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Marouke 08-05-2015 03:49 PM

Kosiris acts like I care rofl'

super kurosaki 08-05-2015 04:56 PM

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Posted by Kuz (Post 601106)
The arguement started over last GST when Lia said Sparaholic delays more than CRZ.



On a side note though... It's 2015 and people still complain about delay?

U f** delay Kuzativ f** off f** delay fg

MikvaGraal 08-05-2015 05:16 PM

U f♤♤k

Red 08-06-2015 01:35 AM

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Posted by Marouke (Post 601017)
@comyt lag has nothing to do with where you live... Lag comes from your device and wifi!
Delay is related to where you live and your wifi on how fast it can reach server!


lag isn't even the issue when sparring or guildsparring, if anything if you lag you're at disadvantage giving flat out free hits on yourself! Delay is where it gets complicated this is why most games have a bunch of servers located around the world so that there is no delay when you play the game since you'd be reasonably close to one of the servers. Graal on the other hand likes to run everything on one single server which makes is complicated! I spent hours sparring people in a gh with a vpn going around the world testing location impact there is a lot to say! So for the countless time lag isn't even the issue...

Most of you misunderstand the difference between lag and delay there is barely any quote "pro" sparrers that actually lag except for android users cause it's a terrible device for this game and idk why even though the statistics say it should outperform iOS! If you lag it's probably due to your wifi spiking which happens to everyone from time to time for nearly a few seconds and the fact that you have an old iOS device or android again idk why android is terrible!

If you really think thats how lag works lol
then explain my latency being 235, I live in Australia and the server is in Texas. http://static4.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/...0ffcdabf77.gif

Comyt 08-06-2015 02:49 AM

@marouke i responded to "list of delayers in..." saying those people didn't delay, what are you going on about lag for half of the page for? only read the first sentence btw that was unbearable.

Marouke 08-06-2015 02:09 PM

your latency "basically" says how the game will be on your screen. I've been in basically every different latency from under 100 to over 5000 and really it don't really do much except tell you how delayish you are you don't really tell how laggy you are in my opinion!
I've been in over 800ms situations and haven't lagged to be honest. However the delay changes are remarkable only because you're used to playing at a certain ms most of the time and when your ms changes considerably by 150+ it's like having to rediscover everyones delay again! The other day, I randomly sparred for trolls and my ms was like 300+ instead of 120 and under and aguzo couldn't hit me at all even though 99% of you guys won't believe me! Delay changes :D and I do think that anyone who lives somewhere with a 230-350 ms or really low meaning somewhere under 50ms range has the best "delay" even though for the under 50ms not really delay they find it easier to hit people in game!

Aguzo 08-06-2015 02:57 PM

I believe you?... Delayers can be beaten, but you need to get used to them / know that they delay first.

No one has 50ms with the current state of the server.

Here is the ms delay - lag point:

Server count w/ #ms = ?

North America

1000-1500 w/ 50-89ms = you good :)
1000-1500 w/ 90-120ms = internet is being used consitently (Facebook, Netflix)

2000-2500 w/ 100-140ms = you good (Server a little laggier than usual)
2000-2500 w/ 180-220ms = you laggy (internet usage)

3000-4000 w/ 180-300ms = you good (Server can't handle it's 1vs')
3000-4000 w/ 400-600ms = you are delaying a lot - hard

MIWolverine 08-06-2015 03:04 PM

Yeah I no longer believe if You have delay its the same experience on opposing players screens. There are definitely days I can hit people really easy and they have a hard time hitting me and vice versa. I'm not a computer science major and can't explain it but there are clear advantages of delaying in guild spar. Unfortunately on GST day everyone delays so whether there's any sort of advantage then I'm not sure.

Toss up for who wins this year. Thallen a searching for a member to fill a spot.. Which is kind of hypocritical but his team won't be the same without Dante and Mk. Lots of movement on SKT side not sure what's going on with that mess and SLX if they can get their cores actually on and no one gets banned I see them having a good chance this season

Marouke 08-06-2015 03:29 PM

There aren't that much advantage on delaying, if someone delays on your screen you're delaying on his/her screen! I know a few people who have under 50ms, they're very lucky but then again they live literally right beside the server's location... But to be honest there are people you will find easy while others can't and vice/versa I think when it comes to GST the players who are more controlled and mature will win instead of less controlled as they will want to get a hit back when they get hit. It usually doesn't turn out well you end up rushing and losing the round for your team. We've reached a point where the upper skilled sparrers aren't that much better then each other in terms of skills imo. There are few things at the very small detail I'm trying to work and improve on but in terms of the core of skills it's not that much variant!

Where the advantage in delaying comes is experience someone always playing at 300ms will find it easier then someone who doesn't! It's really weird you gotta consider both person's sparring ms.

MIWolverine there is a reason why thallen won't spar unless it's like 2-3am he will get screwed over, his ms isn't the same as what he's used to when he spars during the day.

MIWolverine 08-06-2015 04:01 PM

He's smart he doesn't spar when it delays because it's not enjoyable.

Marouke 08-06-2015 05:00 PM

Well it's good to know people's delay for gst but thallen is patient enough to not need it.

MIWolverine 08-06-2015 05:16 PM

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Posted by Marouke (Post 601565)
Well it's good to know people's delay for gst but thallen is patient enough to not need it.


I'm confused on what you're talking about

super kurosaki 08-06-2015 07:37 PM

I remember thallen saying he doesn't like to spar during the day because the lag is unbearable and he finds it boring having to spar defensively all the time.

Ash Ketchum 08-06-2015 07:45 PM

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Posted by super kurosaki (Post 601640)
I remember thallen saying he doesn't like to spar during the day because the lag is unbearable and he finds it boring having to spar defensively all the time.

he doesn't spar in the day because admins are active on that time and if admins are active there is a higher chance he will get caught haxing so plz report him when u see him 0nline

super kurosaki 08-06-2015 07:49 PM

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Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 601644)
he doesn't spar in the day because admins are active on that time and if admins are active there is a higher chance he will get caught haxing so plz report him when u see him 0nline

Damn I can't rep U again but this tru

Ash Ketchum 08-06-2015 08:05 PM

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Posted by super kurosaki (Post 601647)
Damn I can't rep U again but this tru

I just want your love and respect <3

Thallen 08-07-2015 12:03 AM

I don't spar anymore because you have 2 options:
  1. Spar during the day when 4000 are online, where everyone has a ridiculous ping (bad server)
  2. Spar at obscure hours when the only people sparring are Australians, Asians, and some Europeans (all of whom will have natural delay)

I just don't enjoy sparring unless it's fast and reactive, other low-ping sparrers like Brett probably feel the same way
A 10 streak with 2000 people online takes 5 minutes, it takes probably 12+ minutes with 4000 on

I'll probably spar again when school starts, but it depends how many people are online
Sparring was so much better in my day, sigh!!! /hairflip

Aguzo 08-07-2015 12:25 AM

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Posted by MIWolverine (Post 601519)
Lots of movement on SKT side not sure what's going on with that mess and SLX if they can get their cores actually on and no one gets banned I see them having a good chance this season

What are you talking about demrow? Skt is fine...

Yeah slx could probably beat alumni, even without zid and I you guys won a half the rounds.

Both teams didn't have all cores.

MikvaGraal 08-07-2015 12:32 AM

Finales SLX vs alumno

winner:alumni
3rd place match:Gteam vs deity
Winner:Gteam
Depends how hard dae is walling

Kuz 08-07-2015 03:29 AM

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Posted by MikvaGraal (Post 601764)
Finales SLX vs alumno

winner:alumni
3rd place match:Gteam vs deity
Winner:Gteam
Depends how hard dae is walling

Deity>Gteam

MikvaGraal 08-07-2015 03:36 AM

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Posted by Kuz (Post 601806)
Deity>Gteam

Maxy, chun and xoss Impress me more then there top 3

Totally biased, former deity member

Thallen 08-07-2015 03:47 AM

Xoss is good and seems to be mentally stable (rare)
would prob try to recruit him if he wasn't GTEAM

Darkk 08-07-2015 03:51 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 601762)
What are you talking about demrow? Skt is fine...

Yeah slx could probably beat alumni, even without zid and I you guys won a half the rounds.

Both teams didn't have all cores.

3 Alumni idev members +2 random idevices beat the SLX pc members (team, not sure.) SLX beating any top tier pc team is unrealistic. beat them 10-7

Kuz 08-07-2015 04:08 AM

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Posted by MikvaGraal (Post 601808)
Maxy, chun and xoss Impress me more then there top 3

Totally biased, former deity member

I'd prefer Dae,Skull,John,Ruke over Maxy,Chun,Xoss and Ruppy/Ariona any day of the year

MikvaGraal 08-07-2015 04:09 AM

Yeah skull is pretty cool I guess

Marouke 08-07-2015 04:12 AM

Lol, and I beat Gteam in a 4v4 with only device players 80% of the rounds and they were all pc!
Thank you very much, SLX>Gteam! Gteam is to agitated as a team just saying unless they calm themselves down they ain't getting anywhere the only player I liked was chun! Xoss wasn't there at the time doe the rest of their members make me cringe imo.

MikvaGraal 08-07-2015 04:20 AM

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Posted by Marouke (Post 601821)
Lol, and I beat Gteam in a 4v4 with only device players 80% of the rounds and they were all pc!
Thank you very much, SLX>Gteam! Gteam is to agitated as a team just saying unless they calm themselves down they ain't getting anywhere the only player I liked was chun! Xoss wasn't there at the time doe the rest of their members make me cringe imo.

......and I also 1v5'd US mixed gst and only took 1.0 damage(2 free hits)

Ding 08-07-2015 04:22 AM

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Posted by Marouke (Post 601821)
Lol, and I beat Gteam in a 4v4 with only device players 80% of the rounds and they were all pc!
Thank you very much, SLX>Gteam! Gteam is to agitated as a team just saying unless they calm themselves down they ain't getting anywhere the only player I liked was chun! Xoss wasn't there at the time doe the rest of their members make me cringe imo.

Half the time everyone's messing around while guild sparring lol, yesterday was probably the most. (If that's what you were referring too) The only times I recall them ever taking it seriously, was when score was being kept track of during a legit series.

If anything we're more of a social guild imo who share a common interest.

Chun 08-07-2015 04:24 AM

gteam is not a sparring guild, it is a family guild. So I dont compare gteam to any sparring guilds like deity or slx. It doesn't mean much to beat us in a gs since not all the members are sparrers anyway.

MikvaGraal 08-07-2015 04:25 AM

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Posted by Chun (Post 601824)
not all the members are sparrers anyway.

Lol I wondered why maxymax was in gteam

Chun 08-07-2015 04:29 AM

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Posted by MikvaGraal (Post 601825)
Lol I wondered why maxymax was in gteam

we been friends since we started out as noobs :blush: same with xoss

Ding 08-07-2015 04:34 AM

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Posted by MikvaGraal (Post 601825)
Lol I wondered why maxymax was in gteam

Yeah Chun & maxy are just the speeders who run errands for us

Thallen 08-07-2015 04:35 AM

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Posted by Ding (Post 601828)
Yeah Chun & maxy are just the speeders who run errands for us

gottem

Chun 08-07-2015 04:48 AM

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Posted by Ding (Post 601828)
Yeah Chun & maxy are just the speeders who run errands for us

i heard you use bl keyboard on idev

Ding 08-07-2015 04:53 AM

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Posted by Chun (Post 601835)
i heard you use bl keyboard on idev

Chun you got my address & ran to my house to steal it before I could touch it

Chun 08-07-2015 04:55 AM

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Posted by Ding (Post 601837)
Chun you got my address & ran to my house to steal it before I could touch it

no i would lose my speed if i am away from texas :(

MikvaGraal 08-07-2015 04:57 AM

/closethread

Ruppy 08-07-2015 04:57 AM

I'll have you all know GTEAM beat SLX in semis 2 seasons ago to get to finals and lose 1-3 to Alumni only guilds to ever win round against alumni was GTEAM and Blackout... Just saying

Ding 08-07-2015 04:58 AM

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Posted by MikvaGraal (Post 601840)
/closethread

/closemikva

Aguzo 08-07-2015 04:58 AM

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Posted by Chun (Post 601835)
i heard you use bl keyboard on idev

Bluetooth keyboard? Which one and how?

Chun 08-07-2015 05:00 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 601843)
Bluetooth keyboard? Which one and how?

the rumor has it, she uses ipad 10 with bl keyboard installed to it

Aguzo 08-07-2015 05:02 AM

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Posted by Ruppy (Post 601841)
I'll have you all know GTEAM beat SLX in semis 2 seasons ago to get to finals and lose 1-3 to Alumni only guilds to ever win round against alumni was GTEAM and Blackout... Just saying

War won a round in 2014 in 2 different gsts against alumni (1 with ares, 1 with me)

super kurosaki 08-07-2015 05:06 AM

I think we all know it'll be GTEAM vs Alumni in finals

Thallen 08-07-2015 05:06 AM

we're 55-5-1, I don't remember anyone other than GTEAM and Blackout that has beaten us once in a round before but I'm sure WAR has once or twice during our systematic genocide of that guild

edit: I remember losing once to WAR now, we lost 1 round with Ares because he landed 0 hits

Ruppy 08-07-2015 05:13 AM

I apologize WAR might've beaten Alumni some other time long ago I just didn't remember if they are 55-5-1 that's pretty good so yes that means they have lost to others before but again my point people underestimate GTEAM even though they one of 5 teams to have one of the 5 loses :)

David 08-07-2015 05:34 AM

tfw your guild is so good that people brag about beating you once.

feels good man.

Thallen 08-07-2015 05:43 AM

GTEAM and Deity both pretty good guilds, use same core people always and don't do desperate stuff for a chance at winning
would probably say that GTEAM is stronger right now just based on general activity and knowing how to spar against current guilds

Zetectic 08-07-2015 05:52 AM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 601813)
3 Alumni idev members +2 random idevices beat the SLX pc members (team, not sure.) SLX beating any top tier pc team is unrealistic. beat them 10-7

Cus we lost to u (australia) + yui(japan) + deus(england) made us realise our method doesn't work against delayers(we only had 2 cores). thx u for a lesson, but i hope u get better before running ur mouth like u think u are good.
if anything deus should be the one saying this^^^, considering how tough he was and his skills were pretty impressive compare to the past.
u? u just ran the whole time like me. if u aren't even good, why can't u stay quiet? WEIRD u were quiet when u were gsing us and suck really bad. have fun getting carried by yui and deus. oh i forgot to mention this, ill be @ gst to record u dancing around. lolol

-in other topic
Gteam was damn impressive. chun, maxymax, tenzin, xoss. considering that they were just good friends. kudos to them, they are something now. i hope they stay like they are now and don't turn ****y like some one who got rescued by thallen.

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Posted by Thallen (Post 601850)
we're 55-5-1, I don't remember anyone other than GTEAM and Blackout that has beaten us once in a round before but I'm sure WAR has once or twice during our systematic genocide of that guild

edit: I remember losing once to WAR now, we lost 1 round with Ares because he landed 0 hits

in my memory WAR/Apostles always lost to Alumni by 3-1. every GST.

Darkk 08-07-2015 05:57 AM

Ran my mouth because that's exaclty what you guys did to yui. Enjoy spectating this gst.

Zetectic 08-07-2015 06:09 AM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 601861)
Ran my mouth because that's exaclty what you guys did to yui. Enjoy spectating this gst.

Guys?? I dont remember saying *** to anyone nor aserus or nat or male did.
We respected ur competition and all the sudden u come and try to brag? Wts is this.

Maybe yd talked trash. He just say how he feels. If he didn't enjoy it then leave it. Dont hold grudge against the whole slx, deal with that kid by ur own.


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