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Fulgore 10-25-2017 07:26 PM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 799328)
No, As I said, The quality of experience also matters.
Thallen and Sarah have a higher amount of quality experience, They go to take that leap to spar people who can be a challenge, And not worry about spar score as. Priority. And also as I said the person itself.

If a SST happened right now I'd be willing to bet Alexx would win.because he not only is the most experienced this season but also has higher quality experience.

And if your asking what I mean by quality, Just think of it like this.

Who is going to be better.

Someone who sparred at Balamb 10K times versus someone who sparred in arena 1000 times? One clearly has the better quality experience.



I just didn't have much want to join the forum. People in game filled my time

You can't just retract the statement from leaderboards to argue from marginal cases like that lmao. You said that the leaderboards alone are a good indicator of who would win. Thal and Sarah aren't there. Therefore, in your model, they wouldn't do well vs the people who are on it. Alexx has a good chance in it as well, not because of his activity this season, but because he's just good at spar. Those are mutually exclusive.

ShivGraal 10-25-2017 08:45 PM

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Posted by Saeed (Post 799327)
Okay let's say the best sparer didn't play enough this season to get himself in the leaderboard, does that make the #1 player in the leaderbaord better than him because he is more active? The gold trophy means they done the best this season. Just because no one else bothered to spar or was busy in other factors of the game or maybe even inactive, this doesn't mean they are worse than the people ranked in the leader board.

Nah but for my money, man, I'm taking the guy with the trophy.

Rusix 10-25-2017 09:41 PM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 799329)
You can't just retract the statement from leaderboards to argue from marginal cases like that lmao. You said that the leaderboards alone are a good indicator of who would win. Thal and Sarah aren't there. Therefore, in your model, they wouldn't do well vs the people who are on it. Alexx has a good chance in it as well, not because of his activity this season, but because he's just good at spar. Those are mutually exclusive.

I didn't retract my statement, I just don't think you fully understand my statement.

For one, As I said. Quality of experience, Amount of experience, And the general person in their capabilities depend on how good they are. That's why the 1st place participant in a spar season is likely to win.

Because
1.) They have obtained more experience in general.
2.) Most likely, unless they side roomed to 1# which is extremely unlikely due to the fact it would take longer, They also would have better quality of experience.
3.) Given the fact they are 1#, Shows that they have particularly a more desire to spar than others. And given that they try so hard shows they are more than likely capable of being more strategic to meet their goals.

Yes I know this wouldn't always be the case. I'm not saying 1# place wins 100%, But would without a doubt be more likely than others by a good margin. Especially when people like Alexx literally has almost twice the season wins than Gabriel. Who is 2#.would we really expect Alexx to lose? If not atleast make it to 2#?


As I said, Quality of experience, Amount of experience, And the general person add up to how good you can be. And usually the 1st place holder has a good bit of all these traits.

Fulgore 10-25-2017 11:42 PM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 799340)
I didn't retract my statement, I just don't think you fully understand my statement.

For one, As I said. Quality of experience, Amount of experience, And the general person in their capabilities depend on how good they are. That's why the 1st place participant in a spar season is likely to win.

Because
1.) They have obtained more experience in general.
2.) Most likely, unless they side roomed to 1# which is extremely unlikely due to the fact it would take longer, They also would have better quality of experience.
3.) Given the fact they are 1#, Shows that they have particularly a more desire to spar than others. And given that they try so hard shows they are more than likely capable of being more strategic to meet their goals.

Yes I know this wouldn't always be the case. I'm not saying 1# place wins 100%, But would without a doubt be more likely than others by a good margin. Especially when people like Alexx literally has almost twice the season wins than Gabriel. Who is 2#.would we really expect Alexx to lose? If not atleast make it to 2#?


As I said, Quality of experience, Amount of experience, And the general person add up to how good you can be. And usually the 1st place holder has a good bit of all these traits.

Take last season then as another example.

Kaios at the top of the leaderboards. Throw in Thallen, Sarah, Alexx, Dante, Exalt, Pt, Zid, Brett, myself, etc. (many of which were not that high on the leaderboards, or on them at all)

Kaios is not favored in any way, shape, or form to win that tournament, and no sane person would argue otherwise. Clear example of why that's a faulty way of thinking about it.

Not even sure if you're just trolling now since you're just repeating things you've said instead of actually respond to the examples but I'll bite anyway.

ShivGraal 10-26-2017 12:26 AM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 799351)
Take last season then as another example.

Kaios at the top of the leaderboards. Throw in Thallen, Sarah, Alexx, Dante, Exalt, Pt, Zid, Brett, myself, etc. (many of which were not that high on the leaderboards, or on them at all)

Kaios is not favored in any way, shape, or form to win that tournament, and no sane person would argue otherwise. Clear example of why that's a faulty way of thinking about it.

Not even sure if you're just trolling now since you're just repeating things you've said instead of actually respond to the examples but I'll bite anyway.

It was his trophy. He was-number one!

Rusix 10-26-2017 01:09 AM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 799351)
Take last season then as another example.

Kaios at the top of the leaderboards. Throw in Thallen, Sarah, Alexx, Dante, Exalt, Pt, Zid, Brett, myself, etc. (many of which were not that high on the leaderboards, or on them at all)

Kaios is not favored in any way, shape, or form to win that tournament, and no sane person would argue otherwise. Clear example of why that's a faulty way of thinking about it.

Not even sure if you're just trolling now since you're just repeating things you've said instead of actually respond to the examples but I'll bite anyway.

As I said before, It doesn't 100% mean they will win. And it is only a sign they possess all the best spar traits which would FAVOR them being more likely to have won if such occurred. I'm starting to think your not even reading what I'm saying or fully understanding it

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Posted by ShivGraal (Post 799352)
It was his trophy. He was-number one!

No, I wasn't?

TeK 10-26-2017 06:44 AM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 799356)
...it is only a sign they possess all the best spar traits which would FAVOR them being more likely to have won if such occurred.

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 799351)
Kaios is not favored in any way, shape, or form to win that tournament, and no sane person would argue otherwise.

Rusix is insane confirmed

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Posted by Jimbo (Post 799273)
Who are you to talk, what kind of loser brags about winning 3rd
Shut your mouth and dont post anymore

On another note, this coming from the guy who spent the entire next season bragging to me about finally placing third after years of trying from countless countries...

Jimbo 10-26-2017 07:29 AM

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Posted by TeK (Post 799381)
Rusix is insane confirmed


On another note, this coming from the guy who spent the entire next season bragging to me about finally placing third after years of trying from countless countries...

Nobody bragged you dumbass
But you were crying on forums about your loss, there is a difference

Honestly you can talk on forum but on the field you suck and you dont stand a chance

Darkk 10-26-2017 10:00 AM

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Posted by Jimbo (Post 799388)
Nobody bragged you dumbass
But you were crying on forums about your loss, there is a difference

Honestly you can talk on forum but on the field you suck and you dont stand a chance

I’m pretty sure Tek reached the finals once, something you have failed to accomplish

*braces for 12 month old screenshots*

Rusix 10-26-2017 12:38 PM

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Posted by TeK (Post 799381)
Rusix is insane confirmed


On another note, this coming from the guy who spent the entire next season bragging to me about finally placing third after years of trying from countless countries...

I been insane, thank you

TeK 10-26-2017 08:40 PM

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Posted by Jimbo (Post 799388)
Nobody bragged you dumbass
But you were crying on forums about your loss, there is a difference

Honestly you can talk on forum but on the field you suck and you dont stand a chance

Lol **** the all-knowing Jimbo says I suck, might as well quit now ._.

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Posted by Darkk (Post 799392)
I’m pretty sure Tek reached the finals once, something you have failed to accomplish

The finals have eluded me thus far, but (unlike Jimbo):
  • I don't cry about it 24/7
  • I don't think I'm some sort of God who should make it to every final whatsoever
  • I’ve still probably outplaced him twice as often in half the time, without a VPN, not that this is anything too significant to brag about ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Jimbo 10-26-2017 09:26 PM

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Posted by TeK (Post 799461)
Lol **** the all-knowing Jimbo says I suck, might as well quit now ._.



The finals have eluded me thus far, but (unlike Jimbo):
  • I don't cry about it 24/7
  • I don't think I'm some sort of God who should make it to every final whatsoever
  • I’ve still probably outplaced him twice as often in half the time, without a VPN, not that this is anything too significant to brag about ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

First of all I think you are better than Dark but you still suck, being better than Dark is like being better than a baddy.
Also the only reason you went to finals is due to my mixed entrance, otherwise you be crying again without a hat probably.

I am a skilled gser and sparrer and I dont think anyone measures up to my level. And thats that + its funny how you keep coming with vpn conspiracies

Nanner 10-26-2017 09:37 PM

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Posted by Jimbo (Post 799469)
being better than Dark is like being better than a baddy.

Shots fired

TeK 10-26-2017 09:38 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcO_BtIUMAAWria.jpg

Darkk 10-26-2017 09:48 PM

Imo Jumbo is average at best and that’s coming from the player who holds the longest idevice GST win streak of all time.

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Posted by Jimbo (Post 799469)
vpn conspiracies

Vpn conspiracies? Didn’t Shad (former Male member) already confirm that you ban evaded and vpned in the season I beat you single handedly lmaoo


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