Posted by Distorted (Post 531258)

Agreed 100%, that's a waste of some peoples times.

Then again... It's a ******* hat.

Posted by Seanster (Post 531326)

Using hackers, or even being aware of someone using hacks while towering and not reporting him shouldn't be encouraged in any way. If the guild members would report the hackers, as they were 100% aware of it most of the times, they wouldn't get punished AT ALL. It doesn't matter how many hours the hackers helped gain, and nobody can know that, and doesn't matter how close to their goal they were, their hours should be reset, and it seems the most fair punishment to me.

Posted by Kendama (Post 531349)

True, but its also a guild-changing milestone.



You act like hacking is committing a class 3 felony. Hacking graal is so ****ing easy and I see hackers whenever I log on. It is sort of hard to avoid them especially at towers. Graal police should be actively patrolling towers and checking for hackers, they would get banned a lot easier that way.

You obviously do not realize how hard it can be to organize and upkeep a guild and its members and keep everyone following the rules.

I didn't say it should be encouraged, I said that the punishment should include warnings and temporary guild shutdowns- not deleting that many hours (spent poorly) of so many people lives.

Posted by Kendama (Post 531349)

True, but its also a guild-changing milestone.



You act like hacking is committing a class 3 felony. Hacking graal is so ****ing easy and I see hackers whenever I log on. It is sort of hard to avoid them especially at towers. Graal police should be actively patrolling towers and checking for hackers, they would get banned a lot easier that way.

You obviously do not realize how hard it can be to organize and upkeep a guild and its members and keep everyone following the rules.

I didn't say it should be encouraged, I said that the punishment should include warnings and temporary guild shutdowns- not deleting that many hours (spent poorly) of so many people lives.

Posted by Common Sense (Post 531372)

They probably were warned because they have been using hackers for a while now.

They may have not have asked people to hack for them, but they definitely knew that members were hacking and they used that to their advantage.

Posted by Kendama (Post 531349)

Hacking graal is so ****ing easy

Posted by Distorted (Post 531383)

That doesn't mean you should do it...

Posted by Tyree (Post 531411)

Its just a hat. Get over it.

Posted by Kendama (Post 531381)

obviously- you just dont realize how extreme of a punishment it is to disregard everyones true hard work and time and delete all the guilds progress.

Its like a lawsuit. A company gets a lawsuit for violating something. The whole company doesn't get all their money taken, they just have to pay up the right amount to the violation they committed

Posted by Distorted (Post 531383)

That doesn't mean you should do it...

Posted by Tyree (Post 531411)

Its just a hat. Get over it.

Posted by Common Sense (Post 531435)

Eventually a company will lose all of its money if they keep getting sued and keeping having to pay money.

Helios has been using hackers for a while now, I'm sure they've been warned and they probably thought they could do it for fun because they were only less than an hour away from 1k.