Posted by Rusix (Post 812272)

Who cares if it's Barbaric? The person literally went into a school and shot up a school. It wouldn't make the government weak, Just would mean our methods are different. Hell we even torture and waterbomb and do other things to terrorist, Some of which never successfully killed someone so we get information out of them. If you shot up schools and take people's innocent lives for no real good reason. Setting an example with public torture would probably teach people that this is what they would get it they caused such a terrible crime. People wouldnt need to live in fear, Unless they plan to shoot up schools. Though it isn't legal to torture people on America's ground. It can be taken out of America to do so.

Posted by Hadzz (Post 812268)

If you were gonna make a blatant troll post you could of at least made it funny.

Posted by Chance* (Post 812287)

So you are basically saying you want to stoop down to the criminals level. What I am getting from this thread is you want to stop gun violence by adding more guns, and end violence by being more violent.

If the US were to hold public executions, many foreign nations would not take it lightly. Possibly imposing sanctions crippling the US economy.

Posted by Ximithie (Post 812205)

People can also get murdered with rocks if you stone them to death damn does this mean we have to ban rocks too now or how about we ban knives as well and a cooking pan too! Lots of things can be used as a weapon just saying banning guns will just make the problem worse.

Posted by Rusix (Post 812283)

It's stupid to compare the punisher to the person who done the act. Their motives are completely different. You're literally saying the U.S government is terrible because they'd be punishing someone who killed innocent children for no real good reason. I don't know why we live in such a soft generation of people who think that just because you ******* killed several kids with a shot gun that you shouldn't get some serious punishment for that. Or that the government would be weak for wanting to do such. Or how wanting the people who want them to face punishments they deserve makes the people just as bad somehow?

I mean seriously why is our generation so damn soft that people are willing to let someone who done such a crime not get the punishment they deserve? All because apparently such methods only spread fear and terror....which is kinda the entire ****** point. Why would you not want people who could cause shootings in school and kill people not to be absolutely too terrified to do it? Are we apparently supposed to just allow school shooters feel pride in such a thing?

Posted by Hadzz (Post 812299)

The morality of executions aside you can't record it for the world to see. These shooters are trying to forge legacys, to put them on a pedestal for the world to see just solidifies that even more. Don't get confused in thinking that anybody would shed a tear If they died of natural causes. Killing them only soaks the executioners hand in blood, it achieves nothing else but that.

Posted by Darkk (Post 812294)

my city wouldn't be ranked the most liveable city in the world if guns were legal

and goddammit it, is rusix on every thread

Posted by MJ4 (Post 812292)

Lots of big incidents have happened in America because of a gun. Taking away guns will just make it more safe. It's a recurring incident so taking guns away would help a lot.

If the guns are banned/taken away, those who are caught holding a gun would be fined,

Posted by Ximithie (Post 812303)

oh first of all some people need guns to defend themselves I'm talking about the good guys if they have intruders they have the right to shoot them as far as I'm aware and second of all the criminals won't give up their guns so many countries have banned guns and their problems just went higher U.K. even went as far as now they want to ban knives also did you see the video of the U.K. Police struggling to arrest this one dude with a knife because they are not allowed to carry guns anymore skip to 4:09 to see the clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UG_N9H4XYY&t=346s

Posted by Rusix (Post 812302)

Legacy of what? That's a pretty crap legacy to leave behind being someone who shot up a school.And are you sure it achieves nothing more than "Soaking the executioners hand in blood"? So are you telling me if we was to torture people who do this kind of thing in the most painful way possible, That it would not be something that would rve n slightly make future school shooters think twice? Because I'd have to disagree with that.



Yes, And also who are you? Seems you don't like me that much but I don't even know who tf you are. Or very little, Pretty sure we never met or even talked to each other before

Posted by Areo (Post 812305)

Would you list those countries out for me? Let’s not just say “many countries” because that’s basically a proof surrogate. I’m not saying your wrong at all, but I do like seeing evidence and statistics where available.

About the United Kingdom; can you reference specific articles/statistics showing that things have gotten worse there? I have read a few articles about it and have seen that there was a decrease in gun violence years after the ban took place (which is to be expected, given that it isn’t like placing heavy restrictions on firearms would take effect right away). I read that recently a surge has happened, but the United Kingdom also has dwindling police force numbers... which seems like a far better correlation as to what has been happening to them more recently. So, yeah, if you’ve got articles or other information supporting your points I would really like to see it. You might have access to information I don’t. Aside from that, though, one video doesn’t really do it for me... I prefer more substantive evidence.

Posted by Ximithie (Post 812308)

I mean just look at the Soviet Union Stalin took the guns so did Hitler and Mao all communist and socialist leaders Also there is no way that the U.K. Is safer after the gun ban it became more dangerous almost every European country is dangerous now because of there stupid leaders and they all have open borders children and women are getting r*ped because of it now here is a site I found it may not be accurate its actually really hard to find any site accurate these days so you believe it if you want to https://crimeresearch.org/2013/12/mu...fter-gun-bans/ I couldnt find any stats from 2013-2018 since thats when the whole europe continent went to sh*t and people started dying.