you heard him! get unhyped everyone and put that expectation bar on the ground.

I think the community should be used to that by now, no worries there :giggle:

I still want to see what will be added, but with posts like that it just makes it look like it's "Not gonna be much."

Should say, "We are excited to bring this new update. We know that players have been asking for a lot of these things, and we want to let you know that we hear you."

If there are still issues, then let the players decide that for themselves.

Not really though, since everyone loved Destiny, loved the recent GST hats, loved the new GSing room, loved the leaderboard rewards, loved Mire Mart, loved additional outfit colors, loved the War Room, loved the new customization menu, and so on...

But you just keep sitting on these forums, not even actively playing Graal, spreading that negatively all because no one can see that Zz FATAL zZ achieved 2000 tower hours like 5 years ago, even though no one (except you) cares!

I think it is over-hyped and fp4 is not completely joking, but I don't think the post that you quoted implied the things you're taking from it. It doesn't matter what is done to guilds, a culture is needed to be changed to achieve the desired outcome of what a lot of forum users are posting about. You can't just change a few things system-wise and expect it to all fall into place, and that is what I was saying in that post. There is work to be done by both the staff and the players.

@majority of that.. Yeahyeah you keep telling yourself that.

Quick question if not overhyped does that mean the fort times are actually staying? and point system is like bitpart seperate to it?

where is the correlation

http://puu.sh/paNEj/a08dbed1dd.png
where's it at

anyway, I don't see any reason why tower times would be removed, hidden, or whatever you're implying

I was meaning that it doesn't sound as drastic as it first did, dickhead.

I quoted your post, because thallen said that there might not be a full update on the first day of release, but that things will be added and changed to the system periodically. I was wondering if he thought of that, because of your post.


What are the issues? Only one's I can think of.

Hat chasing?
Never really cared about this, if you want a hat, no big deal. Do what you want really.

People getting kicked and not receiving a reward for all their hard efforts?
Point reduction penalty would fix that. Points could be based off of kills, guild spar wins, attacking/healing the flag, any other guild related activity.

Dedicated guild houses?
Probably won't be added, but would have been nice for a leader to give guild members powers to buy, and add furniture. Have the guild house open to everyone who has that guild tag (Even when off tag). I have seen guilds farm for each other/farm together. Obviously it didn't last more than a few days, because the gralats didn't count for the whole group.

Players getting stacked teams on a low points tag just to drop a high points guild?
Why not restrict people by only allowing them to register to one guild, which allows them to rank gs. If you want to gs with non-teammates or cat off tag in order to not lose points, then go to belle.

If those aren't the issues, then what are they? "You"

how do you know? You haven't played iclassic in literally years how would you know anything about this update other than speculation and rumors that are not grounded in any kind of proof? It hasn't even come out yet.


@everyone

just shut up and wait till the guild system comes out then give your opinion on it. Until then you're commenting on something you don't know anything about. Seems like a massive waste of time. I'm sure staff has taken anything that has already been said into consideration, just let it happen.

Have you even read stuff from what rufus just said x_x He himself says he thinks it's over-hyped.(So on that statement, it would be better for players to expect less) P.S. You have no idea if I play or not, just because my oldold 2accounts haven't been played on for years doesn't mean I don't have alt accounts under different name.

Oh boy, here we go again... :rolleyes:

You can call me a dickhead, but am I the one who dedicates half of my posts to insulting, discouraging, and disrespecting the iClassic development staff?

It requires good guild leaders and members to make adequate use of the system... By my experience, iClassic has very few of those.

I can already tell people don't really get it yet, because there are numerous guilds towering right now claiming that they will officially "start" when the new system launches. They seem to be under the impression that it's going to be the same ol' create 5 subs and then spam recruit and kick. It won't be. When they realize that, I guarantee they are going to complain instead of adapt. That's going to give all of you this impression that it's a bad system, when the reality is that they are just bad players who can't comprehend how it works.

They'll slowly start to see how the better guilds and better leaders are running their guild and then they'll start to change and adapt, and then everything will fall into place.

Are you staff now? as you seem to have a hell of alot of influence in the update matter or someone leaking info, aww tut tut..anyways :giggle:

If anything I think if redrum make a remake again they will do very well, I think back in the day they never used allies(once they bought that out) and stuck with like 15main players, pretty sure a few are still playing. and they good sparrers and at doing forts.. I reckon the more friendbased squads are likely to become the better guilds-depending on there activeness though.