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GlazeyB 03-20-2014 02:45 AM

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Posted by Kirito (Post 461089)
If you watch it in Asuna point of View i would not quite agree with you.

That's a weak argument. "She helped so much off screen to progress the story though!"

Keeluah 03-20-2014 02:45 AM



Screw Asuna, this MAD makes Liz look better.

Tyler 03-20-2014 03:29 AM

All Mikasa aimed to do was protect Eren the entire series. She's a cool character, but honestly her sole goal in life is being Eren's bodyguard. I'm seriously tired of all the hate on Asuna. She's not that bad.

NeoZX 03-20-2014 03:30 AM

Asuna was a ****ty, bland, and horrible character.
She was great at first, but became a token girl.
She worth one thing; the fappings of many SAO fanboys that name themselves Kirito.
his name is really Karrot Top btw..

GlazeyB 03-20-2014 03:48 AM

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Posted by Tyler (Post 461098)
All Mikasa aimed to do was protect Eren the entire series. She's a cool character, but honestly her sole goal in life is being Eren's bodyguard. I'm seriously tired of all the hate on Asuna. She's not that bad.

Mikasa isn't useless though. She actually does something, unlike Asuna who did absolutely nothing but be, as mentioned below, a token girl. The dislike for the Asuna character is very much justified and the writers deserve it.

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Posted by NeoZX (Post 461099)
Asuna was a ****ty, bland, and horrible character.
She was great at first, but became a token girl.
She worth one thing; the fappings of many SAO fanboys that name themselves Kirito.
his name is really Karrot Top btw..

Someone sees the light.

NeoZX 03-20-2014 04:08 AM

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Posted by Glazey (Post 461102)
Mikasa isn't useless though. She actually does something, unlike Asuna who did absolutely nothing but be, as mentioned below, a token girl. The dislike for the Asuna character is very much justified and the writers deserve it.

Someone sees the light.

Exactly. And btw, fap, not rap.

Mejico Josh 03-20-2014 08:55 AM

Asuna is ginger, she has no soul

Tyler 03-20-2014 04:45 PM

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Posted by Glazey (Post 461102)
Mikasa isn't useless though. She actually does something, unlike Asuna who did absolutely nothing but be, as mentioned below, a token girl. The dislike for the Asuna character is very much justified and the writers deserve it.

What's the point though? Eren doesn't even want her protection. Please explain to me how it's Asuna's fault she was even in that jail cell? She attempted to escape and not rely on Kirito to save her. She did do something. Being kidnapped isn't part of her character. It's part of the story. She couldn't do **** about it. What if this scenario were to happen:

http://i.imgur.com/toykg9p.png

I guess it would be Mikasa's fault and that she would be useless...

Hadzz 03-20-2014 08:51 PM

The diference between sao characters and aots is that you actually understand saos crews feelings and even if kirito did seem a bit emotionless at times there was a reason for it kirito felt like a gateway which we got to see the anime mikasa had her parents murdered and decides to live her life in solitude (because shes batman!) which doesnt really add up to how she treasures eren so much also if shes a real badass she would know its a stupid idea to trust people and get attatched too them.basicaly aot felt like a horde of lifeless zombies to me who would simply say i feel sad or something then go hit a titan on the back of the head

Mikasa may be a more badass character but she is no more usefull or powerful than asuna

Asunas roles
-kiritos main motive
-saviour of kirito... Twice!
-takes down a lot of bosses
-founder of yui
-helps in that detective Episode
-saves thise kids from them soldiers on floor one
-much more

What mikasa did
-killed some titans
-saved eren
-helped armin in that one fight
- gave eren some bread
-helped a few people from dieing

Mikasa wasnt really that helpfull and you can argue that she was more independent but she didnt forge that machinery herself.And also she hardly even trained

There only one true way to find out the true best female lead
Make them fight!

iRiley 03-20-2014 09:25 PM

Horrendous argument.

5hift 03-20-2014 09:31 PM

Mikasa is actually strong.

Being strong in a video game doesn't count.

Mejico Josh 03-20-2014 09:43 PM

Okay lets put this out here. Sereas victoria is the best girl and always will be

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Posted by Tyler (Post 461189)
What's the point though? Eren doesn't even want her protection. Please explain to me how it's Asuna's fault she was even in that jail cell? She attempted to escape and not rely on Kirito to save her. She did do something. Being kidnapped isn't part of her character. It's part of the story. She couldn't do **** about it. What if this scenario were to happen:

http://i.imgur.com/toykg9p.png

I guess it would be Mikasa's fault and that she would be useless...

The funny thing is though is that it would'nt happen

GlazeyB 03-20-2014 09:51 PM

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Posted by Tyler (Post 461189)
What's the point though? Eren doesn't even want her protection. Please explain to me how it's Asuna's fault she was even in that jail cell? She attempted to escape and not rely on Kirito to save her. She did do something. Being kidnapped isn't part of her character. It's part of the story. She couldn't do **** about it. What if this scenario were to happen:

http://i.imgur.com/toykg9p.png

I guess it would be Mikasa's fault and that she would be useless...

That was only setting it up to be saved by our token man. If she had actually escaped herself, that would be the second thing she's done in this series that progressed the story.
Being kidnapped is never apart of anyone's character because that's a situation, not a trait. As of right now, Mikasa doesn't have what is needed to become a Titan, she would of died there and still be more plot relevant than Asuna ever was.

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Posted by Hadzz (Post 461227)
The diference between sao characters and aots is that you actually understand saos crews feelings and even if kirito did seem a bit emotionless at times there was a reason for it kirito felt like a gateway which we got to see the anime mikasa had her parents murdered and decides to live her life in solitude (because shes batman!) which doesnt really add up to how she treasures eren so much also if shes a real badass she would know its a stupid idea to trust people and get attatched too them.basicaly aot felt like a horde of lifeless zombies to me who would simply say i feel sad or something then go hit a titan on the back of the head

That would imply there was any significant character development, which there isn't. Back story isn't everything. She's isn't a Yandere whose madly in love with the male lead, she understands that having friends no matter what the situation is, is important to survive through the age that they're in.

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Mikasa may be a more badass character but she is no more usefull or powerful than asuna
The SAO Fanboy blindness is strong with this one.

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Asunas roles
-kiritos main motive
-saviour of kirito... Twice!
-takes down a lot of bosses
-founder of yui
-helps in that detective Episode
-saves thise kids from them soldiers on floor one
-much more
-Kirito's Main Motive! Every ****ing token girls role.
-At the start was very much badass and helped. The second time, standard token girl saves her man by sacrificing herself that ends up breaking the laws of the game.
-Takes down several bosses, off screen.
-Token girl finds a child that's actually a huge plot point and has little (but more than Asuna) relevance in the plot.
-Not sure on this one, it's been awhile. As I said earlier, in the starting episodes she was great, but became a token girl later on.

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What mikasa did
-killed some titans
-saved eren
-helped armin in that one fight
- gave eren some bread
-helped a few people from dieing
-Killed some titans while still being green, no big deal.
-She was assisted with them.
-Little relevance in the grand scheme, but okay. Going to point out Kirito gave Asuna butter. OMG RELEVANCE IN PLOT IS HUGE.
-This series isn't about saving people.

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Mikasa wasnt really that helpfull and you can argue that she was more independent but she didnt forge that machinery herself.And also she hardly even trained
Are you really saying that because she didn't forge the machinery herself, she's more useless? Asuna was in a ****ing video game. Do you really want to head down this route? Asuna didn't create anything, she didn't train, she didn't do anything of any relevance past the first episodes.

NeoZX 03-21-2014 01:44 AM

The cage in Sao was plenty big for her to turn sideways and escape.
Lololol

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Posted by GlazeyB (Post 461241)
That was only setting it up to be saved by our token man. If she had actually escaped herself, that would be the second thing she's done in this series that progressed the story.
Being kidnapped is never apart of anyone's character because that's a situation, not a trait. As of right now, Mikasa doesn't have what is needed to become a Titan, she would of died there and still be more plot relevant than Asuna ever was.

That would imply there was any significant character development, which there isn't. Back story isn't everything. She's isn't a Yandere whose madly in love with the male lead, she understands that having friends no matter what the situation is, is important to survive through the age that they're in.

The SAO Fanboy blindness is strong with this one.


-Kirito's Main Motive! Every ****ing token girls role.
-At the start was very much badass and helped. The second time, standard token girl saves her man by sacrificing herself that ends up breaking the laws of the game.
-Takes down several bosses, off screen.
-Token girl finds a child that's actually a huge plot point and has little (but more than Asuna) relevance in the plot.
-Not sure on this one, it's been awhile. As I said earlier, in the starting episodes she was great, but became a token girl later on.


-Killed some titans while still being green, no big deal.
-She was assisted with them.
-Little relevance in the grand scheme, but okay. Going to point out Kirito gave Asuna butter. OMG RELEVANCE IN PLOT IS HUGE.
-This series isn't about saving people.

Are you really saying that because she didn't forge the machinery herself, she's more useless? Asuna was in a ****ing video game. Do you really want to head down this route? Asuna didn't create anything, she didn't train, she didn't do anything of any relevance past the first episodes.

I respect the **** out of you.

Hadzz 03-21-2014 05:47 PM

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Posted by GlazeyB (Post 461241)
That was only setting it up to be saved by our token man. If she had actually escaped herself, that would be the second thing she's done in this series that progressed the story.
Being kidnapped is never apart of anyone's character because that's a situation, not a trait. As of right now, Mikasa doesn't have what is needed to become a Titan, she would of died there and still be more plot relevant than Asuna ever was.

That would imply there was any significant character development, which there isn't. Back story isn't everything. She's isn't a Yandere whose madly in love with the male lead, she understands that having friends no matter what the situation is, is important to survive through the age that they're in.

The SAO Fanboy blindness is strong with this one.


-Kirito's Main Motive! Every ****ing token girls role.
-At the start was very much badass and helped. The second time, standard token girl saves her man by sacrificing herself that ends up breaking the laws of the game.
-Takes down several bosses, off screen.
-Token girl finds a child that's actually a huge plot point and has little (but more than Asuna) relevance in the plot.
-Not sure on this one, it's been awhile. As I said earlier, in the starting episodes she was great, but became a token girl later on.


-Killed some titans while still being green, no big deal.
-She was assisted with them.
-Little relevance in the grand scheme, but okay. Going to point out Kirito gave Asuna butter. OMG RELEVANCE IN PLOT IS HUGE.
-This series isn't about saving people.

Are you really saying that because she didn't forge the machinery herself, she's more useless? Asuna was in a ****ing video game. Do you really want to head down this route? Asuna didn't create anything, she didn't train, she didn't do anything of any relevance past the first episodes.

I never sayed she was useless im just saying asuna wasnt a terrible character and she did fight to get where she was.sao was a virtual reality not just a game it was basicaly another world the only real diffrence between any human is in theory the human brain which is where the story is set out.And i also find sao an equal level anime to aot i prefered the cast for sao that is all i think your the blindone as you mistaked my comedy with for realism and also have ignored a lot of things which i have picked up on.I was also trying to pick up on the fact that mikasa and asuna arent too diffrent and in my opinion mikasas a bit of a token girl besides whats wrong with being a token girl and i bet you anything mikasa will eventually end up in the same state as asuna if they continued the story as im pretty sure a lot of scenes were hinting at it.

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Posted by NeoZX (Post 461304)
The cage in Sao was plenty big for her to turn sideways and escape.
Lololol


I respect the **** out of you.

I thought it was pretty obvious that the cage probably only had one real exit which was the door as it is platformed as a game ...


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