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Zetectic 01-14-2015 04:08 AM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 535214)
Did you have any "proper evidence" when you made this thread? Hypocrite much?
http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25935

lol oh god. Sorry to be the one that tells you this, but nothing in graal is a "incredible achievement"

idk how many times u have sparred. but as soon as i faced her i knew she was cheating. before i even made a thread about it. i had enough evidence, like video, pms from sarah, eye witnesses from friends. And if read the whole thread, i also took a great risk of danger. it's up to u guys.
and what is this? jealousy?
there's like hundreds of people sharing acc, not one is banned/reset for that reason. + doesn't look like she boosts when she's pking in mod.

to also answer ur second statement.
yes indeed, it is an incredible achievement. probably the best I have ever seen. i dare u nobody will do that stuff ever again. she'll be recognized by everyone very soon. just wait.
u can call her a machine, but endurance isn't an easy thing.
look if u can't do something like her, u should just shut ur mouth.

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Posted by Craftz1 (Post 535215)
So people who think she is cheating but end up being wrong should be punished? There is no logical reason for somebody to get punished for that. There is 0 harm done if she gets accused but ends up being legit.

0 harm done? it's like u putting up a press charges against an unidentified immigrant. And see if he's documented or not. If he is documented 0 harm done? lmao no it doesn't work that way.

GOAT 01-14-2015 06:38 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 535232)
idk how many times u have sparred. but as soon as i faced her i knew she was cheating. before i even made a thread about it. i had enough evidence, like video, pms from sarah, eye witnesses from friends. And if read the whole thread, i also took a great risk of danger. it's up to u guys.
and what is this? jealousy?
there's like hundreds of people sharing acc, not one is banned/reset for that reason. + doesn't look like she boosts when she's pking in mod.

to also answer ur second statement.
yes indeed, it is an incredible achievement. probably the best I have ever seen. i dare u nobody will do that stuff ever again. she'll be recognized by everyone very soon. just wait.
u can call her a machine, but endurance isn't an easy thing.
look if u can't do something like her, u should just shut ur mouth.

Put your helmet back on ******, you're going to hurt yourself.


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Posted by Zetectic (Post 535232)
idk how many times u have sparred. but as soon as i faced her i knew she was cheating. before i even made a thread about it. i had enough evidence, like video, pms from sarah, eye witnesses from friends. And if read the whole thread, i also took a great risk of danger. it's up to u guys.

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Posted by zetic
I got mad when she was inhittable whatsoever. Idk if shes abusing VPN or its just bad delay n sry 4 using sarah as a comparison, idk if she delay now, but im referring to pro spar vid 1.

doesn't sound like you were 100%. Throwing stones out of your glass house? Shut up ****** you did the same thing they're doing.


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Posted by Zetectic (Post 535232)
and what is this? jealousy?
there's like hundreds of people sharing acc, not one is banned/reset for that reason. + doesn't look like she boosts when she's pking in mod.

Yes, I'm raging with jealousy.


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Posted by Zetectic (Post 535232)
to also answer ur second statement.
yes indeed, it is an incredible achievement. probably the best I have ever seen. i dare u nobody will do that stuff ever again.

How is it possible for someone to pk 12+ hours a day?
1. they're a kid playing during the summer
2. adult with nothing to do while being fully financially supported by his/her parents
3. shared accounts

you can rule #1 out. If it's #2 I don't see that as a "incredible achievement" that's just sad. If it's #3 than how is that incredible?



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Posted by Zetectic (Post 535232)
she'll be recognized by everyone very soon. just wait.

she already is dumb dumb


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Posted by Zetectic (Post 535232)
u can call her a machine, but endurance isn't an easy thing.

That wasn't an insult ******, i was defending her/him. I spent about 3 weeks last year pkng as cute baby and I saw her/his doing her thing. I even pm her telling her she was a pk machine.


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Posted by Zetectic (Post 535232)
look if u can't do something like her, u should just shut ur mouth.

I could, but why would I? To be famous? Every tryhard in classic knows GOAT from graalians and I've only been on the server like 4 times as GOAT, ya that's how famous my main account is. To be the leader on the kill list? Every pkr knows who the big woof woof is when it comes to pk. What other reason should I do it for?

Zetectic 01-14-2015 02:51 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 535260)
doesn't sound like you were 100%. Throwing stones out of your glass house? Shut up ****** you did the same thing they're doing.



Yes, I'm raging with jealousy.



How is it possible for someone to pk 12+ hours a day?
1. they're a kid playing during the summer
2. adult with nothing to do while being fully financially supported by his/her parents
3. shared accounts

you can rule #1 out. If it's #2 I don't see that as a "incredible achievement" that's just sad. If it's #3 than how is that incredible?




she already is dumb dumb



That wasn't an insult ******, i was defending her/him. I spent about 3 weeks last year pkng as cute baby and I saw her/his doing her thing. I even pm her telling her she was a pk machine.

rofl I already knew she was cheating. Sarah even told me that she was cheating. I wasn't just sure if it was just vpn or something else that delays purposely. It turns out to be double device method.

I can pk 12 hours a day if I have given up everything. I can just **** all and be like her, but only difference between her and I is that she can long run and I get easily bored. That's why it's such an 'incredible' achievement. Not many people can do that even with the exact same condition like her.

and forum trollers shouldn't be raging (;

GOAT 01-14-2015 07:11 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 535319)
rofl I already knew she was cheating. Sarah even told me that she was cheating. I wasn't just sure if it was just vpn or something else that delays purposely. It turns out to be double device method

So what was your "proper evidence" if you knew she was cheating. You did not have any evidence, just a hunch that she was cheating. Look at your own words, you weren't even right on how she was cheating. Old man stalker had to figure it out for you. He knows a way to stalk peoples account to see if 2 accounts are related. He hasn't said how because he doesn't know if it will get him banned.
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...&postcount=107



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Posted by Zetectic (Post 535319)
I can pk 12 hours a day if I have given up everything. I can just **** all and be like her, but only difference between her and I is that she can long run and I get easily bored. That's why it's such an 'incredible' achievement. Not many people can do that even with the exact same condition like her.

So giving up your entire real life to get kills on classic is "incredible"? lol like Dusty said, it's a case where we agree to disagree.



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Posted by Zetectic (Post 535319)
and forum trollers shouldn't be raging (;

The question is, Am I "raging"(rawr) or trolling you? You try to shame other people for the same thing you did to Jigsaw, so I made you look like a hypocrite. Made the pkng machine look like a no-life loser after I explained how it was possible for her to pk so much(all thx to you which is funny since you were desperately trying to save her reputation). I get it, the pk machine is your friend and Jigsaw was not, so that's why you're being a hypocrite. It's ok dude just don't do it again I got my eyes on you (always looking for my next troll <3)



lol noobs just don't learn

Zetectic 01-14-2015 08:03 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 535359)
So what was your "proper evidence" if you knew she was cheating. You did not have any evidence, just a hunch that she was cheating. Look at your own words, you weren't even right on how she was cheating. Old man stalker had to figure it out for you. He knows a way to stalk peoples account to see if 2 accounts are related. He hasn't said how because he doesn't know if it will get him banned.
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...&postcount=107




So giving up your entire real life to get kills on classic is "incredible"? lol like Dusty said, it's a case where we agree to disagree.




The question is, Am I "raging"(rawr) or trolling you? You try to shame other people for the same thing you did to Jigsaw, so I made you look like a hypocrite. Made the pkng machine look like a no-life loser after I explained how it was possible for her to pk so much(all thx to you which is funny since you were desperately trying to save her reputation). I get it, the pk machine is your friend and Jigsaw was not, so that's why you're being a hypocrite. It's ok dude just don't do it again I got my eyes on you (always looking for my next troll <3)



lol noobs just don't learn

tell me what's the proper evidence in ur words? for me, the video was a proper evidence.
Ash is accusing her with his math logic and some eye witnesses. That is not a proper evidence. People have different perspective at various moments so eye witnesses could be wrong and 3.3kills a minute is definitely possible if she just gets on to pk.

Well u can disagree with me, but I call this incredible. I try to pk till 100k, I had similar condition 'like her' where my parent can support me financially and i was in summer vacation doing nothing. I got extremely tired after 15k pk and it's grit something i really don't have. I'll still recognize her as a great, not yet incredible pker.

and i'm not trying to shame other people. I wasn't just convinced enough and I am very stubborn until I fully understand ur ideas and logic. U can influence me with ur evidence. People on other thread made me upset because they were just running their mouth without any actual proof.

Being honest with u, idc if u report her or not. it's up to ur own risk. but come up with better evidence that u can convince me to believe u.
III isn't my friend lol, I don't even know her name, but she doesn't deserve to get reset because they think that she's cheating.




and go learn better trolls from mbk

Colin 01-14-2015 08:42 PM

The average school is 6-7 hours, 12+6/7 = 18/19.

I stay up for 18 hours every day, and sleep for 4 or less each night while attending school and performing academically well so it is very possible he/she can do this. If they're an adult they can easily work from home and have good financial standard - my uncle works at home for the counter terrorism technology unit and could easily do what she does if he played and was dedicated enough.

You can easily clock in multiple kills in less than 10 seconds if you PK in the right areas, not saying she does it a constant rate but she can easily do it enough to where her kills per day could easily be from a few hours of PK'ing (she's even offline right now).

So mathematically he/she has the proof that it is possible to do alone without the help of others or third party programs.

Craftz 01-14-2015 09:59 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 535232)
0 harm done? it's like u putting up a press charges against an unidentified immigrant. And see if he's documented or not. If he is documented 0 harm done? lmao no it doesn't work that way.

It's a game lmao. I don't see how you should be punished for being wrong. I'm sorry but your ideas are quite ******ed.

Zetectic 01-14-2015 11:02 PM

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Posted by Craftz1 (Post 535398)
It's a game lmao. I don't see how you should be punished for being wrong. I'm sorry but your ideas are quite ******ed.

ay game or not does not matter. if it's a rule, u gotta follow.

In real life, if u just randomly accuse someone who have done nothing wrong u get to be punished.
Graal is made by people, therefore laws are made by people.

The maximum penalty for the charge of false accusations (Section 314 of the Crimes Act) is seven years imprisonment.
In NSW, a court can impose any of the following penalties for a false accusations charge.
Section 10: false accusations proven but dismissed
  • Fine
  • Good behaviour bond
  • Community service order (CSO)
  • Suspended sentence
  • Intensive correction order (previously periodic detention)
  • Periodic detention
  • Prison sentence

GOAT 01-15-2015 02:03 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 535371)
tell me what's the proper evidence in ur words? for me, the video was a proper evidence.
Ash is accusing her with his math logic and some eye witnesses. That is not a proper evidence. People have different perspective at various moments so eye witnesses could be wrong and 3.3kills a minute is definitely possible if she just gets on to pk.

yeah, you right. The first thing that came to my head when I saw the video was that she was using 2 devices.


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Posted by Zetectic (Post 535371)
Well u can disagree with me, but I call this incredible.

I talked to Dr. Obvious and he told me that "we agree to disagree" implies this. Meaning no wrong or right just different opinion regarding the subject matter.



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Posted by Zetectic (Post 535371)
Being honest with u, idc if u report her or not. it's up to ur own risk. but come up with better evidence that u can convince me to believe u.
III isn't my friend lol, I don't even know her name, but she doesn't deserve to get reset because they think that she's cheating.

This is why I love this troll. Tell me where I accused her of cheating or said I would report her. In case you missed it the last 2 times, I was arguing for her not against her. Go back and read pls :\



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Posted by Colin (Post 535387)
I stay up for 18 hours every day, and sleep for 4 or less each night while attending school and performing academically well so it is very possible he/she can do this. If they're an adult they can easily work from home and have good financial standard - my uncle works at home for the counter terrorism technology unit and could easily do what she does if he played and was dedicated enough.

18 + 4 = 22 hmmm what do you do with the 2 other hours? To troll or not to troll this noob, that is the question.



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Posted by Colin (Post 535387)
The average school is 6-7 hours, 12+6/7 = 18/19.

I stay up for 18 hours every day, and sleep for 4 or less each night while attending school and performing academically well so it is very possible he/she can do this.

So mathematically he/she has the proof that it is possible to do alone without the help of others or third party programs.

24(hrs in a day) - 12(hrs play time)=12 hrs 12(hrs) - 4(hrs of sleep)= 8 hrs 8(hrs) - 6(hrs of school)= 2 hrs

ok so you have 2 hours free. How much of that time goes to driving to and from school? How much of that goes into eating dinner? How much of that time goes into getting ready for school/sleep(showering, hygiene, and dressing up) What about studying/HW?

So no it's not "mathematically" possible to do that and maintain good grades. You should try playing 12 hours a day to see if you're going to "perform well academically"


Note: I'm being generous with the 4 hours of sleep. I doubt there are many teens that can go with 4 hours of sleep on a constant basis.



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Posted by Colin (Post 535387)
If they're an adult they can easily work from home and have good financial standard - my uncle works at home for the counter terrorism technology unit and could easily do what she does if he played and was dedicated enough.

you always trying to kiss old mans ass and you miss the perfect opportunity.

The old man "works from home, lives alone", and plays graal 18 hrs a day. He would've been a better example.



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Posted by Colin (Post 535387)
You can easily clock in multiple kills in less than 10 seconds if you PK in the right areas, not saying she does it a constant rate but she can easily do it enough to where her kills per day could easily be from a few hours of PK'ing (she's even offline right now).

You should test it and see how fast you can get 2k kills. 4pm western time should be your best bet to get the most kills.

Craftz 01-15-2015 02:12 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 535408)
ay game or not does not matter. if it's a rule, u gotta follow.

In real life, if u just randomly accuse someone who have done nothing wrong u get to be punished.
Graal is made by people, therefore laws are made by people.

The maximum penalty for the charge of false accusations (Section 314 of the Crimes Act) is seven years imprisonment.
In NSW, a court can impose any of the following penalties for a false accusations charge.
Section 10: false accusations proven but dismissed
  • Fine
  • Good behaviour bond
  • Community service order (CSO)
  • Suspended sentence
  • Intensive correction order (previously periodic detention)
  • Periodic detention
  • Prison sentence

You can't just take the rules of a country and apply them to an international game. And by your logic the people accusing her of cheating should face real world punishment?

GOAT 01-15-2015 02:14 AM

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Posted by Craftz1 (Post 535442)
You can't just take the rules of a country and apply them to an international game. And by your logic the people accusing her of cheating should face real world punishment?

the lethal injection :D

Colin 01-15-2015 02:21 AM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 535440)



18 + 4 = 22 hmmm what do you do with the 2 other hours? To troll or not to troll this noob, that is the question.




24(hrs in a day) - 12(hrs play time)=12 hrs 12(hrs) - 4(hrs of sleep)= 8 hrs 8(hrs) - 6(hrs of school)= 2 hrs

ok so you have 2 hours free. How much of that time goes to driving to and from school? How much of that goes into eating dinner? How much of that time goes into getting ready for school/sleep(showering, hygiene, and dressing up) What about studying/HW?

So no it's not "mathematically" possible to do that and maintain good grades. You should try playing 12 hours a day to see if you're going to "perform well academically"


Note: I'm being generous with the 4 hours of sleep. I doubt there are many teens that can go with 4 hours of sleep on a constant basis.




you always trying to kiss old mans ass and you miss the perfect opportunity.

The old man "works from home, lives alone", and plays graal 18 hrs a day. He would've been a better example.




You should test it and see how fast you can get 2k kills. 4pm western time should be your best bet to get the most kills.

I chose 18 as the number of hours I stayed up for because I was comparing the amount she would have to stay up to do this while attending school, thus the other two others I did not account for is either apart of my day meaning I stay up for more than 18 hours or just some times I sleep for 5-6 hours it varies.

I spend less than 20 minutes preparing for school and maybe one or two hours on homework, and I actually usually play World of Warcraft all day/night and still perform well in schooling.

You need to realize she doesn't play 12+ hours a day every single day, some days it is more and some it is less therefore it is still mathematically possible as we aren't dealing with a constant variable so the equation can change at any given time.

Fulgore 01-15-2015 02:23 AM

Looks through page 5.

Nothing to do with the thread.

GOAT 01-15-2015 02:39 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 535446)
I chose 18 as the number of hours I stayed up for because I was comparing the amount she would have to stay up to do this while attending school, thus the other two others I did not account for is either apart of my day meaning I stay up for more than 18 hours or just some times I sleep for 5-6 hours it varies.

so are you choosing a # or saying the actual # you stay up. i can chose 22 hrs of play time and 2 hrs of sleep time for the sake of arguing, but what's the point if it's not true.

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Posted by Colin (Post 535446)
I stay up for more than 18 hours or just some times I sleep for 5-6 hours it varies.

ok so you went from 4 hrs or less to 5-6 hours of sleep. Are you choosing just for the sake of arguing?


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Posted by Colin (Post 535446)
I spend less than 20 minutes preparing for school and maybe one or two hours on homework

You sound like a 5 minute shower type of guy, but I'm sure girls need more than 20 minutes to get ready.


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Posted by Colin (Post 535446)
I stay up for more than 18 hours or just some times I sleep for 5-6 hours it varies.

If that's the case then you lose the 2 hours for HW and getting ready. Now it's even harder to believe that mathematically is possible.



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Posted by Colin (Post 535446)
You need to realize she doesn't play 12+ hours a day every single day, some days it is more and some it is less therefore it is still mathematically possible as we aren't dealing with a constant variable so the equation can change at any given time.

That's why I told you to pk to see how fast you can get 2k kills. So YOU can realize how long it takes to get 2k.



Are you in HS?

Colin 01-15-2015 02:45 AM

You literally make me semi-depressed.

I do stay up for 18H and sometimes more, I said 18 because I was stating the fact it is possible for people to do it (because I do).

I didn't really go from 4 hours or less to 5-6, sometimes I over sleep a bit but my usual schedule consists of 4 or less, as for the "losing two hours of homework" do you think I am staying up for 18 hours staring into the void?? I do the homework and other activities in that 18 hours and so does she. Like I said she isn't always on for 12 hours a day therefore she clearly has free time to do these activities.

2K isn't that long, that takes only a few hours you realize that right? I would show you but I am banned.

You seem to really suck with understanding basic concepts.

You are really bad at trolling so I am leaving this thread good bye.


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