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Hadzz 12-08-2014 06:09 PM

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Posted by Fysez (Post 524430)
I don't think anyone, including females, are interested in romance at such a young age.
However, if you grow up watching shows, movies, experiences, etc. on male-female relationships, they'll most likely grow up liking the opposite sex.

Certainly seemed that way in my primary.

GOAT 12-08-2014 06:43 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 524170)
and beastiality, especially ancient greece

You know the weirdest things


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Posted by Fysez (Post 524430)
I don't think anyone, including females, are interested in romance at such a young age.

Depends what you mean by young age. I remember taking off with a girl when I was like 10 to "make out", I didn't have a clue what I was doing, but I know I was happy. It was funny because all we did was held our lips together for like a minute at a time. The point being that I was already interested in girls.

I also know a woman that became a grandmother before she was 30. Do the math and it's very young.



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Posted by Spirit19 (Post 524432)
Being that only 2% of the world is gay I don't think it would get a lot of "high praise". Definitely not #1 movie in America material.

The thing is that the 2% doesn't include all the dudes that are trapped in the closet like Rufus and Ash Ketchup.

Ghettoicedtea 12-08-2014 07:24 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 524449)
You know the weirdest things

i swear to god i remember all the weirdest **** ever yet i rarely remember anything important that i need to know.

kenthefruit 12-09-2014 02:55 AM

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Posted by Fysez (Post 524430)
I don't think anyone, including females, are interested in romance at such a young age.
However, if you grow up watching shows, movies, experiences, etc. on male-female relationships, they'll most likely grow up liking the opposite sex.

lol you honestly think such little things like that determines whether your gay or not?

Kiwi 12-09-2014 02:59 AM

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Posted by Spirit19 (Post 524432)
Being that only 2% of the world is gay I don't think it would get a lot of "high praise". Definitely not #1 movie in America material.

lmao going off what you say, 2% of the world's population is still 142 million people - more than high enough to warrant positive representation

I don't know why you all assume that a movie like this would only have interest for gay people anyway; that's like saying the world wouldn't buy into frozen, because not everyone is a woman and has a sister with magic ice powers

HON3Y BADG3R 12-09-2014 04:32 AM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 524234)
But you do realize how incredibly sexist most of not all Disney movies are towards women regardless of culture.

Just look at Mulan...

Okay the Mulan situation makes sense because of the time it took place in. I think it should be praised for the opposite in some aspects. For example when the antagonist, Shan Yu, found out that he was beaten by a girl he did not get angry or freak out. He was impressed.

Fysez 12-09-2014 04:45 AM

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Posted by kenovo (Post 524627)
lol you honestly think such little things like that determines whether your gay or not?

Yes.
Small, I mean even tiny, life situations can change your entire future. Especially in children.
If a child, boy or girl, grows up watching and being around same-sex couples, they'll more likely than not also have an interest in same-sex relations. This is because we adapt to our surroundings.

It's a pretty basic understanding, actually, point being that yes.. Even small things like watching movies on heterosexual encounters, and enjoying those movies, give you a role model.
I remember being little and wanting to be someone like Saria (from Zelda, green girl), so I associated my imagination to her. Even though she played a very small role in any part of my life.

kenthefruit 12-09-2014 04:48 AM

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Posted by Fysez (Post 524659)
Yes.
Small, I mean even tiny, life situations can change your entire future. Especially in children.
If a child, boy or girl, grows up watching and being around same-sex couples, they'll more likely than not also have an interest in same-sex relations. This is because we adapt to our surroundings.

It's a pretty basic understanding, actually, point being that yes.. Even small things like watching movies on heterosexual encounters, and enjoying those movies, give you a role model.
I remember being little and wanting to be someone like Sara (from Zelda, green girl), so I associated my imagination to her. Even though she played a very small role in any part of my life.

Though I agree with you our actions and behavior is affected by our surroundings, your sexual orientation has nothing to do with that. It's been tested hundreds of times that gay people are genetically gay. Not because they witnessed or were around gay people. They were born with it and there's nothing else to it.

HON3Y BADG3R 12-09-2014 04:56 AM

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Posted by Fysez (Post 524659)
Yes.
If a child, boy or girl, grows up watching and being around same-sex couples, they'll more likely than not also have an interest in same-sex relations. This is because we adapt to our surroundings.

No they don't.

Almost all gay people today come from straight family's. Sexuality almost always comes from the mind.

OT:

This movie would never happen im the world today. It's a political issue currently and Disney would be stupid to put this out now. Maybe in the future? But still, why can't they make more movies with the prince as a protagonist, kinda like Tangled.

Myst 12-09-2014 05:33 AM

This will be an interesting watch, not sure if showing g@y characters is a good thing, and more than likely not many parents will show this movie to their kids.

Fysez 12-09-2014 05:34 PM

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Posted by kenovo (Post 524663)
Though I agree with you our actions and behavior is affected by our surroundings, your sexual orientation has nothing to do with that. It's been tested hundreds of times that gay people are genetically gay. Not because they witnessed or were around gay people. They were born with it and there's nothing else to it.

It's not genetically inscripted in your DNA to be attracted to the same sex. Just like it's not genetically inscripted in my DNA that I prefer Sony over Microsoft.

It's not legitimately proven that liking the same gender is in our born blood or not. As far as we, the human race, know: it is based on our surroundings.

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Posted by HON3Y BADG3R (Post 524666)
No they don't.

Almost all gay people today come from straight family's. Sexuality almost always comes from the mind.

There are so many factors outside of your household and away from your family.
If you're a child and are made fun of by a homosexual group, your mind will believe that "all homosexuals are this way" (not for everyone, but this is a typical mind-set for humans). Of course, it's not reversed to heterosexual groups, because homosexual groups stand out more; like being in highschool and seeing the "Emo group," "Nerd group," ", Jock group," etc.

However, opposing the first paragraph, if you were to grow up outside of home (school, maybe?) accepted by someone in the "homosexual group," you'll have an admiration for them, enjoy hanging around with them, and have a role model to be like.

Again, there are so many factors that almost anything is possible for this type of outcome.

Zazzi* 12-09-2014 06:15 PM

I don't want to see two guys kissing.

Fysez 12-09-2014 07:12 PM

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Posted by Zazzi* (Post 524834)
I don't want to see two guys kissing.

This goes perfectly with your signature ahaha

mallard 12-09-2014 07:28 PM

American Psychological Association says:
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There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles; most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation.
I tried to find if there was any research I could quote but everything I could find was illegible and had numbers I didn't understand in them.

The Doctor 12-09-2014 09:17 PM

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Posted by Fysez (Post 524816)
It's not genetically inscripted in your DNA to be attracted to the same sex. Just like it's not genetically inscripted in my DNA that I prefer Sony over Microsoft.

It's not legitimately proven that liking the same gender is in our born blood or not. As far as we, the human race, know: it is based on our surroundings.



There are so many factors outside of your household and away from your family.
If you're a child and are made fun of by a homosexual group, your mind will believe that "all homosexuals are this way" (not for everyone, but this is a typical mind-set for humans). Of course, it's not reversed to heterosexual groups, because homosexual groups stand out more; like being in highschool and seeing the "Emo group," "Nerd group," ", Jock group," etc.

However, opposing the first paragraph, if you were to grow up outside of home (school, maybe?) accepted by someone in the "homosexual group," you'll have an admiration for them, enjoy hanging around with them, and have a role model to be like.

Again, there are so many factors that almost anything is possible for this type of outcome.

I don't see any reason why people would want to "become" homosexual. Look at how many people, including you, bigot against them. I most certainly believe that it's not a choice.


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