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GOAT 11-27-2017 08:08 AM

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Posted by Shmegg (Post 802304)
Pointing out the irony in his statement.

If you want to play that game, I’m not pointing out the irony in your statement.

Shmegg 11-27-2017 08:29 AM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 802305)
If you want to play that game, I’m not pointing out the irony in your statement.

pay $5 to unlock this message

Ryan 11-27-2017 09:00 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 802301)
Surprisingly, there are downsides to Trump being impeached...
  • Pence will be the president
  • Trump will probably pull the ol Nixon switcheroo and just have Pence grant him amnesty
  • If that doesn't happen and we try to prosecute him he will probs flee to Russia where he can finish up selling Putin our secrets
  • Pence will be the president; remember that this man literally believes you can electrocute the gay out of people.

https://i.imgur.com/KqAB9Jm.jpg

Eugeen 11-27-2017 12:26 PM

You americans better protect my nut neutrality

TomatoPanda 11-27-2017 03:56 PM

To many sjw liberals in this thread for me bye hope you all lose your internet or not idc what happens as long as we dont turn into NK

Ghettoicedtea 11-27-2017 08:00 PM

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Posted by Shmegg (Post 802304)
Pointing out the irony in his statement.

Well hes not wrong. Its a half truth, there are a lot of big tech companies (google, facebook, amazon etc)that are runned by democrats and a lot are also runned by republicans.

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Posted by Ryan (Post 802308)

Lmao if Mike Pence is president he's going to drop an elctroshock bomb on your country cause y'all legalised gay marriage.

5hift 11-27-2017 09:04 PM

Lmao this thread is lacking some chromosomes

Areo 11-27-2017 09:15 PM

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Posted by Ximithie (Post 802334)
Do people actually still think the Russians interfered with the u.s.a election please Im getting sick of all this fake bs.

They do, and with good reason.

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

This is a direct government source. A paraphrase of it would largely state “The United States Intelligence Community concluded, with high confidence, that the Russian government engaged in electoral interference during the 2016 U.S. presidential election.” This is not fake news. I’m not sure what told you that the story is fake news, but I would be interested to know because the only person calling it fake is our president or his associates, and they shouldn’t be trusted in this case because their conflict of interests is incredibly obvious.

Ryan 11-27-2017 10:52 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 802342)
Well hes not wrong. Its a half truth, there are a lot of big tech companies (google, facebook, amazon etc)that are runned by democrats and a lot are also runned by republicans.



Lmao if Mike Pence is president he's going to drop an elctroshock bomb on your country cause y'all legalised gay marriage.

good

Areo 11-28-2017 03:17 PM

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Posted by Ximithie (Post 802369)
Seems fair enough but it could be a Democratic site also just give the man a chance give him 4 years republicans didn’t like Obama in office but they gave him a chance America is about giving chances if trump does horrible in office for 4 years I’m sure many of the republicans would go agasint him as well then I do like the Republican Party and I do believe that there were better presidents then trump I’m not saying he’s the worst one I just think he needs a chance to keep his campaign promises.

It is not a Democratic Party website. It is a government domain, and it is the director of national intelligence. Please don’t say it could be a democratic website when it takes just a second to find that is not true. I’ve said nothing about “giving him a chance” or not to. I’m merely saying the story has merit and should not be ignored, and if it turns out (IF) he did collude he should be impeached immediately.

Besides that, i don’t have to give him a chance for him to do his job. This isn’t a real democracy, it’s a representative one. Now that he is in I have little physical control over what goes on. It isn’t like I personally can call for votes on legislation he passes. So no one should feel obligated to give him a chance.

Ethacon 11-28-2017 03:55 PM

AKA not a thread to read through if you are seeking entertainment and not something that will make you bored out of your mind. It's also not a thread to read if you don't want to see people argue.

GOAT 11-29-2017 03:38 AM

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Posted by ethacon (Post 802389)
AKA not a thread to read through if you are seeking entertainment and not something that will make you bored out of your mind. It's also not a thread to read if you don't want to see people argue.

Wait until GIT really gets triggered. Popcorn time

Ethacon 11-29-2017 01:20 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 802416)
Wait until GIT really gets triggered. Popcorn time

already got the butter.

Ghettoicedtea 11-30-2017 01:53 AM

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Posted by Areo (Post 802346)
They do, and with good reason.

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

This is a direct government source. A paraphrase of it would largely state “The United States Intelligence Community concluded, with high confidence, that the Russian government engaged in electoral interference during the 2016 U.S. presidential election.” This is not fake news. I’m not sure what told you that the story is fake news, but I would be interested to know because the only person calling it fake is our president or his associates, and they shouldn’t be trusted in this case because their conflict of interests is incredibly obvious.

buddy you need to actually read the entire thing. This is a document with accusations not definite proof. When you hear things like
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We assess with high confidence that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election, the consistent goals of which were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate SecretaryClinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump. When it appeared to Moscow that Secretary Clinton was likely to win the election, theRussian influence campaign then focused on undermining her expected presidency.
We assess with high confidence means we strongly believe, therefore an accusation and not proof. Also in the document they do not talk about how it is done other than the words "hacking" and "cyber tools" and do not go into details. They just give some blanket statement and do not go into details. Then say classified because they know its nothing.
Also another dead giveaway is "Secretary Clinton was likely to win the election" She never had a clear win. All the people who said MUH HILLARY LANDSLIDE clearly never went outside of cities or blue suburbs and went out and traveled and talked to people in the USA enough.
This is worded like a prosecution in a court case, not a report on evidence found. If you want what a conclusion of collective evidence sounds like, listen to James Comey's verdict on the Hillary Clinton email scandal.

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Posted by Areo (Post 802385)
Besides that, i don’t have to give him a chance for him to do his job. This isn’t a real democracy, it’s a representative one

>A representative democracy is not a real democracy
That's almost as good as the statement of "Socialism works"

Areo 11-30-2017 02:39 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 802466)
buddy you need to actually read the entire thing. This is a document with accusations not definite proof. When you hear things like
We assess with high confidence means we strongly believe, therefore an accusation and not proof. Also in the document they do not talk about how it is done other than the words "hacking" and "cyber tools" and do not go into details. They just give some blanket statement and do not go into details. Then say classified because they know its nothing.
Also another dead giveaway is "Secretary Clinton was likely to win the election" She never had a clear win. All the people who said MUH HILLARY LANDSLIDE clearly never went outside of cities or blue suburbs and went out and traveled and talked to people in the USA enough.

I didn’t say it was proof of collusion... I’m merely saying the story of Russian interference is not fake news. I’m not arguing about what it means, I’m saying that it happened. Just because they did not go into detail does not mean those details do not exist. I’m also not concerned about whether Hillary would’ve won or not; I’m worried about how our elections results were interfered with, regardless of who won. This is about election integrity.

Also, the intelligence committee uses the phrase “high confidence” as in analytic confidence.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytic_confidence
“High confidence generally indicates judgments based on high-quality information, and/or the nature of the issue makes it possible to render a solid judgment. A “high confidence” judgment is not a fact or a certainty, however, and still carries a risk of being wrong” so I trust the judgement and what is implied.

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 802466)
This is worded like a prosecution in a court case, not a report on evidence found. If you want what a conclusion of collective evidence sounds like, listen to James Comey's verdict on the Hillary Clinton email scandal.

I’m not arguing about Hillary Clinton. I believe that her crimes and feelings of being “above the law” stand in plain sight, and we don’t need to bring them up in this conversation. Besides this, there is evidence of Russian troll accounts on Facebook posting political messages... that is clearly another country attempting to interfere with an election.
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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 802466)
>A representative democracy is not a real democracy
That's almost as good as the statement of "Socialism works"

I’ll leave this obvious bait statement alone, it has no real connection to what was being said. However, I will add one more statement to my previous one; when national estimates say that 75~ percent of individuals are in favor of Net Neutrality and we are still pushing toward a repeal I think that speaks for itself about how much we are represented.


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