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Loose Crow 11-03-2011 02:04 AM

I don't see why every one is hating on soulslayer. I could name a couple of sites that does the same thing and even has more heads and bodies... and I don't see any one hating on them...

Tyler 11-03-2011 02:36 AM

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Posted by Loose Crow (Post 29200)
I don't see why every one is hating on soulslayer. I could name a couple of sites that does the same thing and even has more heads and bodies... and I don't see any one hating on them...

By all means name them.

DragonRider 11-03-2011 03:03 AM

Asked him, "How much heads did you steal?" reply: "none."

Maikeru 11-09-2011 02:33 AM

Yea... Its back..
 
http://www.soulslayer-graal.info/
They're not giving up are they...

Rezon 11-09-2011 02:43 AM

LOL

Matt's head in girl section. (page 4)

Also stole callimuc's guide, I doubt callimuc gave him permission, LOLOLOL


http://www.soulslayer-graal.info/graalonline/disclaimer

it isn't that bad, IMO, this should just be treated as a fan site and not a database..

Higbey 11-09-2011 03:25 AM

That's it, I'm sending a email to the hosting site.

MrSimons 11-09-2011 05:16 AM

Hmm... No me gusta...

The fact that they hav sections for certain head makers stuff is kinda...(can't describe well without using foul mouthedness)

Tyler 11-09-2011 01:58 PM

I don't think they'll be giving up anytime soon unfortunatly.

Oswald 11-09-2011 02:16 PM

Well, i dont like how they could use their ifile on their ipod/iphone to get the bodies/head.

Like, i had a personal head before, and i walk into he spar arena, and there is someone with it.
Im all like, "what?" and then they said their friend made it.

I dont like that website.

callimuc 11-09-2011 05:27 PM

http://www.allmystery.de/i/twy5UID_epic_fail.jpg

Emera 11-09-2011 06:01 PM

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Posted by Maikeru (Post 31251)
http://www.soulslayer-graal.info/
They're not giving up are they...

Makes me laugh so hard to see this was copied from the Graal wiki page.

callimuc 11-09-2011 06:11 PM

Just saw this post:

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Posted by Rezon (Post 31256)
Also stole callimuc's guide, I doubt callimuc gave him permission, LOLOLOL

He didnīt give credits the first time until I PMīd him about that.
Quote:

credits goes to my kind friend callimuc from graalians forum
(didnīt know we are friends, just PMīd him about two times because of the credits)
Same for the tower taking guide (me and LiA).

Rufus 11-09-2011 06:13 PM

We had four different threads talking about the same site, how it has gone down, how it has came back. We only really need the one, so I've merged them into this.

callimuc 11-09-2011 06:17 PM

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Posted by Rufus (Post 31395)
We had four different threads talking about the same site, how it has gone down, how it has came back. We only really need the one, so I've merged them into this.

Good job ^^

BboyEatsbacon 11-09-2011 07:13 PM

Can't soulslayer.tk be shut down for copyright infringement? =o
He stole content (Graphics) from GraalOnline and uploaded them to a website without permission from Eurocenter or GraalOnline.

Quote:

Posted by Some News Article
Anyone committing copyright infringement is violating federal law, and are subject to fines ranging from $750 to $30,000 per infringement, as well as up to five years in jail.

All of that, over some nice graphics? I wouldn't risk it.

Kavan 11-09-2011 07:16 PM

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Posted by BboyEatsbacon (Post 31405)
Can't soulslayer.tk be shut down for copyright infringement? =o
He stole content (Graphics) from GraalOnline and uploaded them to a website without permission from Eurocenter or GraalOnline.

That exact same thought came into my mind as well.

DragonRider 11-10-2011 02:59 AM

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Posted by BboyEatsbacon (Post 31405)
Can't soulslayer.tk be shut down for copyright infringement? =o
He stole content (Graphics) from GraalOnline and uploaded them to a website without permission from Eurocenter or GraalOnline.


All of that, over some nice graphics? I wouldn't risk it.

Damn. That's pretty harsh. Someone needs to PM him about that.

Maikeru 11-10-2011 03:56 AM

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Posted by DragonRiderSux (Post 31546)
Damn. That's pretty harsh. Someone needs to PM him about that.

You're right about that i suppose..
Oh and btw...

+Rep

BboyEatsbacon 11-13-2011 04:10 AM

Quote:

Posted by Soulslayer-Graal.info Administrator
Hi there,

Thanks for your concern. We don't think we will be sued for distributing little graphics from a small Kids game, nor should we be > we haven't broken any copyright laws whatsoever.
Please read our Disclaimer to see what our intentions are.
try googling "graal bodies" or similar and you will get a nice list of sites similar to us.

Loose Crow


Higbey 11-13-2011 04:26 AM

Tell them to only use graphics people give them permission to.

Kavan 11-13-2011 01:50 PM

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Posted by BboyEatsBacon
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Originally Posted by Soulslayer-Graal.info Administrator
Hi there,

Thanks for your concern. We don't think we will be sued for distributing little graphics from a small Kids game, nor should we be > we haven't broken any copyright laws whatsoever.
Please read our Disclaimer to see what our intentions are.
try googling "graal bodies" or similar and you will get a nice list of sites similar to us.

Loose Crow

Are you sure?

MattKan 11-13-2011 02:20 PM

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Posted by Kavan (Post 32309)
Are you sure?

Yay :)

Higbey 11-13-2011 02:24 PM

It says /abused in the link?

Loose Crow 11-13-2011 02:37 PM

The website wasn't shut down due to "copyright or abuse". Dot tk (.tk) was the FREE domain that we were using. They have this common "parking scam" that when your site gets popular and receives allot of traffic they can shut your site down and benefit From the traffic. They have every right to because we don't actually own the domain as it was FREE.
Try googling "dot tk scam" there will be a few aticles about it , unfortunately we are one of them. Don't trust dot tk.

If you haven't noticed our new address is
http://soulslayer-graal.info

Kavan 11-13-2011 03:40 PM

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Posted by Loose Crow (Post 32323)
unfortunately we are one of them. Don't trust dot tk.

Serves you rightly!!!

BboyEatsbacon 11-13-2011 08:53 PM

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Posted by Loose Crow (Post 32323)
The website wasn't shut down due to "copyright or abuse". Dot tk (.tk) was the FREE domain that we were using. They have this common "parking scam" that when your site gets popular and receives allot of traffic they can shut your site down and benefit From the traffic. They have every right to because we don't actually own the domain as it was FREE.
Try googling "dot tk scam" there will be a few aticles about it , unfortunately we are one of them. Don't trust dot tk.

If you haven't noticed our new address is
http://soulslayer-graal.info

Has it ever came to your attention that you are stealing copyrighted graphics from a game that people have worked countless hours on?

People try very hard to create good graphics for the game, then they find countless websites with their graphic on it.

Imagine if you took months designing a blueprint for a house, then poof, someone had made copies of it and already made hundreds of houses from it. The house you have would lose it's uniqueness because of a thief.

Yes, it's bad enough the copyright infringement occurring here, but it's even worse that you're just giving out graphics to who knows who, and the original creator could've taken days-weeks for that one graphic, yet it only takes a few minutes to find that head on your website. (soulslayer-graal.info)

MattKan 11-13-2011 08:59 PM

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Posted by BboyEatsbacon (Post 32431)
Has it ever came to your attention that you are stealing copyrighted graphics from a game that people have worked countless hours on?

People try very hard to create good graphics for the game, then they find countless websites with their graphic on it.

Imagine if you took months designing a blueprint for a house, then poof, someone had made copies of it and already made hundreds of houses from it. The house you have would lose it's uniqueness because of a thief.

Yes, it's bad enough the copyright infringement occurring here, but it's even worse that you're just giving out graphics to who knows who, and the original creator could've taken days-weeks for that one graphic, yet it only takes a few minutes to find that head on your website. (soulslayer-graal.info)

Not to mention that you're copying and pasting guides from this website. It may not be illegal but it isn't right.

comet graal 11-13-2011 09:40 PM

Quote:

Posted by BboyEatsbacon (Post 32431)
Has it ever came to your attention that you are stealing copyrighted graphics from a game that people have worked countless hours on?

People try very hard to create good graphics for the game, then they find countless websites with their graphic on it.

Imagine if you took months designing a blueprint for a house, then poof, someone had made copies of it and already made hundreds of houses from it. The house you have would lose it's uniqueness because of a thief.

Yes, it's bad enough the copyright infringement occurring here, but it's even worse that you're just giving out graphics to who knows who, and the original creator could've taken days-weeks for that one graphic, yet it only takes a few minutes to find that head on your website. (soulslayer-graal.info)

BBoy. You are right to an extent. Sure it's cruel and dbagish to steal graphics that players spent 20 minutes(Not hours sorry) working on. The only people who really spend hours working on graphics are the GFX admins, and the people who make graphics for the game, not personal. Granted, it's not illegal to steal GFX. And copyright is only effective if the person infrindging is profiting off it. Soulslayer hasn't made a dime of those GFX. I have had my heads stolen, but atleast it wasn't any of my hats.
That's how I see it. And I still don't like soulslayer, at all.

Kavan 11-13-2011 09:53 PM

I just think that Soulslayer and his associates are pretty self-centered. I wouldn't mind as much if it were just heads and bodies they were uploading, I've come across a lot of websites doing this already, so I've come to accept that this can't be resolved.
It's the fact that they're stealing information and quest guides without receiving consent from the original author and without even crediting the author (they do this after they've been found out), even though they set up the website to do this sort of thing themselves, which also makes them somewhat lazy.

BboyEatsbacon 11-13-2011 09:57 PM

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Posted by comet graal (Post 32440)
BBoy. You are right to an extent. Sure it's cruel and dbagish to steal graphics that players spent 20 minutes(Not hours sorry) working on. The only people who really spend hours working on graphics are the GFX admins, and the people who make graphics for the game, not personal. Granted, it's not illegal to steal GFX. And copyright is only effective if the person infrindging is profiting off it. Soulslayer hasn't made a dime of those GFX. I have had my heads stolen, but atleast it wasn't any of my hats.
That's how I see it. And I still don't like soulslayer, at all.

So, if I copy MW3 and give it to a friend, it's not copyright infringement because I made no profit? Sweet, might as well do that now.

Also, take the heads the staff team wear, and the heads the really good GFX players wear, that's not 20 minute work, that's DAYS of work.

Higbey 11-13-2011 10:53 PM

Soulslayer website info!
 
Domain ID:D43096668-LRMS
Domain Name:SOULSLAYER-GRAAL.INFO
Created On:18-Oct-2011 02:17:58 UTC
Last Updated On:06-Nov-2011 00:47:26 UTC
Expiration Date:18-Oct-2012 02:17:58 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Internet.bs Corp. (R457-LRMS)
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:INTEd4qrzqdpwirj
Registrant Name:Private Whois soulslayer-graal.info
Registrant Organization:Private Whois soulslayer-graal.info
Registrant Street1:*******PLEASE DO NOT SEND LETTERS******
Registrant Street2:****Contact the owner by email only****
Registrant Street3:c/o soulslayer-graal.info
Registrant City:Nassau
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code:N4892
Registrant Country:BS
Registrant Phone:+852.81720004
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:[email protected] ivatewhois.net
Admin ID:INTEjsqcl9a1sd36
Admin Name:Private Whois soulslayer-graal.info
Admin Organization:Private Whois soulslayer-graal.info
Admin Street1:*******PLEASE DO NOT SEND LETTERS******
Admin Street2:****Contact the owner by email only****
Admin Street3:c/o soulslayer-graal.info
Admin City:Nassau
Admin State/Province:
Admin Postal Code:N4892
Admin Country:BS
Admin Phone:+852.81720004
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:[email protected] ivatewhois.net
Billing ID:INTEtz5nif690y42
Billing Name:Private Whois soulslayer-graal.info
Billing Organization:Private Whois soulslayer-graal.info
Billing Street1:*******PLEASE DO NOT SEND LETTERS******
Billing Street2:****Contact the owner by email only****
Billing Street3:c/o soulslayer-graal.info
Billing City:Nassau
Billing State/Province:
Billing Postal Code:N4892
Billing Country:BS
Billing Phone:+852.81720004
Billing Phone Ext.:
Billing FAX:
Billing FAX Ext.:
Billing Email:[email protected] ivatewhois.net
Tech ID:INTE9e23a4087ps1
Tech Name:Private Whois soulslayer-graal.info
Tech Organization:Private Whois soulslayer-graal.info
Tech Street1:*******PLEASE DO NOT SEND LETTERS******
Tech Street2:****Contact the owner by email only****
Tech Street3:c/o soulslayer-graal.info
Tech City:Nassau
Tech State/Province:
Tech Postal Code:N4892
Tech Country:BS
Tech Phone:+852.81720004
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:[email protected] ivatewhois.net
Name Server:KATE.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
Name Server:HUGH.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM

Kavan 11-13-2011 11:00 PM

IP: 199.27.134.41

monk 11-13-2011 11:00 PM

o_o

Twinny 11-13-2011 11:09 PM

Congratulations. You found public WHOIS information provided by a private registrar . Likely that phone number is a dummy or the private registrars own number. You can do all of nothing with this!

Loose Crow 11-13-2011 11:14 PM

STOP trying to sabotage our website. That information that u just vomited out is totataly useless and doesn't provide any infomation about our servers. We are just trying to help.

Higbey 11-13-2011 11:23 PM

http://support.cloudflare.com/

go here to submit a report about http://www.soulslayer-graal.info/ and how it steals content and graphics. if enough people do it we can get it taken down.

I have already provided this following report

Hello. I am aware that Cloudflare is the host of http://www.soulslayer-graal.info/, this website is stealing graphics and content without owner consent and should be taken down. it was previously hosted by .TK but they took it down for copyright abuse, SoulSlayer then went to you to host his site, and has continued his practice of stealing content and posting it. I know you will respond quickly to this situation and take down this offending site.

and twinny it gave me all i needed. now for the wordpress accounts.

BboyEatsbacon 11-13-2011 11:23 PM

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Posted by Loose Crow (Post 32468)
STOP trying to sabotage our website. That information that u just vomited out is totataly useless and doesn't provide any infomation about our servers. We are just trying to help.

You're promoting graphic theft. Yes, it's a community game, but if someone wanted to give their graphics away, they would give them away. They're named "personal" for a reason.

Twinny 11-13-2011 11:24 PM

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Posted by BboyEatsbacon (Post 32442)
So, if I copy MW3 and give it to a friend, it's not copyright infringement because I made no profit? Sweet, might as well do that now.

That is an absolutely terrible analogy. That's more a breach of contract (EULA, ToS) and piracy issues.

Copyright would be more like taking assets from inside the game and using them without Infinity Wards permission.

Loose Crow 11-13-2011 11:30 PM

Cloudflare is not our hosting provider . And for the last time the .tk was NOT taken down for copyright or abuse.

Just to let you know the ip address is not the true ip of our servers

Twinny 11-13-2011 11:39 PM

For future reference, here's a far easier way to do this stuff, Higbey. Two lines in a command prompt.

PHP Code:

//Ping to resolve record to IP address
>ping www.soulslayer-graal.info

Pinging soulslayer
-graal.info [199.27.134.41with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 199.27.134.41bytes=32 time=210ms TTL=50

Ping statistics 
for 199.27.134.41:
    
PacketsSent 1Received 1Lost (0loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    
Minimum 210msMaximum 210msAverage 210ms
Control
-C
^C

//Reverse DNS lookup using IP address

>nslookup 199.27.134.41  
Server
:  dns-cust.cht.bigpond.net.au.194.9.61.in-addr.arpa
Address
:  61.9.194.49

Name
:    cf-199-27-134-41.cloudflare.com
Address
:  199.27.134.41 

You went off nameservers but that's not necessarily where content is stored. Also, do not discuss website/server destruction.

Higbey 11-13-2011 11:47 PM

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Posted by Loose Crow
Cloudflare is not our hosting provider . And for the last time the .tk was NOT taken down for copyright or abuse.

If it wasn't then it should have been. And according to this the server is by cloudflare.

I will not tolerate sites that allow people to steal others work. Callimuc is not soulslayers friend, and the fact that he had to talk to him before he gave him credit is bad enough. We have told you again and again to only post content that the owners give you permission to post. Your site is causing alot of problems, and if your not going to change then we will take action.

Higbey 11-13-2011 11:56 PM

anyway, we asked kindly, we tried, but if you will continue to steal players content and post content without the owners consent we will have to take action.

Tyler 11-14-2011 12:17 AM

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Posted by Loose Crow (Post 32468)
STOP trying to sabotage our website. That information that u just vomited out is totataly useless and doesn't provide any infomation about our servers. We are just trying to help.

Lol "help"? There are shields with anti SoulSlayer all over Graal. They seem to have gotten quite popular. If you want to help, you can remove all the graphics you stole and other stuff such as guides that you took. The only people who are satisifed with the graphics section are the people who just recolor things, people with no talent who like to steal customs, and the trolls.

iHot 11-14-2011 12:38 AM

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Posted by TylerMysTe (Post 32490)
Lol "help"? There are shields with anti SoulSlayer all over Graal. They seem to have gotten quite popular. If you want to help, you can remove all the graphics you stole and other stuff such as guides that you took. The only people who are satisifed with the graphics section are the people who just recolor things, people with no talent who like to steal customs, and the trolls.

I do agree about the fact the site should be taken down i mean now they have a shield section. But on the whole recolor noob thing i disagree some people may not be patient or know how to do the graphic thing so they resort to stealing and recoloring

Cat612 11-14-2011 12:40 AM

Technically they're not stealing the graphics from the owners because they're already on the game, and they aren't violating any rules or terms regardless. Good luck with finding an argument to have them shut down.

Tyler 11-14-2011 12:42 AM

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Posted by iHot (Post 32502)
I do agree about the fact the site should be taken down i mean now they have a shield section. But on the whole recolor noob thing i disagree some people may not be patient or know how to do the graphic thing so they resort to stealing and recoloring

Yeah true. I know bodys out of all customs people are least likely to make from scratch since they're so time consuming. I honestly love bodies and work on them a lot. People should just take time to make a custom even if it requires days to do instead of stealing others.

Yephenpeace 11-14-2011 12:48 AM

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Posted by Cat612 (Post 32504)
Technically they're not stealing the graphics from the owners because they're already on the game, and they aren't violating any rules or terms regardless. Good luck with finding an argument to have them shut down.

They are distributing graphics from a game in which they have no rights or permissions to do. Case closed.

Twinny 11-14-2011 12:54 AM

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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 32509)
They are distributing graphics from a game in which they have no rights or permissions to do. Case closed.

And you nor Higbey nor anyone else have any legal ground to stand on to pursue this matter. You do not represent Eurocenter.

Cat612 11-14-2011 12:54 AM

Quote:

Posted by Yephenpeace

They are distributing graphics from a game in which they have no rights or permissions to do. Case closed.

They don't need permission from Graal to use the graphics, and since they aren't turning a profit, it's completely legal

Yephenpeace 11-14-2011 12:57 AM

Quote:

Posted by Twinny (Post 32512)
And you nor Higbey nor anyone else have any legal ground to stand on to pursue this matter. You do not represent Eurocenter.

It's just common knowledge that you shouldn't make a website full of copyrighted material.

Quote:

Posted by Cat612 (Post 32513)
They don't need permission from Graal to use the graphics, and since they aren't turning a profit, it's completely legal

Regardless of if they are making a profit, you can still violate copyright rules.


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