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christian noble 06-24-2016 04:03 AM

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Posted by Crono (Post 716061)
it'll be something like this


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Thallen 06-25-2016 01:31 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 717016)
so glad to know that anyu and sarah aren't being quitters.
might miss sarahs 100k win, but still damn.

You won't miss it, because staff are constantly banning her. She was just banned a week, for no apparent reason, after having just been banned a few days, for no apparent reason.
It's because these weirdos "Johnny Walker" (who constantly harasses her) and that #3 ranked girl, Maria (who VPNs), constantly spam report her. There are others who feed into it. I'd suspect people like Brandon, Boots, etc.

http://puu.sh/pEYKn/747e547f01.png

They constantly PM people and ask people to report her for very vague, generalized reasons. GPs are inexperienced noobs, so they cave in to the reports instead of actually doing their job and monitoring the situation themself. I wouldn't be surprised if these bums have a Kik group where they all organize together to report her.

Sarah isn't even top 50 in wins today, sparred less than 15 times, just logged on and was banned yet again. Meanwhile, there are players who have actually been breaking rules for months, like that serial VPNer Paz and Carly (who has speedhacked openly for nearly a year now).

So, unless you're busy for the next month then you'll probably be around to see her hit 100k. But the state of the arena seems very pathetic right now (in terms of attitude and skill level), and GPs aren't helping out at all.

Buffalo 06-25-2016 01:33 AM

i should boosted like her would have had 1m.. i be slackin

Areo 06-25-2016 02:10 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 717381)
You won't miss it, because staff are constantly banning her. She was just banned a week, for no apparent reason, after having just been banned a few days, for no apparent reason.
It's because these weirdos "Johnny Walker" (who constantly harasses her) and that #3 ranked girl, Maria (who VPNs), constantly spam report her. There are others who feed into it. I'd suspect people like Brandon, Boots, etc.

http://puu.sh/pEYKn/747e547f01.png

They constantly PM people and ask people to report her for very vague, generalized reasons. GPs are inexperienced noobs, so they cave in to the reports instead of actually doing their job and monitoring the situation themself. I wouldn't be surprised if these bums have a Kik group where they all organize together to report her.

Sarah isn't even top 50 in wins today, sparred less than 15 times, just logged on and was banned yet again. Meanwhile, there are players who have actually been breaking rules for months, like that serial VPNer Paz and Carly (who has speedhacked openly for nearly a year now).

So, unless you're busy for the next month then you'll probably be around to see her hit 100k. But the state of the arena seems very pathetic right now (in terms of attitude and skill level), and GPs aren't helping out at all.

What were the reasons she was banned for? Game disruption?

Thallen 06-25-2016 02:14 AM

It's always game disruption and I'm sure the reports are along the lines of "HACKER LAGGING IN SPAR USING A VPN TO BEAT US"

The issue is that if she ever is lagging excessively then it takes one PM from a GP saying, "Hey, you'll have to stop queuing now until your lag chills out," but that never happens

Being a popular player in a system where all GPs do is depend on the reports of players isn't fun, and it'd be great to see them actually banning the people who are consistently breaking the rules because it's done its damage to the arena community already

The fact that I can report someone every other day for months, with recorded evidence and proof of their cheating, but a bunch of angry negative sparrers can collude together and spam report Sarah because they don't enjoy sparring her and get her banned by doing it... That sucks

In other news, Anyu is up to 965k

MikvaGraal 06-25-2016 02:43 AM

Don't worry sara u cn spar on my account Xd!!1!!

CM 06-25-2016 02:50 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 717396)
It's always game disruption and I'm sure the reports are along the lines of "HACKER LAGGING IN SPAR USING A VPN TO BEAT US"

The issue is that if she ever is lagging excessively then it takes one PM from a GP saying, "Hey, you'll have to stop queuing now until your lag chills out," but that never happens

Being a popular player in a system where all GPs do is depend on the reports of players isn't fun, and it'd be great to see them actually banning the people who are consistently breaking the rules because it's done its damage to the arena community already

The fact that I can report someone every other day for months, with recorded evidence and proof of their cheating, but a bunch of angry negative sparrers can collude together and spam report Sarah because they don't enjoy sparring her and get her banned by doing it... That sucks

In other news, Anyu is up to 965k

js when I was a GP it took more than just a few angry reports for someone to get banned, but who knows maybe the current GPs don't know what they're doing

Thallen 06-25-2016 02:53 AM

I just think there's a terrible inconsistency with how the rules are applied to players who are popular vs. players who are random noobs that actually break the rules, and it all stems from it being a majorly report-driven system... Oh well

CM 06-25-2016 03:00 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 717416)
I just think there's a terrible inconsistency with how the rules are applied to players who are popular vs. players who are random noobs that actually break the rules, and it all stems from it being a majorly report-driven system... Oh well

I don't think "popularity" has anything to do with it, I'm pretty sure 80% of the staff doesn't even know who Sarah is.

Yog 06-25-2016 03:02 AM

Yeah... the report system has nothing to do with popularity. Not to mention that if the ban is appealed it would be checked by someone experienced.

Thallen 06-25-2016 03:04 AM

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Posted by CM (Post 717419)
I don't think "popularity" has anything to do with it, I'm pretty sure 80% of the staff doesn't even know who Sarah is.

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Posted by Yog (Post 717420)
Yeah... the report system has nothing to do with popularity. Not to mention that if the ban is appealed it would be checked by someone experienced.

Don't think you understand what I'm saying, it's not as if I'm suggesting that staff go out on a quest to ban popular players... It's that the more popular players will be subject to more reports, fair or unfair

It's the fact that if one of you had a bad word in your status, and I also had a bad word in my status, I'd be banned first and you'd be banned probably a week later, if at all, simply because people creep on me a hell of a lot more because I'm mOrE PoPuLaR oN GrAaL

So yes, this is what I mean - the more people who know you, the more open you are to reports and the easier it is to exploit the report system against these people

Yog 06-25-2016 03:07 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 717421)
Don't think you understand what I'm saying, it's not as if I'm suggesting that staff go out on a quest to ban popular players

It's the fact that if one of you had bad words in your status, and I also had a bad word in my status, I'd be banned first and you'd be banned probably a week later, if at all, simply because people stalk up on me a hell of a lot more because I'm mOrE PoPuLaR oN GrAaL

So yes, this is what I mean - the more popular you are among players in the game, the more open you are to reports and the easier it is to exploit the report system against these people

An easy solution to this is don't break the rules.

CM 06-25-2016 03:09 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 717421)
Don't think you understand what I'm saying, it's not as if I'm suggesting that staff go out on a quest to ban popular players

It's the fact that if one of you had bad words in your status, and I also had a bad word in my status, I'd be banned first and you'd be banned probably a week later, if at all, simply because people stalk up on me a hell of a lot more because I'm mOrE PoPuLaR oN GrAaL

So yes, this is what I mean - the more known you are on the game, the more open you are to reports and the easier it is to get people to exploit the report system against these people

Don't see how this can be fixed. The report system, as it is, works fine IMO. If someone gets reported for having bad words while another person isn't, well then yes the person who gets reported will probably be banned first.

It doesn't matter though, just don't break the rules and you won't be banned. Like I said Sarah was most likely banned for no reason. If she is doing something that is getting her banned then she should probably stop doing it.

Thallen 06-25-2016 03:12 AM

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Posted by CM (Post 717425)
Don't see how this can be fixed. The report system, as it is, works fine IMO. If someone gets reported for having bad words while another person isn't, well then yes the person who gets reported will probably be banned first.

I would like for you to explain to me why it is that the players like I mentioned before, Carly and Paz, have not been banned despite constant videos, screenshots, and other actual evidence of their cheating.

It's because no one cares about them and because a very small amount of people report it, which again supports what I'm saying about this being a player popularity thing. It's very stupid.

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Posted by CM (Post 717425)
It doesn't matter though, just don't break the rules and you won't be banned. Like I said Sarah was most likely banned for no reason. If she is doing something that is getting her banned then she should probably stop doing it.

She literally doesn't even know what she's banned for. How does one stop doing something when they don't know what they're doing? Stop sparring? Why can't a GP send her a message and inform her of what it is she's apparently doing?

Reemas 06-25-2016 03:13 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 717396)
It's always game disruption and I'm sure the reports are along the lines of "HACKER LAGGING IN SPAR USING A VPN TO BEAT US"

The issue is that if she ever is lagging excessively then it takes one PM from a GP saying, "Hey, you'll have to stop queuing now until your lag chills out," but that never happens

Being a popular player in a system where all GPs do is depend on the reports of players isn't fun, and it'd be great to see them actually banning the people who are consistently breaking the rules because it's done its damage to the arena community already

The fact that I can report someone every other day for months, with recorded evidence and proof of their cheating, but a bunch of angry negative sparrers can collude together and spam report Sarah because they don't enjoy sparring her and get her banned by doing it... That sucks

In other news, Anyu is up to 965k


Staff should just hire a player that specifically monitors sparring. A player that is well experienced with the sparring. Not sure you ever mention this. Quite sure you must have. Honestly, someone like you needs to be staff. Also, not sure if you ever were or are. This should solve some issues.


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