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kenthefruit 09-19-2015 08:40 AM

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Posted by Brick (Post 615437)
People act as if Trump becoming president would be the worst thing this world has ever seen, when in reality it would be a pretty minor issue. Sure, he might do a few things people will disagree with. Every president does. But he wouldn't have absolute power, as some seem to believe. It's a democracy, not a dictatorship. This isn't the second coming of Hitler. There have been worse presidents.

no one is worse than Bush.

Mio 09-19-2015 09:54 AM

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Posted by Brick (Post 615437)
People act as if Trump becoming president would be the worst thing this world has ever seen, when in reality it would be a pretty minor issue. Sure, he might do a few things people will disagree with. Every president does. But he wouldn't have absolute power, as some seem to believe. It's a democracy, not a dictatorship. This isn't the second coming of Hitler. There have been worse presidents.

Minor things can do huge things in the economy. :'(

Fulgore 09-19-2015 12:29 PM

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Posted by Brick (Post 615437)
People act as if Trump becoming president would be the worst thing this world has ever seen, when in reality it would be a pretty minor issue. Sure, he might do a few things people will disagree with. Every president does. But he wouldn't have absolute power, as some seem to believe. It's a democracy, not a dictatorship. This isn't the second coming of Hitler. There have been worse presidents.

Yeah people seem to forget the long list of blunders of our current presidency. As well as the Carter era. And even though I would have voted for him if I were old enough at the time, Bush was no good either. In fact, I think if Trump were to get elected it would be the best president we'd have since the turn of the century.

Imprint 09-19-2015 03:04 PM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 615467)
Yeah people seem to forget the long list of blunders of our current presidency. As well as the Carter era. And even though I would have voted for him if I were old enough at the time, Bush was no good either. In fact, I think if Trump were to get elected it would be the best president we'd have since the turn of the century.

But he hasn't said anything of substance. We know what policies Paul, Fiorina or even Carson would enact. But Trump just says vague rhetoric about his wall (that mexico will pay for) and international relations (that he claims will be easy because he's a people person). Beyond that I think he's stated a couple times that he's going to have an escalating income tax and close loopholes, but he doesn't really have a platform to speak of.

RegretFromGraal 09-19-2015 03:10 PM

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Posted by fsh (Post 612950)
Trump as president

HAHAHA I CANT LAUGHING

fsh 09-19-2015 04:08 PM

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Posted by RegretFromGraal (Post 615481)
HAHAHA I CANT LAUGHING

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/.../680/dxnMD.jpg

RegretFromGraal 09-19-2015 05:04 PM

Just playin, but saying Donald Trump will win is like saying Alumni will win Idev and Mixed Gst, a 50%/50%

Talon 09-19-2015 07:32 PM

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Posted by RegretFromGraal (Post 615493)
Just playin, but saying Donald Trump will win is like saying Alumni will win Idev and Mixed Gst, a 50%/50%

pls

comics 09-19-2015 08:55 PM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 615423)
I'm not trying to stop anyone from throwing their vote away, nobody here is. People have every right to do so. But that is what they're doing. Aside, voting is a duty, not a chore. Aside #2, what matters in an election is NOT your personal feelings of who you voted for/how you feel about that outcome. The purpose of an election is not to spurn feelings in the voter. The purpose of an election is to decide upon a leader that can better the United States. Nobody cares how you feel about it. It happens. If somebody refuses to vote or votes for some bull**** candidate with no chance of winning they don't have any right to utter a word of complaint about the new presidency until the next election, because they did absolutely nothing significant to try and change it.

Voting for a candidate who actually has a chance with similar views to your favorite candidate isn't bandwagoning, it's actually making a difference in the election. When you become eligible to vote, whenever that may be, I PRAY that you start to mature and realize this, as this is a pretty big problem with the nation anyway as of current.

If people want to run around and vote for Deez Nuts, nobody is stopping them. But there isn't even an argument as to how doing this type of **** is an intelligent decision by any means.

I really wanna give you some rep, but apparently I already have in the past for something, but I forget honestly what for.
*high5* dude.

5hift 09-19-2015 10:08 PM

You don't get the right to complain if you either didn't ****ing vote or just voted for the sake of voting.

Your vote is meant to make a difference so USE IT TO MAKE A DIFFERANCE INSTEAD OF JUST ADDING ON TO THE WINNING SIDE.

I don't get how to guys don't think your votes are meant to be representative of YOU as an individual.

Telling me to grow up doesn't get you anywhere. In fact, I'd rather not boast but at least I can man up to what I think is right. Doesn't that make me "mature"?

Geez you guys should identify as brick walls at this point.

Seriously, at this point I dont give a **** about who you vote for at this point.

Just the fact that you guys would even think of something as totally spineless as that is just astounding.

GlazeyB 09-19-2015 11:00 PM

The current system doesn't allow any other candidate other than those from the Democratic or Republican parties to thrive or even be known unless you're into politics, which most people are not.


Throwing your vote into a party you support, even if it isn't one of the main two, is nice and all. but that vote literally means **** cause it's below 1% that anyone other than a republican/democratic nominee will get any coverage and have their names thrown out there. The beginning is always about having your name out there so people recognize it.


So, when people say that they're just going to vote for one of the main parties instead of one that they fully support, it's normal because that's how the system works. Telling people who care very little about politics to do what you're saying instead of telling them reform is needed, is disheartening. "your vote matters" is a lie. It doesn't unless if it's for one of the two major parties who have twisted and corrupted the system.


tl;dr Your vote matters=You'll use the pythagorean theorem in life all the time.

Fulgore 09-19-2015 11:04 PM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 615563)
You don't get the right to complain if you either didn't ****ing vote or just voted for the sake of voting.

Your vote is meant to make a difference so USE IT TO MAKE A DIFFERANCE INSTEAD OF JUST ADDING ON TO THE WINNING SIDE.

I don't get how to guys don't think your votes are meant to be representative of YOU as an individual.

Telling me to grow up doesn't get you anywhere. In fact, I'd rather not boast but at least I can man up to what I think is right. Doesn't that make me "mature"?

Geez you guys should identify as brick walls at this point.

Seriously, at this point I dont give a **** about who you vote for at this point.

Just the fact that you guys would even think of something as totally spineless as that is just astounding.

For the 4th time now, "winning side" does not mean "candidate that has a chance whatsoever" and that isn't really refutable. If people are going to go vote for someone who has 0 probability of winning then they can, that's their right. And nobody is stopping you if that's what you think is right. But this is a forum where people share opinions man. I'm not forcing mine upon you, but your "logical" arguments against this opinion flailing around are making me smile every time now. It is in many people's beliefs that doing what you describe is virtually voting for nothing, because that vote made 0 impact towards the election. Everyone knows there are 2 primary candidates in the general election. Unless times change (which I hope they do) the only way to have an impact is to pick one. Primaries are different. There are lots of options in a primary for people to vote for, and votes for candidates that aren't necessarily at the top can still make a difference. But we're talking about a general election here.

That isn't spineless, that's doing what you can do actually impact the election.

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Posted by GlazeyB (Post 615577)
The current system doesn't allow any other candidate other than those from the Democratic or Republican parties to thrive or even be known unless you're into politics, which most people are not.


Throwing your vote into a party you support, even if it isn't one of the main two, is nice and all. but that vote literally means **** cause it's below 1% that anyone other than a republican/democratic nominee will get any coverage and have their names thrown out there. The beginning is always about having your name out there so people recognize it.


So, when people say that they're just going to vote for one of the main parties instead of one that they fully support, it's normal because that's how the system works. Telling people who care very little about politics to do what you're saying instead of telling them reform is needed, is disheartening. "your vote matters" is a lie. It doesn't unless if it's for one of the two major parties who have twisted and corrupted the system.


tl;dr Your vote matters=You'll use the pythagorean theorem in life all the time.

Basically this also.

It would be fantastic if the third party candidates had a system in which they could thrive, and the libertarian party is indeed on a rise especially in youth nowadays. Maybe one day we'll see it able to compete with the main two parties as of current.

HON3Y BADG3R 09-19-2015 11:16 PM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 615563)
You don't get the right to complain if you either didn't ****ing vote or just voted for the sake of voting.

Actually as a citizen of the US, you are garuntueed the freedom of speech under any circumstances. This includes the right to complain, such as the way you are doing right now.


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Posted by 5hift (Post 615563)
Geez you guys should identify as brick walls at this point.

I think you meant to say Deez.... DEEZ NUTZ! HAH! GOT EM!

5hift 09-19-2015 11:39 PM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 615578)
That isn't spineless, that's doing what you can do actually impact the election.

You won't impact the election if you just vote for the side that is already winning.

The reason why third party candidates get so little attention is because of **** like this.

"Oh I like so and so but this other candidate on the democratic/republican side is getting more attention so I might as well look there."

WTF is this? You're not benefiting the winning side at all whatsoever if you add use your only vote for them so cast your vote to the person you like the most regardless of where they stand in the election.

THAT VOTE WILL MATTER FOR THAT CANDIDATE SO THEREFORE YOU WILL ACTUALLY BE MAKING A DIFFERENCE.

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Posted by HON3Y BADG3R (Post 615581)
Actually as a citizen of the US, you are garuntueed the freedom of speech under any circumstances.

Yeah people who vote for some random candidate they don't even know about and a year later they **** up the world for them.

Do they get the right to complain?

Of course they ****ing don't, they voted for them FFS.

**** it.

Communist Russia it is then.

HON3Y BADG3R 09-19-2015 11:40 PM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 615589)
Yeah people who vote for some random candidate they don't even know about and a year later they **** up the world for them.

Do they get the right to complain?

Of course they ****ing don't, they voted for them FFS.

Actually as a citizen of the US, you are garuntueed the freedom of speech under any circumstances.


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