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Skyzer 12-23-2015 03:15 AM

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The thing with these new characters that can use the Force is they aren't Jedi and they aren't Sith. They are Force Sensitive. They are not properly trained to use the Force like the Jedi or Sith. These new Force Sensitives are not taught the same principles as the Jedi Order. They are emotional and follow what they believe is right--similar to Anakin who fell to the Dark Side of the Force.

The title of the movie is very appropriate--the Force has awakened anew.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 12-23-2015 03:23 PM

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I really hope rey isn't lukes daughter. Starwars has way too man coincidences that it would probably piss me off if "rey, who was abandoned on a planet who happens to find a stormtrooper deserter, who happens to have plans for the rebel base, to then coincidentally find han solos ship and then coincidentally be picked up by han solo to fight kylo who coincidentally is hans son, is also coincidentally lukes daughter." And that is just from this movie.
Starwars has too many coincidences, there is literally a universe out there and there is no way everything should be linked.

Reno 12-23-2015 03:29 PM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 648846)
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I really hope rey isn't lukes daughter. Starwars has way too man coincidences that it would probably piss me off if "rey, who was abandoned on a planet who happens to find a stormtrooper deserter, who happens to have plans for the rebel base, to then coincidentally find han solos ship and then coincidentally be picked up by han solo to fight kylo who coincidentally is hans son, is also coincidentally lukes daughter." And that is just from this movie.
Starwars has too many coincidences, there is literally a universe out there and there is no way everything should be linked.

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The issue with that is the Lucas always wanted the saga to be "generational" in nature... I agree that it would be one hell of a stretch if she's Skywalker's daughter x.x. Hopefully she's just some random lady who's super force sensitive.

Pr0m4N V.14 12-23-2015 07:48 PM

"Super sensitive"

She like, just had some random vision, did mind tricks out of nowhere, and could wield a lightsaber?

SHE IS FREAKING YODA MAN

Brick 12-25-2015 06:45 PM

There's a theory going around that I'd like to share with you all. If you don't want the movie spoiled, or any future movies spoiled, don't read this.

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So apparently some people think Snoke is actually Darth Plagueis. Darth Plagueis was Darth Sidious' (Emperor Palpatine's) mentor. So do you think they're bringing in this even bigger and badder sith lord to be the main antagonist? Also, Darth Plagueis is said to be Anakin Skywalker's father, as he is able to create life by using the force (as well as keep people from dying). What do you guys think?

Vulcan Blaze 12-25-2015 07:31 PM

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Posted by Brick (Post 650198)
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So apparently some people think Snoke is actually Darth Plagueis. Darth Plagueis was Darth Sidious' (Emperor Palpatine's) mentor. So do you think they're bringing in this even bigger and badder sith lord to be the main antagonist? Also, Darth Plagueis is said to be Anakin Skywalker's father, as he is able to create life by using the force (as well as keep people from dying). What do you guys think?

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He actually reminded me a bit of Darth Plagueis, in terms of the way I imagined him. The theory is a good one, however Palpatine does say that he killed him in his sleep, unless somehow he did not die.

"Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith so powerful and so wise, he could use the Force to influence the midi-chlorians to create life. He had such a knowledge of the dark side, he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying."
―Palpatine

"Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew. Then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself."
―Palpatine, to Anakin Skywalker

Incognito 12-25-2015 08:18 PM

Here's another theory that is extremely crazy but...it could work really well actually


TWIZ 12-26-2015 05:34 AM

Quote:

Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 648846)
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I really hope rey isn't lukes daughter. Starwars has way too man coincidences that it would probably piss me off if "rey, who was abandoned on a planet who happens to find a stormtrooper deserter, who happens to have plans for the rebel base, to then coincidentally find han solos ship and then coincidentally be picked up by han solo to fight kylo who coincidentally is hans son, is also coincidentally lukes daughter." And that is just from this movie.
Starwars has too many coincidences, there is literally a universe out there and there is no way everything should be linked.

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but it was the force that guided her, which doesn't make it a coincidence. She probably would have never searched for Luke if it wasn't for his lightsaber, which was due to the force in the first place. The only bad coincidence was the Chewy and Han meetup.

Mount 12-26-2015 06:01 AM

I liked it but it was dangerously too close to the story frame of 'New Hope'

Sir 12-26-2015 09:19 AM

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WARNING: ENTIRE PLOT OF STAR WARS EPISODE VIII:
OKAY, so Harrison Ford and Hayden Christiansen (ugh) have been cast for Episode VIII. Star Wars does NOT do flashbacks so that's out of the question. So Snoke is Darth Plageous of course, and keeps talking about completing Ben's training aka teaching him everything he knows, including the ability to bring back the ones you care about (also finishing what Vader started). So being the Darth Vader fanboy he is, brings him back. Comes back as Anakin (as seen at end of episode VI) had a wtf moment, break more **** with his lightsabre in another tantrum. And Anakin makes Ben pull his head out of his *** and eventually brings his dad, Han back. Luke finally gets more screen time and it's all used on him bawling at finally getting to be with his dad (cue cheesy 80's bonding music, and scenes of father son activities such as camping, learning to ride a bike, etc.) The two sets enter a father son summer camp competition. All while the competition is going on Finn and Rey are off to the side crying. Leia asks what is going on and they both mention how they don't know who their parents are. Leia explains that she is their mother. Finn with Lando, and Rey with Jabba. Poe flys in after it is announced that their skills are balanced, as well as the force now, resulting in a tie. Poe starts to walk away before he is questioned. "What's wrong, bro?" Finn asked, puzzled. "I know that Leia's my mother, I can feel it through the force... but, I-I don't know who my father is..." Poe answered. "I am your father Luke said, emerging from the crowd. Ben is u phased, everyone else gasped, disappointed in their mother, Finn re-joined the First Order, and Rey moved back to Jakku, Han had a heart attack and died again. Anakin cuts his own head off, and THAT causes Ben to rage quit as well. The movie ends with Darth Plageous turning out to have been watching the whole thing on TV. He turns off the TV and just laughs as he turns to his master, Jar Jar Binks and reports that everything is going according to plan, and the credits roll.

hosler 12-26-2015 07:49 PM

Til snape is a Sith and not a wizard

GotenGraal 12-26-2015 09:29 PM

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away ... the director George Lucas screened his very first “Star Wars” movie for John Landis, who went on to direct “Animal House” and “The Blues Brothers.”

When the film was over, Landis turned to Lucas and asked: “George, is everybody in outer space white?”

Pretty much everyone in the original cast was, of course, either white — or an alien. Even Darth Vader — voiced by James Earl Jones — turned out to be, um, white.

In the new “Star Wars,” the star is a character named Finn, played by the British actor John Boyega, who is very much not white.

When the trailer for “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” came out this fall, it was almost immediately followed by the hashtag #BoycottStarWarsVII trending on Twitter.

Why? Because according to some nattering nabobs on the Internet (a redundancy, perhaps?), “Star Wars” characters are supposed to be white.

A black man as apparently the main character in “Star Wars”? A cultural sacrilege! Never mind that these are, um, fictional characters.

Boyega had probably the best response, when he said (via Twitter, of course): “To whom it may concern: Get used to it. :)”

He is right, in more ways than he might realize.

The demography of our pop culture has always had an element of social commentary to it. The original “Star Trek” series was notable for its diverse casting — with an African-American woman (Nichelle Nichols as Uhura) and an Asian-American (George Takei as Sulu), as well as a Russian character (Walter Koenig as Chekov) at a time when the Russians were our enemy.

Later spin-offs gave us a black captain (Avery Brooks as Benjamin Sisko in “Deep Space Nine”) and a female captain (Kate Mulgrew as Captain Janeway in “Voyager.”)

Why “Star Wars” should be immune to such casting choices is unclear.

Boyega is right. We do need to “get used to it.” The world has always been mostly non-white. Now, America is starting to look more like the world.

The United States as a whole is on its way toward becoming a minority-majority country. This summer, the Census Bureau reported that, for the first time ever, a majority of children under age 5 are minorities (50.2 percent, to be precise), which means, of course, they’re not truly minorities at all.

Or rather — since that 50.2 percent includes African-Americans, Hispanics, Asians and other ethnic groups — there will be no majority. Instead, it’s more accurate to say that in the future, everyone in America will be a minority — including whites.

Want to see the future? Look in Prince William County. It’s still a majority-white locality, but in the county’s schools this fall, Hispanics virtually equal non-Hispanic whites.

And that white “Star Wars” universe — which is still mostly white, even with Boyega’s character? A fantasy.

Red 12-27-2015 12:27 AM

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kylo ren is hans son and he kills han and finn isnt a jedi but rey girl is and she goes n finds luke n gets trained

Sir 12-27-2015 12:47 AM

Mark Hamill got paid over $1,000,000 for his role in Star Wars 7... I'm in the wrong line of work

Vulcan Blaze 12-27-2015 12:34 PM

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How could Harrison Ford be in the 8th Film in 2017? Han solo clearly died...
Any legit theories on this? Or do you think they will just use flashbacks?...


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