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Posted by Sardon (Post 557131)

I heard these people can do magic, is their any proof of this

Yeah, this kind of magic.

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Posted by Common Sense (Post 556937)

There's a book called YOUCAT written by the previous pope, Pope Benedict. He answers many questions about our faith. You seem to have this mindset that if you don't believe in one tiny detail in the Bible, we're going to die. That's not how we are at all. You should stop making assumptions based off of what you've heard from other people. A question asked in YOUCAT is if we can believe in the theory of evolution and still be Catholic. Simply put, the answer is yes. God is not going to leave us to rot if we are homosexuals, or if we believe in the theory of evolution. Seriously, open your mind and start to learn a little more about our religion. Your view on it seems to be a bit chaotic.

Also, look around you. People who aren't even Catholic are living good lives as good people. They're unknowingly following the Ten Commandments. If you're not Catholic or Christian, then maybe you won't follow the first three, but the other seven are just basic ways of being good people. Just because you're an atheist does not mean you have to rebel against everything we say. The Ten Commandments say to respect our parents, to not commit adultery, not to steal, not to murder, and more. These are just basic things we should follow as people, no matter what religion we are. If you aren't Christian, does that mean you're just going to be disrespecting your parents? Cheating on every girlfriend you have? Stealing left and right? Killing every other person you see? No. None of these things are good things to do, not just as Christians, but as people in general.

Yeah seriously, I don't know why everyone thinks Catholics think that if you don't follow a simple rule, you're going to hell. If you work at a foster home, work with disabled kids, volunteer at senior centers, save abandoned dogs and cats, and raise money to get cleaner water in Africa, but you don't believe in God, does that mean you're to hell? You guys are the only people saying yes, but to us Catholics, as long as you live a good life and are a good person, you'll be good. But stuff that's serious like multiple murders or multiple rapes are things you need to ask forgiveness for.

Um, aren't you doing the exact same thing? Making assumptions?

What's that smell? Oh yeah, it's hypocrisy.

But my so called assumptions are not assumptions at all. My knowledge is based on a professional interpretation of the bible, and not based on the mass interpretation of society. I'm sure my dad is more educated than you are on this topic, so I'm going to go ahead and listen to him instead.

Also, I'd like to note that you should probably leave personal beliefs out, because my original intention was not to start a flame war based on who believes in what, but rather to state a flaw in a system.

All hail Arceus, our lord and savior.

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Posted by TWIZ

My knowledge is based on a professional interpretation of the bible, and not based on the mass interpretation of society.

Society as a whole interprets the Bible. Let's not be pretentious.

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Posted by Draenin (Post 557084)

Or how about you abandon it? Nobody's forcing you to post here.
Catholics are all about rules and repentance. That's why they have confession while other religions don't. They believe that there's a lot of stuff which counts as sin, but even if you repent on your deathbed, you may be forgiven.

However, Catholics in particular are starting to change their views a lot. It's mostly due to scandal in their church (let's not go into that) and the fact that they are alienating people from it. Pope Francis is probably one of the best representatives the church has had in recent years, because he understands that The Holy Bible is not a living text meant for a literal interpretation, but partly a book of history, laws, and stories about morality. There are many laws that we do not take literally today because it would be crazy to do so. (No working on Sunday, no eating shrimp, no touching women when they are menstruating, no wearing clothes with more than one type of fabric, etc.)

I must agree that in recent years a lot of things have changed in the Catholic faith. Pope Francis has been making a lot of changes, and, in my opinion as well, is the best pope the church has had. There are definitely rules that once were that aren't now, and being that they would have had to be changed by a pope I have no problem with it.
I know little about Catholicism compared to how much there is to know about it. So I'm probably not the best to go into detail in this thread :0

Religion, as a term, to me is just following a group of people and doing what they say is right. Which one is right is a thing that really can't be answered until death. Too bad your dead and can't tell anyone.

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Posted by Asaiki (Post 556972)

dafuq.
LOL = Lucifer our Lord.

ILLUMINATI IS REAL LETS DRINK MOUNTAIN DEWW..

Surely I'm not the only one who thinks asaiki is the next Neo? You know, because he spams posts that don't contribute to anything?

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Posted by Sardon (Post 557131)

Im christian buti think some of the satanic laws have a point such as dont hurt children.

I heard these people can do magic, is their any proof of this

Not sure about proof, but I have been told that some followers of satanism can use black magic of sorts. Curses and such I suppose. If you meant satanists.

I'm Catholic in Faith, Mormon in my Actions ;) Lmfaoooo

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Posted by Spirit19 (Post 557268)

Not sure about proof, but I have been told that some followers of satanism can use black magic of sorts. Curses and such I suppose. If you meant satanists.

I do beleive in magic so im interested in what they are able to do

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Posted by Draenin (Post 557149)

Yeah, this kind of magic.

That is black magic

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Posted by Draenin (Post 557149)

Yeah, this kind of magic.

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/98/984f...8a8fa384d6.jpg

One of the best things people can do to understand The Holy Bible, in my opinion, is to read Sparknotes or other similar sites about it.

It's a book that is interpreted very differently by everyone, and so it's more worthwhile to get an unbiased, sterile, and boring overview of the whole thing because if you cherry pick through it and read individual passages, the scriptures use very powerful and elevated language that skew the overall meaning of the work.

It's a complicated book about a lot of things at once, and people who go to church often don't talk about it as a whole. I think that's a huge problem with a lot of religions today. They can't see the forest for the trees, and rely on priests or ministers to spoon-feed it to them.

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Posted by Draenin (Post 558062)

I agree with this. I actually disagree with priests in some areas of the bible. It's an interesting book from a literary point of view as well. Especially Exodus.

I freaking love your comments, man.

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Posted by Goddess (Post 557830)

I'm Catholic in Faith, Mormon in my Actions ;) Lmfaoooo

That's like, 70% of Catholics lol

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Posted by Spirit19 (Post 558117)

It's an interesting book from a literary point of view as well. Especially Exodus.

The New Testament is fairly interesting too, but for different reasons.

It is primarily about the life of Jesus of Nazareth, but there were a lot of external political factors going on at the time that led to his trial and execution.

Again, I like to look at the story from a very impartial perspective, because like a lot of stuff in the Old Testament, it requires some knowledge of the laws that were in place at the time.

Basically, after the Hebrews freed themselves from Egypt and began building their own nation, it went into decline due to a bunch of really stupid leaders. Then the Romans came into the area and basically took advantage of the power vacuum that was going on.

Eventually, they crossed paths with Jesus, who at the time was trying to kick a bunch of people out of a temple because they were doing things like selling sacrificial animals and coins converted for donations to people at high prices. He said 'his father's house' had been made into 'a den of robbers' and the Romans asked if he was proclaiming himself to be the 'King of Jews.' He said he was, and the Romans saw that as a direct threat to their current leader.

So, like many other people, the Romans crucified him because that was standard practice at the time for executions. But Jesus didn't put up much resistance, because he wanted to fulfill the long-held Hebrew prophecy of a coming Messiah.

Speaking of fulfillment. I like the way that the New Testament has certain aspects that link it directly and indirectly to the Old Testament. Not sure if you noticed them at all.

Also, I wasn't aware that he actually confessed to being "King of Jews". I thought he said "so you say I am" and then they gave into the crowd wanting him dead so as not to start a riot, but they never actually found him guilty of anything. The Jewish leaders wanted him dead for "blasphemy". Personally I think they were just mad because he made them look bad.