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G Fatal 07-25-2017 04:51 AM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 791199)
As much as I disagree with this guy generally...

Then you’re part of the problem.

+ what Shmegg said.. Hat updates do not take dev’s away from doing an actual update ffs, y’all have gfx/levels/scripters etc in your team okay sure you might be low but you got different jobs so saying because we need to make ton of hats as an excuse for barely making something different from the usual updates(that staff have gone off that rota for years) is BS.

Jjj'Chronos 07-25-2017 03:55 PM

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Posted by Areo (Post 791226)
Working on a game for free must mean that you care.

Doesn't matter if it's free or not, if you do not connect with your community it's pointless. Name 3 times you seen a dev create content for the community, because the community wanted it, and did it in a fashionable time.

Areo 07-25-2017 04:27 PM

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Posted by Jjj'Chronos (Post 791274)
Doesn't matter if it's free or not, if you do not connect with your community it's pointless. Name 3 times you seen a dev create content for the community, because the community wanted it, and did it in a fashionable time.

I've seen plenty of instances where Dusty has been able to implement something from the "minor suggestions" thread in less than a day. Back in 2015 Rufus (or another dev) created the little quest exclamation mark after someone suggested it, and it only took a few days.

The issue is also the fact that the community simply doesn't have much they want that's actually practical. Outside of the NGS, the community suggestions and wants things that tend to be something that doesn't fit within graal's scope or are just plain illogical. Even after multiple explanations from our dev's, some of the community still posts stuff like #AllTimeLeaderboards or #CTF for little reason. Most of the people who ask for CTF back never even used it before. It was pretty boring and repetitive, and there was rarely anyone to play against outside of a noob who wandered in. The most "useful" thing about it was boosting off of it, for certain players. The community doesn't say that many good suggestions.


Also, you can't use the words "fashionable time" as if they are objective and not subjective. Personally the development speed doesn't tend to bother me, because I understand that there are only two developers who are using a broken scripting language. So our definitions of "fashionable time" are likely very different given the circumstances.

Saeed 07-25-2017 05:44 PM

In addition, it's not like those three developers are working full time on graal. Fp4 isn't very active, Dusty opens +24 hours weekly and coco is a bit less active than Dusty. With those few developers and the little amount of hours (compared to full time job) they're putting towards the game, they released a lot of updates. I personally wouldn't work more than 3 hours on a day for free so, I don't blame them. Although we all hate that the towering system was removed and not replaced (yet), there isn't much we/developers can do. But, I wish they done a temporary fix to the towering system such as:making players lose points for kicking and you need 2000 hours for 1k hat (just an example). At least till they are done with the NGS but, I'm gonna assume they had their reasons.

MisterFace 07-25-2017 06:02 PM

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Posted by Jjj'Chronos (Post 791274)
Doesn't matter if it's free or not, if you do not connect with your community it's pointless. Name 3 times you seen a dev create content for the community, because the community wanted it, and did it in a fashionable time.

kek if theres hardly anyone working on it ofc theyre not going to get it done in time.

Red 07-26-2017 01:40 AM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 791243)
Then you’re part of the problem.

+ what Shmegg said.. Hat updates do not take dev’s away from doing an actual update ffs, y’all have gfx/levels/scripters etc in your team okay sure you might be low but you got different jobs so saying because we need to make ton of hats as an excuse for barely making something different from the usual updates(that staff have gone off that rota for years) is BS.

Guy who dosent actually play graal at all is attempting to argue about something he himself has no experience in.


You continue to embaress yourself with every post good job dude.


My question for you, why are you using a forum for graal when you don't even play it.

Howl 07-26-2017 02:08 AM

hat updates are ****

G Fatal 07-26-2017 04:50 AM

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Posted by Red (Post 791328)
Guy who dosent actually play graal at all is attempting to argue about something he himself has no experience in.

Clearly doesn’t*** know what he’s speaking about..Said million times that I play on different accounts not played on my main accounts for years but hey if you push a little bit you might even drop out of that sparrers arse you buried yourself into.

Aguzo 07-26-2017 03:39 PM

I don't think hat updates get in the way of any new content, since Dusty is the only one who does both jobs. fp4 is the head scripter from what can be seen, and he isn't doing any gfx, so no one is really "wasting time on other things."

There needs to be new hats rolled out more often than any real content. How else would they make money? You're gonna buy gralat packs to talk to your friends? That didn't work out so well on PC.

The game is free... instead of forcing people to buy overpriced weapons in order to have a competitive edge, they give you optional cosmetics. I don't see how you can complain 24/7 when no one is forcing you to buy hats.

They don't do any "idea surveys", because most players don't have any practical ideas. They might suggest things like "lower hat prices", "have 24 GPs monitor battle arena", or "a support site that will unban me, after I made that highly racial/insensitive comment."

TL;DR
If you're bored, find something else to do. Nobody should be at fault when you have thousands of hours logged in the game, and can't find something new/enjoyable.

4-Lom 07-27-2017 05:15 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 791359)
I don't think ...

Lighten up, man, it's just a game.

Reemas 07-27-2017 06:24 AM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 791434)
Lighten up, man, it's just a game.

LIES!!! This game is life!!

Aguzo 07-27-2017 06:25 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 791359)
TL;DR
If you're bored, find something else to do.

If you aren't enjoying the game, there are other options out there.
All I did was explain that only 1-2 people make any big changes
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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 791434)
Lighten up, man, it's just a game.

but you do you man

Sies 07-27-2017 08:29 AM

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Posted by Agonee (Post 790794)
They changed things cause they weren't perfect

yeah but then they somehow managed to make it worse

titter 07-27-2017 06:31 PM

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Posted by Sies (Post 791448)
yeah but then they somehow managed to make it worse

the emoji hats are sick though, glad those were added

Ethacon 07-27-2017 08:57 PM

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Posted by titter (Post 791468)
the emoji hats are sick though, glad those were added

But they have a line of failure clearly visible on the hat and they look like knock off emojis using the name emoji.


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