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Kuz 04-08-2016 04:12 PM

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Posted by Yog (Post 693389)
Isn't a sparrer = doesn't play Graal.

It's kinda funny since the majority of Zanza members started playing before you.

What does that have to do with anything lol...you got players who have been playing from 2009 who don't know what blink/delay/hit boxes even are... Just because Zanza members have been playing for a long time doesn't mean they have an understanding of how spar works.

Zetectic 04-08-2016 04:20 PM

except diz (never sparred him), all the zanza sparrers weren't impressive.

Yog 04-08-2016 04:25 PM

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Posted by Kuz (Post 693390)
What does that have to do with anything lol...you got players who have been playing from 2009 who don't know what blink/delay/hit boxes even are... Just because Zanza members have been playing for a long time doesn't mean they have an understanding of how spar works.

Did you even read the post I quoted? Red was saying Zanza members never actually played Graal. His post said nothing about spar

Either way, why is it a requirement to be good at something for you to understand how it works?

Bryan* 04-08-2016 04:53 PM

Because if you're **** at what you do, you effect yourself and everyone around you.

Yog 04-08-2016 05:33 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 693396)
Because if you're **** at what you do, you effect yourself and everyone around you.

Then let them stick to moderation, and you guys stick to sparring.

Fulgore 04-08-2016 05:58 PM

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Posted by Yog (Post 693395)
Did you even read the post I quoted? Red was saying Zanza members never actually played Graal. His post said nothing about spar

Either way, why is it a requirement to be good at something for you to understand how it works?

Understanding how it works is how you get good at something, so there's a correlation there. Therefore, people who are good at the game often know how it works better than those who don't interact much with the PvP aspect. It's the same reason why some people don't see slight differences in speed, while many sparrers can.

Buffalo 04-08-2016 07:34 PM

HA!!

Yog 04-08-2016 07:35 PM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 693406)
Understanding how it works is how you get good at something, so there's a correlation there. Therefore, people who are good at the game often know how it works better than those who don't interact much with the PvP aspect. It's the same reason why some people don't see slight differences in speed, while many sparrers can.

I never said someone who spars isn't going to know about spar. That doesn't make any sense. Of course there's a correlation between understanding something and being good at it. What do you think I meant? Sparrers are just randomly slashing their swords crossing their fingers for a win?

It's definitely possible to know how something works, without being good at it. Just because someone doesn't have a 1000+ win ratio doesn't mean they don't understand sparring.

CM 04-08-2016 10:10 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 693396)
Because if you're **** at what you do, you effect yourself and everyone around you.

In all honesty I don't see how 90% of the sparers that represent themselves on this website would be any better at patrolling than the current staff members.

Kuz 04-08-2016 10:15 PM

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Posted by Yog (Post 693425)
I never said someone who spars isn't going to know about spar. That doesn't make any sense. Of course there's a correlation between understanding something and being good at it. What do you think I meant? Sparrers are just randomly slashing their swords crossing their fingers for a win?

It's definitely possible to know how something works, without being good at it. Just because someone doesn't have a 1000+ win ratio doesn't mean they don't understand sparring.

There's a reason majority of the spar community don't mind someone like Fulgore patrolling the arena...he's someone who's been in the spar community for a while...I think we'd all prefer more people like him monitoring the arena instead of some random Zanza member...I mean lets take for example lag...i'm sure many people have faced someone who's frozen and when they unfreeze they move really fast around the arena for a small while...someone like Fulgore would probably understand it's just due to lag but one of your random admins would probably assume it's speed hacking...

Not having a go against the other admins but having some people like Thallen/Fulgore/Jack/James/Relic/Kosma/Tego etc. who have been playing for a while as admin to monitor spars would be more beneficial and make more sense than having a random person since they understand spar better. Wouldn't you agree?

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Posted by CM (Post 693472)
In all honesty I don't see how 90% of the sparers that represent themselves on this website would be any better at patrolling than the current staff members.

Majority of sparrers including myself probably probably aren't the best people to monitor spars...I mean lots of sparrers always throw hacking/longsword other accusations at each other in rage, but as mentioned above experienced players of the game who know the spar mechanics well would make better admins to patrol spars than some random sparrers or current admins.

Bryan* 04-08-2016 10:43 PM

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Posted by CM (Post 693472)
In all honesty I don't see how 90% of the sparers that represent themselves on this website would be any better at patrolling than the current staff members.


Then focus on the 10%. Majority of Classic GP's are categorized as a social/family tea party type of players. Meaning little to none experience in the other aspects of Classic. Pretty simple, quit talking gibberish via guild chat and start getting familiar with the other activities in Classic (PK, Spar, Towering, etc).
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Like Kuz mentioned, there's players out there that are well equipped to know the fundamentals and mechanics of what differentiates a player with their connection in a match.

Fulgore 04-08-2016 10:44 PM

:cool

CM 04-08-2016 10:59 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 693480)
Meaning little to none experience in the other aspects of Classic. Pretty simple, quit talking gibberish via guild chat and start getting familiar with the other activities in Classic (PK, Spar, Towering, etc).

Oh no, people have different interests than you so they shouldn't be GPs.

Also, nice usage of generalization and making it as if all social players know nothing about PKing, sparring, or towering.

Striken 04-08-2016 11:01 PM

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Posted by CM (Post 693490)
Oh no, people have different interests than you so they shouldn't be GPs.

Also, nice usage of generalization and making it as if all social players know nothing about PKing, sparring, or towering.

Knowing, is different than partaking and having experience.

CM you're still the same old asskisser per usual.

Red 04-08-2016 11:04 PM

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Posted by CM (Post 693490)
Oh no, people have different interests than you so they shouldn't be GPs.

Also, nice usage of generalization and making it as if all social players know nothing about PKing, sparring, or towering.


You are probably the dumbest GP that uses this forum, what I'm trying to say and what Bryan is trying to say is that MOST gp staff members are the social tea party type of players, most of them are hired off of there clean ban records because all they do is afk and spam guild chat.

Gonna leave this quote here because it is pretty much saying what I think
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Posted by Kosiris (Post 693474)
that's pretty radical lol. I'm worried that Milo is actually considering this; if what you listed as intentional lagging was true then a lot of people would be punished. not all people have steady or reliable connections & above all that connections are complicated and there are many factors that contribute to latency fluctuations.


By the way CM that thread you made saying you were sorry for how you act on these forums obviously hasn't affected you at all you're still a stubborn little kid when it comes to these topics.


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