted by Dusty (Post 316310)
Unless I see someone blatantly hacking I just report them.

Yeah, that's because you're smart. You surely understand hit detection, lag, and other elements of the game more than the average player. Some GPs have been monkey-trained into believing something as stupid as doing an emoticon in a doorway is strictly forbidden.



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Posted by Dusty (Post 316310)
The only warping that occurs at a guild fort is when the flag ownership changes and everyone but the new owners are warped out. There are no other warping functions in play.

Good, as I suspected.

Blueh 03-22-2013 10:46 PM

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Posted by Striken (Post 316458)
It's not considered staff harassment if I'm not saying anything negative to them, now is it?

That's to their interpretation.

Striken 03-22-2013 10:52 PM

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Posted by Blueh (Post 316462)
That's to their interpretation.

Do remember this, they're an admin. They're "qualified" to handle a situation in the best way appropriate, which is by blocking the player rather than handing them a ban for something that they didn't actually do which could result in a bad name for them.

Blueh 03-22-2013 11:00 PM

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Posted by Striken (Post 316466)
Do remember this, they're an admin. They're "qualified" to handle a situation in the best way appropriate, which is by blocking the player rather than handing them a ban for something that they didn't actually do which could result in a bad name for them.

From what we've learned from this thread, not all of them handles things appropriately like supposed to. I don't want to argue, I just want to say spamming them probably isn't in your best interests.

Striken 03-22-2013 11:02 PM

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Posted by Blueh (Post 316471)
From what we've learned from this thread, not all of them handles things appropriately like supposed to. I don't want to argue, I just want to say spamming them probably isn't in your best interests.

Might not be, but it will give them a taste of their own medicine.

AimeeAdelphos 03-23-2013 12:17 AM

If someone were actually warping and abusing as such it should be emailed and management of the game can investigate. If you're right you're right but hate bashing without knowing 100% if it was them isn't fair to them. As for someone saying they favor tower guilds towering as with spar is a huge part of the game and where a majority of the problems occur with lag abuse hacking/cheating etc, so yes of course staff is at forts. I myself report anytime someone lags out, is unkillable or appears to be chat/lag blocking. Staff shows up, not because it's a "staff" guild, because it's their job.

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Posted by Blueh (Post 316448)
Not a good idea. Staff harassment is banable. You really don't want to give them a valid excuse, now do you?

I'm no longer staff, I quit a couple months back, and spamming is block able not ban able even if one is on their staff account.

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Posted by Striken (Post 316443)
Since Aimee claims it isn't illegal to spam someone, I guess I can spam her since it's "legal".

That's fine. Spam away. I have another member of a different guild who does it all the time to me and my guild.


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