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0PiX0 02-22-2012 04:53 PM

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Posted by Rok (Post 71352)
No, if they're not working they shouldn't be on their STAFF account. If they wanna have fun by being lazy, they have an iDevice (or can go on a server where they aren't staff) for that. Their staff account is used to help players, and they should NEVER use the priveleges of a staff account for their own sake. I've said this many times before, and apparently it needs to be said again. These people were HIRED to do a JOB which is to HELP PLAYERS. If they feel that this job is too much for them to handle, or they don't like having no free time, or being PMed by people who need help a lot, then QUIT. Because those things are what they were hired to help with. It's simple.

Perhaps we should put up a donation option so people like you who feel so strongly about this can give us the motivation to spend all our time online working, and have no fun. You are correct, it is a job. One we are not monetarily paid for. So, we get benefits. If you don't like that system, complain to the GraalOnline management. But, know that its damn sure that if there were no benefits for staff or payment, nobody would take a job on Graal.

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 71354)
Go on pc era and hang then? It's not like iEra is the only server available. And you get free gold as a staff member. May as well use it

I dislike playing on the PC servers due to a lack of playercount, corruption of staff, and PC servers contain an entirely different community which I'm not all that interested in getting involved in.

Manxjojo 02-22-2012 04:59 PM

Looks like the haters lost this round XD

Rok 02-22-2012 05:00 PM

But you can't take a job SOLELY based on the benefits you get. Sure, that's a factor, but so is the fact that, when you're staff, you're gonna get a ton of PMs. I'm just tired of staff complaining about it, like they never thought about that before they applied. They all did, and yet they have the tenacity to complain about it anyways, about a job THEY applied for and about the Pros and Cons they were aware of long before they applied. Everyone knows this server is mainly a 17 and under player base, and yet the staff think they're dealing with mature people. LOL!

What I'm saying is Staff Account is for work. If all you have is a staff acount, then make another one, or work all the time. Your choice

Manxjojo 02-22-2012 05:02 PM

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Posted by Rok (Post 71368)
But you can't take a job SOLELY based on the benefits you get. Sure, that's a factor, but so is the fact that, when you're staff, you're gonna get a ton of PMs. I'm just tired of staff complaining about it, like they never thought about that before they applied. They all did, and yet they have the tenacity to complain about it anyways, about a job THEY applied for and about the Pros and Cons they were aware of long before they applied. Everyone knows this server is mainly a 17 and under player base, and yet the staff think they're dealing with mature people. LOL!

What I'm saying is Staff Account is for work. If all you have is a staff acount, then make another one, or work all the time. Your choice

Well you're not selfish are you? (sarcasm in case you couldn't work it out)

Rok 02-22-2012 05:05 PM

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Posted by Manxjojo (Post 71370)
Well you're not selfish are you? (sarcasm in case you couldn't work it out)

Tell me one thing in that entire quote that's selfish. And stop spamming threads with randomized troll posts. It's really annoying.

Manxjojo 02-22-2012 05:07 PM

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Posted by Rok (Post 71372)
Tell me one thing in that entire quote that's selfish. And stop spamming threads with randomized troll posts. It's really annoying.

LOL! I love how you say I'm the one trolling. You guys are the ones saying admins should never have a break on their staff account. So actually you're the trolls. So I'd shut up haters.

Rok 02-22-2012 05:09 PM

That isn't trolling. It's called voicing our opinions. You saying our opinions are sh** is trolling.

Manxjojo 02-22-2012 05:14 PM

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Posted by Rok (Post 71374)
That isn't trolling. It's called voicing our opinions. You saying our opinions are sh** is trolling.

When did I say that? Oh that's right I didn't -_-

0PiX0 02-22-2012 05:18 PM

We aren't complaining about the amount of PMs we receive; we are explaining to you why our responses are sometimes delayed or nonexistant. If you really expect us to work all the time, you are unreasonable. A better solution, rather than having current staff slave, would be to hire more PR to help. I believe we will do just that.

Manxjojo 02-22-2012 05:20 PM

Exactly so what you talking about Willis?

Jester Lapse 02-22-2012 05:48 PM

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Posted by Manxjojo
Exactly so what you talking about Willis?

Pix is making valid points whereas you're just being rude. Leave


AND TO CLARIFY...again

I NEVER said staff should respond to all pms or not take breaks. Hell, I wouldn't be able to respond to pms and I barely keep up with the ones I get as a player. I'm just saying, and will always say, if you're doing something non relevant to your job on your staff account. You should still have staff duties such as answering a simple question instead of calling people idiots and ignoring them. Understand this point

Cat612 02-22-2012 06:01 PM

I try to answer every PM I get, however a majority of them are "hi" "sup" and "cat". For the most part I reply to these messages, but sometimes I am very busy answering questions, and I won't reply. If you have a legitimate question, just send it to me in your first PM, so we can just skip the pointless niceties.

Manxjojo 02-22-2012 06:14 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 71390)
Pix is making valid points whereas you're just being rude. Leave


AND TO CLARIFY...again

I NEVER said staff should respond to all pms or not take breaks. Hell, I wouldn't be able to respond to pms and I barely keep up with the ones I get as a player. I'm just saying, and will always say, if you're doing something non relevant to your job on your staff account. You should still have staff duties such as answering a simple question instead of calling people idiots and ignoring them. Understand this point

Get this in your head. They don't have to always be working on their staff account. And like PiX said before some don't have iDevices so they always have to use their staff account for iEra

0PiX0 02-22-2012 06:18 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 71390)
Pix is making valid points whereas you're just being rude. Leave


AND TO CLARIFY...again

I NEVER said staff should respond to all pms or not take breaks. Hell, I wouldn't be able to respond to pms and I barely keep up with the ones I get as a player. I'm just saying, and will always say, if you're doing something non relevant to your job on your staff account. You should still have staff duties such as answering a simple question instead of calling people idiots and ignoring them. Understand this point

Who is calling people idiots? Certainly even if we are off stafftag and don't have but a few PMs stacked up, we will probably answer your question just to be nice. However, we are not required to. I understand that you think we should be obligated to answer certain things stafftagged or not. To a certain extent I think most staff feel the same way.

Jester Lapse 02-22-2012 06:50 PM

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Posted by 0PiX0

Who is calling people idiots? Certainly even if we are off stafftag and don't have but a few PMs stacked up, we will probably answer your question just to be nice. However, we are not required to. I understand that you think we should be obligated to answer certain things stafftagged or not. To a certain extent I think most staff feel the same way.

Check gang pic

John 02-22-2012 06:56 PM

This is how another thread is gonna be closed because everything is off topic, Hermes tried to put it back on topic but it went off again and it may become the thread with the new admin poll were everyone is against one person. It seems like every thread someone is arguing about something.

0PiX0 02-22-2012 07:03 PM

That's the kind of thing you need to report to us by emailing [email protected]. Don't assume we all treat players with disrespect. If you see staff being disrespectful or abusive, let us know, because PRA cannot watch everybody all the time.

Jester Lapse 02-22-2012 07:26 PM

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Posted by 0PiX0
That's the kind of thing you need to report to us by emailing [email protected]. Don't assume we all treat players with disrespect. If you see staff being disrespectful or abusive, let us know, because PRA cannot watch everybody all the time.

I know not all staff are like this. As I said, I commend most of our staff for being effective. It's just some are lacking and it brings down the image of the whole team. As the saying goes, a team is only as strong as its weakest link. And with all the firings, quitting, ect, it just looks terrible.

I am not making a lash at staff, just voicing my opinion, and the opinion a few others share. I love and enjoy having most of our staff. But it only takes a few to ruin the fun

Tink 02-22-2012 09:18 PM

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Posted by Rok (Post 71251)
Just be sure that the line for spamming/annoying/harassing doesnt keep dropping. Yes, you're "busy." Yes, you're "annoyed." But, you do realize you were hired for the SPECIFIC reason of interacting with the players and helping them with whatever they need. If this is too much trouble for you, I'm sure there is a long list of players who would be more than happy to have a go at your spot. If you guys are so mature, then deal with it. You're working with pre-teens and teenagers, what'd you expect when you applied?

I have two people on ignore and they know exactly why they are ignored lol
I love making sure the players know they are valued and respected. When, in any of my statements concerning HW or Auron did you find that I can't handle players spam, annoying or even harassing msgs? I was simply stating that just because a staff member doesn't answer questions right away doesn't mean they are a bad staff member hehe HW and Auron work hard, end of story :)

Jatz 02-22-2012 09:44 PM

Auron is, and always will be a big role model of mine on iEra. He handles sticky situations well and deserves respect. If 15 people want to vote me and say im "A good admin", take a second to think that i learnt pretty much everything from auron.

Tink 02-22-2012 11:05 PM

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Posted by Jatz (Post 71481)
Auron is, and always will be a big role model of mine on iEra. He handles sticky situations well and deserves respect. If 15 people want to vote me and say im "A good admin", take a second to think that i learnt pretty much everything from auron.

Precisely Jatz! :)

P.S. And I taught Auron all he knows hahaha :smile:

Jester Lapse 02-22-2012 11:16 PM

No one is bashing on auron? Obviously he does his job well or else he wouldn't be the position he's in.

Thunderstorm 02-22-2012 11:24 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 71410)
Check gang pic

Sue me.
After trying to sort an issue out with another player, players continued to spam for me to drag them. Sorry JL. I truly am.

aya 02-22-2012 11:24 PM

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Posted by Hermes* (Post 71356)
noah tink snk wdm snake reckon lavaclaw haha

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 71362)
? Random lol

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Posted by Thread Title
Who is your FAV admin??? :)


Jester Lapse 02-22-2012 11:35 PM

lol....oh :)

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Posted by Thunderstorm (Post 71521)
Sue me.
After trying to sort an issue out with another player, players continued to spam for me to drag them. Sorry JL. I truly am.

someone asked you the website for uploads. I know this because they had to ask me instead because you were too "busy" BAR spamming in spar and licking Nico.

Ace 02-22-2012 11:52 PM

RE:Comment on my removed post by Tink,
Exactly, staff isin't there to be interacting with other staff but to be interacting with players. You obviously don't spend much time with people if you spy on other admins that much.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 02-23-2012 06:04 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 71390)
Pix is making valid points whereas you're just being rude. Leave


AND TO CLARIFY...again

I NEVER said staff should respond to all pms or not take breaks. Hell, I wouldn't be able to respond to pms and I barely keep up with the ones I get as a player. I'm just saying, and will always say, if you're doing something non relevant to your job on your staff account. You should still have staff duties such as answering a simple question instead of calling people idiots and ignoring them. Understand this point

Who pms you? Lol im just asking.

Hermes* 02-23-2012 06:25 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 71362)
? Random lol

i cant choose xD

Tink 02-23-2012 07:39 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 71514)
No one is bashing on auron? Obviously he does his job well or else he wouldn't be the position he's in.

Actually, I was still commenting on a horrible post on page 7 by "Koolaid" concerning HW and Auron...

As for the rest of the posts lately:
"Tink! NOT Working" was my nick name all day today... Now, let me make this really clear... I LOVE helping players with issues, I love knowing that they are smiling again. I don't mind those hundreds of "Can I have your doll" or "Can you grab my statue"... I'm honored that some players would even want a doll or statue of me... Having said that... I was up at 3am this morning dealing with an issue, finally was able to go to bed when my phone rang and I was being called into work (irl). Entirely exhausted but wanting to see my friends and especially PiX I stayed logged on iEra as the "Tink! NOT Working"... I got hundreds of msgs of course even tho my nick name was clearly typed and I read every msg and responded to almost all that were sent to me... Generally, (I won't speak for everyone) staff do this because we want to help players, not see them abused or miss-treated. We appreciate being able to help others and see that they are having a fun online experience. I have witnessed utter abuse, immaturity, greedy, selfish, arrogant and complete disregard for players and I despise it... Most of you that know me, know you can msg me anytime. I may respond slow at times but I will eventually get back to you...

The admins I love working with:
PiX (No joke, best all around staff I have ever met. It's why I absolutely adore him)
Auron (Known him for years and know he's a caring and kind and in control)
HomelessWitch (An amazing lady. Doing the job of PR, LAT and GFX)
Snk & Wdm (The most amazing twins one would ever meet)
Milkshake (Always so helpful and so attentive)
Jatz (Funniest guy! but when it's time, he puts his foot down and keeps control)

I won't go on... But yea! I am a PR and I do get to see behind the scenes, so I'm blessed in that regard but trust me, we're all players of Graal and I agree, one or even a few can ruin that experience so quickly... <3

Manxjojo 02-23-2012 10:14 AM

Lol see Jester just because an admin is somewhere like a spar it doesn't mean they're not busy.

Jatz 02-23-2012 11:45 AM

Sometimes i dont work when im signed in. If you want us to work 24/7 tell stefan and unixmad to pay us. But we do worm hard, even when we may not look busy, we usually or on rc doing something. So calm down

Manxjojo 02-23-2012 12:21 PM

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Posted by Jatz (Post 71894)
Sometimes i dont work when im signed in. If you want us to work 24/7 tell stefan and unixmad to pay us. But we do worm hard, even when we may not look busy, we usually or on rc doing something. So calm down

That's what I was trying to tell Jester

Rok 02-23-2012 02:15 PM

I would never bash Auron. I know how hard he works and I am one of three who voted for him on this poll. I only have problems with a few admins, none of my posts were directed toward every admin. Sorry if the wasn't clear before.

Jester Lapse 02-23-2012 02:34 PM

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Posted by Manxjojo
That's what I was trying to tell Jester

Is your head so far up staff's butt you can't read? Not once did I state our staff doesn't work hard. I said some are more lazy than others

Manxjojo 02-23-2012 02:42 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 71925)
Is your head so far up staff's butt you can't read? Not once did I state our staff doesn't work hard. I said some are more lazy than others

Someone needs to go to manners classes.

Ace 02-23-2012 02:47 PM

Topic: Who is your FAV Admin?
-___- Go cat fight somewhere else

Jester Lapse 02-23-2012 02:52 PM

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Posted by Jatz
Sometimes i dont work when im signed in. If you want us to work 24/7 tell stefan and unixmad to pay us. But we do worm hard, even when we may not look busy, we usually or on rc doing something. So calm down

Worm so hard them graalians wanna find me ;)

Thunderstorm 02-23-2012 08:27 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 71528)
lol....oh :)



someone asked you the website for uploads. I know this because they had to ask me instead because you were too "busy" BAR spamming in spar and licking Nico.

I'm glad we sorted this out in-game, rather than continue arguing :P saved me a page long post!

Jatz 02-23-2012 08:30 PM

So there i was, knee deep in the jungle, enemies all around me..

L0N3 P4ND4 02-23-2012 08:46 PM

continue your story jatz......what did you do next? :)

Jatz 02-23-2012 08:52 PM

I got bored and didn't finish my story, thats what i did next.

L0N3 P4ND4 02-23-2012 08:53 PM

lol best seller!

Manxjojo 02-23-2012 09:23 PM

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Posted by L0N3 P4ND4 (Post 72020)
lol best seller!

Agreed.

Jester Lapse 02-23-2012 10:59 PM

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Posted by Thunderstorm

I'm glad we sorted this out in-game, rather than continue arguing :P saved me a page long post!

Yep :) water under the bridge :)

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Posted by Jatz
So there i was, knee deep in the jungle, enemies all around me..

So you ban hammers all of them. Ez

Chaotic 02-23-2012 11:38 PM

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Posted by Jatz (Post 71894)
But we do worm hard

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...rior/dance.gif

John 02-24-2012 12:25 AM

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Posted by Chaotic (Post 72120)

Lmao my ribs I can't stop laughing!!!!!

Hearts Graal 02-27-2012 04:23 PM

Hmm

Let us look at both sides of the coin.

From the players' perspectives, many of us want to be an admin. It can be for many reasons, like to help improve a game we enjoy. This also causes a certain degree of jealousy on our parts. This is the reason why players jump at any small mistakes an admin make. It is because we feel that we can do a better job if only we are given the chance to. And it makes some players envious that certain admins are given this special chance to but are not treasuring it as much as they would.

However, on the other hand, what players do not know is what goes behind the screen. We do not know how hard admins have to work just to maintain Era functionality, to continuously release updates for players. All players see is a final product. For example, release of a new shop. But what we do not see is how much time and effort it takes for admins to make it possible.

I guess on this part, players need to know how to be grateful as these admins work to make Era better for us, without a single cent earned. Yes this is a job for them, but they do not profit from it. What makes them go on is the belief that they want to make give players an enjoyable gaming experience. So players need to cut the slack on admins and be more appreciative as when we are playing the game, admins actually have to work instead.

A bold suggestion on my part. It is not easy for admins to work hard but yet have to face negative criticisms. But it is never possible to gain full 100% approval or recognition in everything we do. Hence, in face of criticisms, admins should take a look at whether they are constructive and also try to take a step back to understand the players' point of view. If you feel that you have done your very best, be proud of your work and stay strong. There are always people out there, players, your fellow co workers, your manager who can see your efforts and appreciate everything you have done.
Best wishes to you all.

Just my two cents as a player who plays iEra for more than a year and loving it. <3

Vman13x 02-27-2012 09:55 PM

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Posted by Hearts Graal (Post 73657)
Hmm

Let us look at both sides of the coin.

From the players' perspectives, many of us want to be an admin. It can be for many reasons, like to help improve a game we enjoy. This also causes a certain degree of jealousy on our parts. This is the reason why players jump at any small mistakes an admin make. It is because we feel that we can do a better job if only we are given the chance to. And it makes some players envious that certain admins are given this special chance to but are not treasuring it as much as they would.

However, on the other hand, what players do not know is what goes behind the screen. We do not know how hard admins have to work just to maintain Era functionality, to continuously release updates for players. All players see is a final product. For example, release of a new shop. But what we do not see is how much time and effort it takes for admins to make it possible.

I guess on this part, players need to know how to be grateful as these admins work to make Era better for us, without a single cent earned. Yes this is a job for them, but they do not profit from it. What makes them go on is the belief that they want to make give players an enjoyable gaming experience. So players need to cut the slack on admins and be more appreciative as when we are playing the game, admins actually have to work instead.

A bold suggestion on my part. It is not easy for admins to work hard but yet have to face negative criticisms. But it is never possible to gain full 100% approval or recognition in everything we do. Hence, in face of criticisms, admins should take a look at whether they are constructive and also try to take a step back to understand the players' point of view. If you feel that you have done your very best, be proud of your work and stay strong. There are always people out there, players, your fellow co workers, your manager who can see your efforts and appreciate everything you have done.
Best wishes to you all.

Just my two cents as a player who plays iEra for more than a year and loving it. <3

Plus rep for you
Courtesy of Vman Confusion ;)

Jester Lapse 02-27-2012 09:58 PM

Revival of dead thread activate *bzzzzt*

334 02-27-2012 10:19 PM

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Posted by Thunderstorm (Post 66219)
PM me bro.

bro?


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