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Ivy 02-29-2016 08:56 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 679604)
If it's encrypted that means it has to be decrypted, which can take up a lot of cpu if you're constantly decrypting files as they download.

A hidden folder really means nothing.

Just make encripted files cost more

Emera 02-29-2016 08:58 PM

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Posted by Ivy (Post 679608)
Just make encripted files cost more

pls xd

Areo 02-29-2016 09:16 PM

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Posted by Ivy (Post 679608)
Just make encripted files cost more

That doesn't solve any of the issues. Unless they made the price astronomical(real money cost) then you'll still face the slow downs. If it was, say 5$ for an encrypted head, most players would still get one.

It won't change anything.

The only real solution I can see is that your device wouldn't save classics graphics files, so they wouldn't be there to "steal". That also has a slurry of problems. (Having to load everything every single time you play, ext.)

Besides, im not even sure if that's entirely possible and/or something they would even consider.

Admiral 02-29-2016 10:13 PM

being an artist on graal giving me the same vibe as being a vegan, crossfitter, or ironman on rs

Red 02-29-2016 10:13 PM

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Posted by Admiral (Post 679639)
being an artist on graal giving me the same vibe as being a vegan, crossfitter, or ironman on rs

/r/neckbeards

UU 03-01-2016 12:18 AM

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Posted by Admiral (Post 679639)
being an artist on graal giving me the same vibe as being a vegan, crossfitter, or ironman on rs

Just stick to tipping your fedora.
You have nothing important to say so dont speak

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Posted by Areo (Post 679614)
That doesn't solve any of the issues. Unless they made the price astronomical(real money cost) then you'll still face the slow downs. If it was, say 5$ for an encrypted head, most players would still get one.

It won't change anything.

The only real solution I can see is that your device wouldn't save classics graphics files, so they wouldn't be there to "steal". That also has a slurry of problems. (Having to load everything every single time you play, ext.)

Besides, im not even sure if that's entirely possible and/or something they would even consider.

I dont think you understand encryption...
It prevents people from just copying files and having the exact same as the one the game uses.
The idea behind encrypting the files means that people cant just use ifile to get the graphicd files. If they attempt to open it up itll just look like random letters, numbers snd symbols.

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Posted by Dusty (Post 679604)
If it's encrypted that means it has to be decrypted, which can take up a lot of cpu if you're constantly decrypting files as they download.

A hidden folder really means nothing.

It can be the most basic of encryptions. It highly doubt the people stupid enough to claim others work as their own can decrypt anything.

Areo 03-01-2016 12:29 AM

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Posted by UU (Post 679698)
I dont think you understand encryption...
It prevents people from just copying files and having the exact same as the one the game uses.
The idea behind encrypting the files means that people cant just use ifile to get the graphicd files. If they attempt to open it up itll just look like random letters, numbers snd symbols.

I understand what encryption is, I wouldn't post what I did if I didn't. I was stating that they(probably) won't do that, so this is the only real solution.

Also, it doesn't. Considering they length some of the Ifilers are willing to go, they'll just download an encryption cracker. Especially if it's a basic encryption.

Coco 03-01-2016 12:37 AM

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Posted by TWIZ (Post 679583)
If you saw someone with a head/body you made, using it without permission, what would you do about it? It's just a hypothetical situation.

Nothing? It's happened before and the only time I (or usually someone else) do anything about it is when the person is trying to impersonate me to scam others or steal accounts or something. If it was something that happened outside of graal and someone claimed it as their own work, sure I'd be mad but I would have to get over it lol (though a situation like this has never happened to me since I only post my work on PixelJoint where stuff like this doesn't really happen that much).

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Posted by ReD s. (Post 679585)
Life must be depressing if you live with dusty

That's why I said it depends on circumstances :P

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Posted by UU (Post 679598)
They can prevents it.
Encryption or folders that are hidden for file browser apps like ifile

There's no preventing it. No matter what we do (if we bothered) people would find another way around it. You really..really have to just get over it. It sucks but people suck and like I said, nothing you can do. If you put something on the internet (especially if it's not copyrighted by you), you're going to have to expect stuff like this to happen. This doesn't only apply to Graal either.

MrSimons 03-01-2016 12:56 AM

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Posted by Ivy (Post 679437)
It IS stealing. That is my intellectual property and i will not be silencedon the matter



^^^

No, it isn't. If you uploaded the head to Graal, it can be used anywhere, by anyone on Graal. If you didn't know that then it's your fault for not understanding Graal's ToS. I, you, and anyone else can upload whatever head they damn well please that they found on Graal.

You comparing it to theft if childish and ridiculous. Theft implies someone stole actual property from you, someone else using that head doesn't do a damn thing to your ability to use it.

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Posted by UU (Post 679436)
No, its just about common decency.
It has nothing to do with ego.

It's 100% ego. Someone using Ivy's graphics doesn't harm her at all. If she was earning money off of this I would agree with you, because she would be relying on the publicity of her heads to earn her money. But thats not how it be, so it's just a case of "I want people to recognize me for how good I am."

UU 03-01-2016 01:03 AM

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Posted by Coco (Post 679720)
There's no preventing it. No matter what we do (if we bothered) people would find another way around it. You really..really have to just get over it. It sucks but people suck and like I said, nothing you can do. If you put something on the internet (especially if it's not copyrighted by you), you're going to have to expect stuff like this to happen. This doesn't only apply to Graal

You dont have to "copyright" something. It is copyrighted from the minute you make it ubless you specify otherwise.
Sure people can find ways around protected files, but it helps detur them from doing so.

Ivy 03-01-2016 01:04 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 679723)
No, it isn't. If you uploaded the head to Graal, it can be used anywhere, by anyone on Graal. If you didn't know that then it's your fault for not understanding Graal's ToS. I, you, and anyone else can upload whatever head they damn well please that they found on Graal.

You comparing it to theft if childish and ridiculous. Theft implies someone stole actual property from you, someone else using that head doesn't do a damn thing to your ability to use it.



It's 100% ego. Someone using Ivy's graphics doesn't harm her at all. If she was earning money off of this I would agree with you, because she would be relying on the publicity of her heads to earn her money. But thats not how it be, so it's just a case of "I want people to recognize me for how good I am."

Actually, I do earn money off of the heads I make. Checkmate

Yog 03-01-2016 01:05 AM

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Posted by Ivy (Post 679735)
Actually, I do earn money off of the heads I make. Checkmate

Haha what are the Atheists gonna do now?!

UU 03-01-2016 01:06 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 679723)
No, it isn't. If you uploaded the head to Graal, it can be used anywhere, by anyone on Graal. If you didn't know that then it's your fault for not understanding Graal's ToS. I, you, and anyone else can upload whatever head they damn well please that they found on Graal.

You comparing it to theft if childish and ridiculous. Theft implies someone stole actual property from you, someone else using that head doesn't do a damn thing to your ability to use it.



It's 100% ego. Someone using Ivy's graphics doesn't harm her at all. If she was earning money off of this I would agree with you, because she would be relying on the publicity of her heads to earn her money. But thats not how it be, so it's just a case of "I want people to recognize me for how good I am."

Its lile none of you people understand copyright... Im adding you to my ignored list as I really dont want to waste time reading ramblings of nonsense.

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Posted by Yog (Post 679737)
Haha what are the Atheists gonna do now?!

convertttttt

Striken 03-01-2016 01:06 AM

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Posted by Ivy (Post 679735)
Actually, I do earn money off of the heads I make. Checkmate

You'd make more off the corner of the street.

HeftyWood 03-01-2016 01:06 AM

Shut up you crying nabs


HeftyWood out


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