Sorry, can't find any sources that say Depression is qualified for a prescription to medical marijuana in your state.

http://norml.org/legal/item/michigan-medical-marijuana

might be wrong though.

Acid ain't that bad in my opinion it's like you're high except way more powerful and longer (I couldn't sleep for 12 hours) though taking too much can screw can give you a bad trip which might screw you up mentally.

Chong sure looks like a bastion of good health, I sure as hell want to look like him when I'm in my 70s. Better start smoking weed now.
http://www.eurweb.com/wp-content/upl...ommy-chong.jpg

I know my dad is a subjective example, but I figured I'd butt it in as a proper supporting example to the quoted text.

My dad grew up in New Orleans primarily, and moved several times, stimulating his decision to do and deal drugs. After moving to Minnesota, he basically ran an empire in the most active drug region in the state. He's done literally every drug in the book, except for the more recent drugs (past 10 years or so). For the record, if he found out his supply somehow ended up in schools, he would beat the living **** out of the person responsible. Hypocritical, but at the same time suppressive.

In like 2005 he was finally convicted of dealing, and sentenced to 5 years after cutting a deal with the judge. It was going to be 15 years. After that, the only drug he's pretty much been on is pot, and some pain medication prescribed for his shoulder surgery and other incidents. He was voted to be the most likely to return to prison within the first year upon release by the state, but proved them wrong.

He taught me about the addiction side of things, and especially gateway drugs. I know it may not seem like it, but my dad and countless others started with weed. It is a gateway drug. It stimulates the decision to move to harder drugs, however, it still is a decision. Drugs don't push you through the gate, they create the gate. It's your decision to walk through it.

In fact, it's a decision to even smoke in the first place. Some people have a greater tendency to addiction, and it's their responsibility to know/predict how they'll respond.

In essence, any drug is a gateway drug. That is, if you make it one.

That's the age when the quality of life starts to deteriorate imo. So I don't give a **** how I look by then.

That wasn't really what I meant, sorry if you misunderstood. I meant in terms of interpretation. It's pretty obvious that everyone experiences something different, but some people might have a freaking hard attack if they aren't capable of mentally preparing for the effects.

I had a friend who had it all together at one point. He was in college going for his bachelor's in teaching and in his Sophomore year he blew it because of his stupidity with weed and weed only. He even admits to it now that he screwed himself over with weed. He was primarily the one keeping himself in college with his good grades and him living in an off-campus apartment. Guess what happens when you can't make money? You're screwed. He lost his job from his job at Guitar Center from walking into the place high. Jobs were hard to come across in the city so he had no money to pay for his food or his car insurance. He didn't have the motivation to stop being an idiot so he just left. Now he's living back home with his parents. There's a real-life scenario from myself.

I got rear-ended at a stop light pretty hard from a guy smoking weed 2 years ago. He's in prison now...

Ever driven behind a stoner? I don't think you'd like to.

okay I can't believe how many times I've posted in this thread so I'm out

I think I've expressed my points pretty horribly

good day to everyone

Well it's illegal federally, but states are making it legal. Some for medication and a couple for recreational.

http://www.governing.com/gov-data/st...reational.html


http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states

Just because weed isn't as bad as alcohol doesn't mean it's good. It's still bad and you would still be way better off without it. It's extremely unhealthy to depend on something like that, even if you're depressed. It only becomes a crutch and doesn't actually help you in the long run.

Exactly. This is why it's illogical to compare it to alcohol in the first place.

I take back everything I said and put out there that it's all preference and perhaps there are negative side affects that we choose to ignore/deal with. I also apologize to anyone I attacked personally in this debate, it got too heated.

i dont know man he looks pretty happy.

That's why it shouldn't be compared to alcohol. The comparison creates an unnecessary contrast that makes the weed statistically look good. It's like comparing stealing to murdering. They're both bad, right? However, in context, stealing sounds like a much better option.

That was supposed to be posted somewhere like page 4, where this conversation was relevant. Deleted it, but I'll discuss it anyway.
(As in for whatever reason the post didn't finish sending till I logged on at 8 tonight).

Firstly, I don't argue with anecdotal knowledge, when it can be avoided. But considering your risk only goes up by 0.02 compared to a sober driver, it isn't that bad. Now, admittedly, that study could be flawed in some way, but i haven't found how. Not saying it should be legal though, don't take that the wrong way.

Now, while i am for legalization, I definitely don't agree with a lot of the other pro-legalization contributors of this thread. While the study I posted way earlier in the thread showed no long term lung health impacts from using marijuana, however, you do face impacts from the paper itself, surprisingly. If you use a vaporizer you'll fare a lot better.

That doesn't even mean I would use marijuana, I wouldn't. I don't feel the need/want to. But, considering those who will use weed will use it whether it is illegal or not, why not at least decriminalize it? What do we stand to gain from imprisoning people for possession? Distribution can still be a crime. But overall I think it is not a "yes/no" question, but more of a "when" question.

Some people handle weed better than others. I smoke every night and I have 5 classes and work around 35 hours a week. I function fine and maintain a GPA over 3.5. And I try to run a few miles a few times a week and I never have problems doing it. A lot of people who smoke were already screw ups before they started smoking. That's why people tend to think smokers have like IQs of 50 and can't focus on anything. Any person with good self control can smoke everyday and still function in their job or education perfectly fine.

That's a point I made earlier. Because of it's bad reputation a lot of it's users are very unintelligent so everyone associates it with screw-ups. A common misconception IMO.

if it becomes legal, i hope people doesn't influence others to smoke it and create more users.

It'll be like cigarettes all over again! Everyone will get peer pressured into it because it's "cool" and then there'll be crappy "hip" commercials trying to convince teens to stop smoking weed with the use of internet memes and dubstep (or whatever will be the new thing) in a few years or so.

Honestly, why should anyone even care if others smoke weed like damn nobody gives a f***

Legalize it so the economy can be better

Honestly, I don't think that would happen, nop, never, listen.. I know a lot of people smoke cigarettes and drink alcohols to look cool, I know someone who is constantly bragging about how he spent $50 everyday buying marijuana and smoking it.

but what I don't know, is everyone else's point of view. It may seem inhumane to you, to me, or to everyone else, but theres cannabis users that is dependant to what illicit drug they're using, what marijuana to us can be pictured sexual pleasure for them, you don't tell marijuana users to stop being a consumer of marijuana, you don't tell a smoker to stop smoking, UNLESS you have been in their shoes, because you are not them.

The truth is, illegal or not, people will continue to use them.

you mean like all throughout the 90s?

lmfao omg your mindset it hilarious

not everything is black and white

Some of you have to follow the science instead of the ideology of cannabis. Legalizing it won't encourage people to pursue it. In Colorado, cannabis has actually led to a drop in the number of young people using it. Medically speaking, there is a chemical found in marijuana that has been shown to inhibit the growth of cancer cells. If you don't want to bake or smoke it, that's on you. You may have a bad image about it, but for others it helps cope with their medical/emotional issues.

Legalize marijuana, but have restrictions just like Alcohol and Smoking does. I'd say minimum age should be 18+ and identification is needed to buy or consume it.

If someone falls for peer pressure....Ur an idiot lol

let the states decide if it should be legal or not. Thats up to them not the feds

That's like saying you shouldn't tell someone to not drink bleach because you "haven't been in their shoes." They have a reason for smoking, and I have a reason to want someone to not smoke.

(I'm not comparing bleach to weed. I'm comparing the two analogous situations.)

Have you ever seen the movie Idiocracy?

I know so many people that are screw ups because of weed, not the other way around. You must have an extreme fixed mindset.

Even if you're right, are you saying that unintelligent people chose to smoke weed purely out of an irrational decision?

I didn't say it was an irrational decision.

just legalise everything

libertarianism

ron paul was last hope

What's wrong with thinking people don't need to be smoking crap that isn't oxygen? I'm not saying they can't smoke, I'm just saying it shouldn't be encouraged. Yes there are people out there that can smoke weed and be perfectly fine, make good grades, not get into heavier drugs... but like i said, it doesn't mean it's a good thing. It's still smoke, it's still probably bad for your teeth and lungs, people would still be better off without it. Yeah it's fun and makes you momentarily happy. Woop-dee-doo so do a lot of other things that won't potentially screw you up.

If you're someone that gets along great with only weed, congrats. But don't go around talking like there are 0 downsides and like it's the best thing on the planet. It's still a bad habit to get into nonetheless.

pretty much the reason why i stopped smoking. Only few hours of happiness and then back to normal. I use to just waste my tip money on weed. Now I've saved over a thousand dollars being off it. woot woot

The only that I smoke is life cause it is literally also slowing killing me

And candy and junk food and plenty of other stuff are bad for your health, should we get rid of those too? It's our life, we should be able to do what WE want involving our own health

Both of you make some pretty good points.

Basically the rules are simple, do whatever you want but show restraint.

Too much of anything is bad and that's the truth.

smok wed everyday xd

When did Coco say she wanted to get rid of marijuana? She's just saying it's ignorant to pretend it isn't harmful to your health.

Do whatever you want to yourself, it's not my body. Never said to get rid of it, just don't encourage it and act like it's good for you.

Second hand smoke tho

^^^

Nobody told anyone to quit, we are all just dicussing REAL concerns and possible health issues.

This discussion is not about you personally Nanner or other weed smokers so stop treating it that way, we are pointing out the negatives that can come with legalizing it in a general sense. There are real health and mental issues as well as some others that can come with legalizing it and you need to stop acting like just because it is good for you then it will be good for everyone.

If someone is doing something harmful to their health then the "its my life let me worry about my health" argument is voided, we as a society should not just let people harm them selves mentally/physcially we should be preventing it and helping them.

I never said or implied weed was the best thing in the world. I can totally respect someone's decision to not smoke it. And Colin your argument of preventing society from harming themselves mentally and physically is voided since cigarettes and alcohol are a thing..

What I meant by that was, yes, they are free to use whatever substance they want whether it be smoking or drinking because it is their life and smoking, getting high, and drinking can be done with no harmful short-term affects if done in moderation and if that person can react to it well.

But, if somebody is addicted to these things or their body can not handle it physically/mentally and it is causing them noticeable problems then we should not let them try to say it's ok because it's their health and their life because if we don't help them they wont help them selves.

I brought this point up not as a means that we shouldn't legalize it but to what Nanner said about how it is their health and we shouldn't care how they choose to treat it.

Then the correlation you mentioned between unintelligent people and smoking is a mere coincidence? I don't understand what your point is with that.

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Some people say it's natural selection, those people say it's good for the rest of us, like how those people say gay marriage is natural selection as they can never reproduce, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't prevent or discourage the use of marijuana.

Oh you wanna smoke weed? Okay go ahead, but you should know the adverse effect of using it. Oh you're going to rob a bank? Go ahead, and don't get caught, but you should know what is going to happen if you're caught. That's discouraging, but how about preventing it? Nothing can prevent it, saying the law prohibits it won't stop people from it, it'll only discourage them, people just don't care

If I ever do drugs it'd be a suicide pill

Lel

That's hardcore, dude.

Naw murica not ready for him yet
We still need trump to get people to stop relying on welfare then let glorious ron paul become president

Oh cool a weed thread!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNdO95XfJ8I