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Jimbo 06-16-2017 03:23 PM

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Posted by super kurosaki (Post 786994)
sarah working on her masters while jumbo sitting at home leeching off his mother lol why even bother arguing

You don't know me irl, donīt pull education into this when everyone knows you lack one

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Posted by Red (Post 786995)
jimbo and rexx professional world adventurers, which country you two bimbos going to visit next time

Am I suppose to be insulted? You are welcome to make a thread about my travels this summer

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Posted by Sig. (Post 787009)
I never did GFX but okay. And if I recall correctly, you gave out hats to your friends only. And your Xor part doesn't even make sense at all.

I just told a player a little bit more about you since he doesn't know you. Oh and it's not slander if it's true.

Who are you, I asked around as well and I just canīt seem to know who this crybaby is that sucks up to Sarah so much

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 787045)
I love how Ashur keeps telling multiple experienced sparrers that they should spar more because he doesn't see them.

I wonder if the real reason is something else here, since none of us even knew who this was.

:thinking:

You barely spar, and when you actually are in the spar room, you are just afk
Your stats tells as much and itīs great you aren't an admin anymore, and I do remember when you followed me to the gs room and got me banned. I am pretty sure you got fired

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Posted by alexx (Post 787049)
*posts reply explaining how you are wrong* "what you said is just repeated bs"
i explained what the only possible advantage in spar there is, i explained how 13k total spars is no way conceded experienced (especially with those wins being spread out for multiple years) and your response is i have just repeated bs?

and for some reason i cant find you on the top 50 spar leader boards for this season? that seems a bit odd for someone who is so experienced at spar.
in addition to that i think i have seen you spar twice, and i was playing very actively these past weeks.

but hey probably a coincidence right???


edit: just checked and you arent even in the top 50 IDEV sparrers....and the #50 idev sparrer has only 145 wins, which means you have less then that?? im gonna assume your active on an alt right? how else would you be so experienced at spar!

Alexxx it took you a lot of time to selectively get your stats, and this is what you do: Goes into mixed rooms tries to win 10 times and if you lose 2 matches, you go into a side room to make up for your losses. You are 24/7 sparring against noobs.

I am just surprised you have the patience to selectively spar like that

He will probably deny this:
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alexx 06-16-2017 03:26 PM

jimbo you are notorious for making up lies and bs, no idea why you even comment on these threads besides the fact to respond to your other 5 pending arguments with other people about **** you have also bs about. you are on the same tier as paddie honestly.

no i dont deny the picture but why not show the other pictures of where i was saying my other guildies were in streak rooms?? for some reason you only show screenshots of things that benifit your claim. you were in that room and only watched me spar that guy (because i only got 3 wins from there) and blurting out 'your in siderooms all day' too make sure your screenshot has a little bit more value huh, lol

Darkk 06-16-2017 03:41 PM

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Posted by Jimbo (Post 787052)
donīt pull education into this

Yeah Super may be ******ed, but I'm sure he understands what a simple term such as sarcasm means lol
http://i.imgur.com/j0bHdaz.jpg?1

Ashur 06-16-2017 03:46 PM

LOL Alexx your actual argument, since you need a reply so bad:

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Posted by alexx (Post 787010)
the only advantage PC players have over idev members is experience. They know how they spar, and they can predict what's coming next, want to get better? Spar more pcs so you are expiereced with there style.

This is the same concept with delay, there is no advantage with delay, delayers have to hit just as early as Americans have too, this just comes down to lack of experience, if you can't spar delayers you will lose and blame there delay as a reason as to why you've lost.

Recap: get good

You stated that delay and player controls have some kind of similarity?? Like you literally said in this post.. "delay is the same on both sides", controls on opposing platforms.. Are not.

Its more similar to.. I have a horse that can eat 3 bushes worth of speed, yours can eat 5. If i practice more and become more "experienced", is it a fair race?

alexx 06-16-2017 03:59 PM

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Posted by Ashur (Post 787058)
LOL Alexx your actual argument, since you need a reply so bad:



So pc's automatically have more experience.. Thats all there is to it? I thought experience was trial/ error & practice type of thing. No? Then you went on to state that delay and player controls have some kind of similarity?? Like you literally said in this post delay is the same on both sides, controls on opposing platforms.. Are not.

because you are a ****** ill try to dumb it down for you:

pc's have more experience with there movements no? i mean they literally spar with it, i did not say they are a more experienced sparrer in general, i said they are experienced and used too pc movements because they use those movements themselves...hopefully you understand.

i did not say delay and extra controls have a similarity, i said the arguments that spawn from delay and pc advantages are similar. did you even read my previous post where i said 'i was not comparing delay and pc sparrers as the same, there obviously different, i was stating that the argument that pc's have an advantage is similar to the argument that delay has an advantage' in case you need an explanation, they are similar because the reasoning as to why people think there is an advantage is because of lack of experience and there is another similarity which is both arguments can be debunked by simply having more experience sparring them.

hopefully that in depth explanation clears whatever you dont understand up.

Colin 06-16-2017 04:02 PM

get good all of you

If you sparred 13,000 times and still have a bad ratio don't go around claiming you are more experienced, that's like Kaois saying he's the most experienced sparrer

Rekkles 06-16-2017 04:11 PM

You get diagonals on mobile, if it's still a problem change your joystick type in options.

Ashur 06-16-2017 04:22 PM

I think you guys should both look up the definition of experienced. Things like.. "endured; undergone; suffered through" come up. So actually colin, yes he would be one of those, much more than either of you, "experienced" people. Also by that same definition, I technically am.

@alexx youre gonna have to play that one back in like 4x slo mo for me. That just makes little to no sense at this point. You mustve missed some of my reiforcement on last post.

Colin 06-16-2017 04:24 PM

You're experienced in losing a lot??? Grats??

Ashur 06-16-2017 04:26 PM

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Posted by Colin (Post 787065)
You're experienced in losing a lot??? Grats??

Its even more simple than that. Im experienced at playing the game. Thank you! Now the original debate or you have nothing more to say about that part??

Thallen 06-16-2017 04:28 PM

as soon as someone admits they lost sleep over this thread it'll probably top Peng's

Colin 06-16-2017 04:29 PM

You're trying to push your argument (which was disproven and won't ever happen) by claiming your opinion is more valid because you're more "experienced".

If you think sparring 13,000 times and still not getting good is "experience" IDK what to tell you, and sparring is relatively simple it doesn't require thousands and thousands of spars to know what to do

alexx 06-16-2017 04:40 PM

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Posted by Ashur (Post 787064)
I think you guys should both look up the definition of experienced. Things like.. "endured; undergone; suffered through" come up. So actually colin, yes he would be one of those, much more than either of you, "experienced" people. Also by that same definition, I technically am.

@alexx youre gonna have to play that one back in like 4x slo mo for me. That just makes little to no sense at this point. You mustve missed some of my reiforcement on last post.

I think this is the time to just drop the argument; your as stubborn and probably just as stupid as jimbo and I honestly don't see a way how to get through your thick skull so I'll just drop the convo. No idea why you are the only person who fails to understand, spare everyone your autism and just delete this thread

Sig. 06-16-2017 04:42 PM

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Posted by Jimbo (Post 787052)
Who are you, I asked around as well and I just canīt seem to know who this crybaby is that sucks up to Sarah so much

I'm perhaps not known in your VPNing scene. And how come I'm sucking up by saying she's good?

Jimbo 06-16-2017 04:53 PM

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Posted by alexx (Post 787071)
I think this is the time to just drop the argument; your as stubborn and probably just as stupid as jimbo and I honestly don't see a way how to get through your thick skull so I'll just drop the convo. No idea why you are the only person who fails to understand, spare everyone your autism and just delete this thread

You should calm down and read your own argument, because it do not make any sense, we are talking about advantages , while you have no clue what you are saying "experience"

I think it's time for you to leave the thread

super kurosaki 06-16-2017 05:03 PM

jumbo is paying someone to post on his behalf because there is no way in hell he goes from horrible broken english to decent in a matter of 2 weeks

Ashur 06-16-2017 05:07 PM

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Posted by Colin (Post 787068)
You're trying to push your argument (which was disproven and won't ever happen) by claiming your opinion is more valid because you're more "experienced".

If you think sparring 13,000 times and still not getting good is "experience" IDK what to tell you, and sparring is relatively simple it doesn't require thousands and thousands of spars to know what to do

Which factor dissproves extra controls? Mustve missed that one. Also obviously youre wrong, running is simple, can you beat the fastest guy in the world? COD is simple, can you beat the top 100? Its not zelda its other real competitive people. It absolutely does require thousands of spars to be competitively good, as it is with.. Everything else.

Areo 06-16-2017 06:12 PM

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Posted by Ashur (Post 787078)
Which factor dissproves extra controls? Mustve missed that one. Also obviously youre wrong, running is simple, can you beat the fastest guy in the world? COD is simple, can you beat the top 100? Its not zelda its other real competitive people. It absolutely does require thousands of spars to be competitively good, as it is with.. Everything else.

wait, how are running and sparring equatable in any manner?... one is 50% based on your genetics and upbringing. They aren't comparable.

Cod is also not that simple, either. The amount of variables at play are exponential in comparison to a singles spar. There are few variables at play besides lag/delay, reaction, prediction, movement, timing, and pressing the sword button. Compare that to cod, where the list of variables at play would fill up a page at the very least.

Comyt 06-16-2017 07:21 PM

it's a 5 button game with like 3 built-in game mechanics that you can learn more about to get better, being blink, hitbox differences, and diagonal speed being faster than one direction. yes, pcs have advantages (ability to strafe, processing speed), but in a simple 5 button "hit the other player 6 times" game this isn't completely imbalancing anything. keep playing and you will be able to overcome this. when i became the (at least idev) GOAT i was sparring thousands of wins per month, if you play this much i believe you will adapt and understand how everyone in this small community plays and nobody will be a struggle for you. on the other hand, if you are barely playing and expecting free passes against players who are way more active than you, that's just not how it works. if you want to win, you play more and get used to everyone. it's a 5 button game, you can't be fundamentally better than everyone who is using the same 5 buttons, it's all about adjustments to how others use their 5 buttons. it's a simple, casual game, don't go mental over it or you'll end up with 5,000 forum posts deep into your 20s.

Red 06-16-2017 09:34 PM

Ashur, you do realise you're arguing against people in this thread with around 10k-28k wins each (I myself with the 20k, Alex 28000 - unsure about others haven't really seen you go off at anyone I know)


You have lied about being from client graal, lied about how many wins you've pulled (not even top 50 in idevice and the 50th position has 145 wins and you've said to have 900+)

You refuse to listen to basic sparring logic and act all stubborn and upset when someone attempts to be reasonable and then you will immediately say they're wrong or basically call them the equivalent to a noob when I've already mentioned there are multiple people here you're arguing against with high amounts of sparring experience that's what's making you look like a ****** rn.


Summary: ashur isn't from client graal, he's a trashy sparrer upset because someone like Brett probably beat him 50 times over, refuses to listen or take on feedback, is basically a moron

Ozzy_Magus 06-16-2017 10:07 PM

I usually don't comment here, but the last message written by Comyt applies to anything, any server. That's 200% pure truth right there. It's only hardcore non-stop trying that will get you the hang of how the small community we have works. In fact it's a mere easy repeated process. I'd say all you might need, which some don't have is *time*. Other then that, it's your own choice to grind or not.

On a second note, I barely log on iC nowadays, but, I've been on the iS's since release and I'm pretty sure you're a really really old player @Comyt, correct me if wrong? I reckon seing you in the og years, or, at least someone woth the sae nick. You're one of the rare people that don't lose their consistency, spar wise. Props for that, it's rare to see people on that exact level, on iC

alexx 06-16-2017 10:17 PM

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Posted by Jimbo (Post 787074)
You should calm down and read your own argument, because it do not make any sense, we are talking about advantages , while you have no clue what you are saying "experience"

I think it's time for you to leave the thread

You are the last person I'd expect to understand basic English so I don't blame you for not understanding

Paddie 06-16-2017 10:28 PM

Stop offending Jimbo. Don't bully anyone. What kind of people are we?

aldrin 06-16-2017 10:47 PM

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Posted by Ozzy_Magus (Post 787099)
I usually don't comment here, but the last message written by Comyt applies to anything, any server. That's 200% pure truth right there. It's only hardcore non-stop trying that will get you the hang of how the small community we have works. In fact it's a mere easy repeated process. I'd say all you might need, which some don't have is *time*. Other then that, it's your own choice to grind or not.

On a second note, I barely log on iC nowadays, but, I've been on the iS's since release and I'm pretty sure you're a really really old player @Comyt, correct me if wrong? I reckon seing you in the og years, or, at least someone woth the sae nick. You're one of the rare people that don't lose their consistency, spar wise. Props for that, it's rare to see people on that exact level, on iC

lmao

Jimbo 06-16-2017 10:55 PM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 787091)
it's a 5 button game with like 3 built-in game mechanics that you can learn more about to get better, being blink, hitbox differences, and diagonal speed being faster than one direction. yes, pcs have advantages (ability to strafe, processing speed), but in a simple 5 button "hit the other player 6 times" game this isn't completely imbalancing anything. keep playing and you will be able to overcome this. when i became the (at least idev) GOAT i was sparring thousands of wins per month, if you play this much i believe you will adapt and understand how everyone in this small community plays and nobody will be a struggle for you. on the other hand, if you are barely playing and expecting free passes against players who are way more active than you, that's just not how it works. if you want to win, you play more and get used to everyone. it's a 5 button game, you can't be fundamentally better than everyone who is using the same 5 buttons, it's all about adjustments to how others use their 5 buttons. it's a simple, casual game, don't go mental over it or you'll end up with 5,000 forum posts deep into your 20s.

Conclusion: Pc players have an advantage but deal with it. You can always win if you train for it?

Nice, thanks for the encouragement

Comyt 06-16-2017 11:34 PM

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Posted by Jimbo (Post 787104)
Conclusion: Pc players have an advantage but deal with it. You can always win if you train for it?

Nice, thanks for the encouragement

pc players have an advantage in a 5 button game where you can easily adjust to predict their strafing yes
@ozzy yeah i've been here since 2009

Arsenal 06-17-2017 12:38 AM

It's just the same people arguing in each thread over and over like don't you guys get tired

Sig. 06-17-2017 01:28 AM

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Posted by Arsenal (Post 787112)
It's just the same people arguing in each thread over and over like don't you guys get tired

It's fun to read it especially when some apes with only a few developed brain cells have the urge to comment everything.


On a side note, what's your community name Ashur? I mean, if you play since 200X..

Ashur 06-17-2017 02:43 PM

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Posted by Red (Post 787097)
You have lied about being from client graal, lied about how many wins you've pulled (not even top 50 in idevice and the 50th position has 145 wins and you've said to have 900+)

You refuse to listen to basic sparring logic and act all stubborn and upset when someone attempts to be reasonable.

I didnt even intend on replying or caring further but you had to call me a liar and for what? How did i lie about either of those things? So what if im #150 for the month or #68 this week, im still missing layers of skin from sparring on my iphone alone..

I even agree with some things that have been said here and there. Instead of whining or raging, i did research and have spent even more time in the arena as i couldnt argue with much of what comyt had to say and have been greatly motivated to get better against pcs.

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Posted by Comyt (Post 787107)
pc players have an advantage in a 5 button game where you can easily adjust to predict their strafing yes

For some of us minus the easily but fair enough. Until someone trains as hard as you or sarah only on pc!! *cynical organ melody*

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Posted by Sig. (Post 787118)
On a side note, what's your community name Ashur? I mean, if you play since 200X..

Noone i knew used it, i was a little kid just playing a game most of the time. At that i still have an older graalians account then 98% of people in this thread and i still never cared much to use forums.

& further, asking anything besides what color my katars were on maloria and how i miss graal dj's, is ridiculous LOL. Remembering my client login is literally more difficult than trying to remember my first myspace login.. I know i was in the guild (Malevolence).

Kosiris 06-18-2017 06:19 AM

Can we all just acknowledge that 'alexx' is 14 and should be ignored so he stops making forum posts during class?

Force 06-18-2017 06:33 AM

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Posted by Kosiris (Post 787218)
Can we all just acknowledge that 'alexx' is 14 and should be ignored so he stops making forum posts during class?

Nice diss two days after Alexx's last post in this thread, I'm sure that'll spark some further controversy to keep the thread going, thanks. Maybe since you roasted him about his age, they'll add the iDevice room.

Darkk 06-20-2017 01:52 AM

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Posted by Jimbo (Post 787052)
Alexxx it took you a lot of time to selectively get your stats, and this is what you do: Goes into mixed rooms tries to win 10 times and if you lose 2 matches, you go into a side room to make up for your losses. You are 24/7 sparring against noobs.

I am just surprised you have the patience to selectively spar like that

He will probably deny this:
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Posted by Jimbo (Post 787332)
Just went through your cringe/made up facts and I have only done 5-6 GST in total, Rexxx has done 4 or 5

So this compulsive lying hypocrite just lost whatever little credibility he had remaining.

-Calls Alex a sideroomer *siderooms himself days later*
-Claims he’s entered 5 GSTs, in reality (that excludes Jimbo and his delusional thought process) he’s really entered 10+

Jimbo siderooming, vs what I'd assume are 1:5 ratio noobs


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