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Zetectic 01-25-2016 02:10 PM

i watched few presidential candidate debates, looks like Bernie Sanders is owning this if the people on the internet get off and vote.

Ghettoicedtea 01-25-2016 02:28 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 664758)
i watched few presidential candidate debates, looks like Bernie Sanders is owning this if the people on the internet get off and vote.

like half of bernies supporters are to young to vote though. Thats the problem bernie faces is inflated numbers from people under 18.

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Posted by PumaD (Post 664757)
Everyone who supports Trump is rather desperate. Absolutely pathetic.

/thread

Why because we are tired of not having good jobs here because the economy bad and corporations with the good jobs leave and we want them to come back, or we are tired of being ripped off by other countries in trade? Because we are tired of illegal immagrants devauling labor costs and leeching off welfare?

PumaD 01-25-2016 03:31 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 664764)
like half of bernies supporters are to young to vote though. Thats the problem bernie faces is inflated numbers from people under 18.



Why because we are tired of not having good jobs here because the economy bad and corporations with the good jobs leave and we want them to come back, or we are tired of being ripped off by other countries in trade? Because we are tired of illegal immagrants devauling labor costs and leeching off welfare?

No, because you took the bait.

GOAT 01-25-2016 06:59 PM

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Posted by PumaD (Post 664772)
No, because you took the bait.

lol RIP GIT


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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 664764)
Why because we are tired of not having good jobs here because the economy bad and corporations with the good jobs leave and we want them to come back, or we are tired of being ripped off by other countries in trade? Because we are tired of illegal immagrants devauling labor costs and leeching off welfare?

Illegal immAgrants can't get welfare.


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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 664764)
Why because we are tired of not having good jobs here because the economy bad and corporations with the good jobs leave and we want them to come back, or we are tired of being ripped off by other countries in trade? Because we are tired of illegal immagrants devauling labor costs and leeching off welfare

Apparently they are not devaluing the labor cost enough because ACCORDING to GIT the "corporations with the good jobs leave"

News flash, they don't leave the US, what they do is move their manufacturing plants to other countries where labor is cheaper. You see, citizens of other countries devalue the labor cost in your country not "illegal immigrants" AND to kill a white man while he's down, corporations take your jobs away and then they sell you the product you should have been assembling at an exaggerated price. You see GIT, corporations are the one bending the white man over NOT illegal immAgrants they screw you twice.

Minimum wage keeps going up where I'm from, so I don't know what you mean.

Watch this video from 17:20-18:30. Talks about the support Trump gets. Good stuff.

If you want to learn something watch 15:45-19:40



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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 664756)
KEK LMAO OH MAN THIS **** AGAIN. Already been through it on pol. You guys are literally so desperate to get rid of him you are attacking everything about trump. It's absolutely pathetic and shows how bad the establishment wants an establishment politic in. Also where are they getting these numbers? It looks like to me more liberal propaganda

nah man they werent attacking trump they were insulting his supporters. Do you not realize the difference? Now go back to the link about trump supporters being idiots and reflect on how you just made their point. :D

DJ Meow 01-25-2016 07:27 PM

I support Donald because he's the most popular candidate and he's on a lot of vines.

Ghettoicedtea 01-26-2016 04:40 AM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 664847)
lol RIP GIT



Illegal immAgrants can't get welfare.



Apparently they are not devaluing the labor cost enough because ACCORDING to GIT the "corporations with the good jobs leave"

News flash, they don't leave the US, what they do is move their manufacturing plants to other countries where labor is cheaper. You see, citizens of other countries devalue the labor cost in your country not "illegal immigrants" AND to kill a white man while he's down, corporations take your jobs away and then they sell you the product you should have been assembling at an exaggerated price. You see GIT, corporations are the one bending the white man over NOT illegal immAgrants they screw you twice. : D

News flash by moving there factories ans manufacturing plants over to other countries. Thats jobs being moved to other countries and things being built in other countries. So there goes your higher minimum wage paycheck, healthcare plan, and retirement plan. Thats why they need to come back to america, thats tons of good jobs, the reason why corporations sell at an over price is because they can make a huge profit from the combo of cheap labor and cheaper supplies due to devalued currency. Also they dont get taxed overseas by our stupid high corporate tax rates. So thats more of a reason for them to leave. Make it cheaper to produce in america and give companies a reason to manufacture here. Otherwise, were doomed. Globalization is a load of horse **** and soon SOON the only type of industry we will have is ****ty food factories that are no where near the quality of manufacturing jobs, and the only good manufacturing job you can get would be with the military.
Illegal immigrants are citizens of another country so buzz off. They devalue labor, especially in the small buisnesses area because they will work for less than minimum wage or work minimum wage and have no benifits of a US citizen because they arent one. Also some illegal immigrants get welfare by you guessed it. Anchor babies. Having a kid on US soil makes them a citizen meaning they are eligible for funds from the government, or welfare. They need to get out and come back legally.

go back to reddit and circle jerk to sanders there or make your own thread.

GOAT 01-26-2016 07:11 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 665030)
GIT's rant

Woah come down Mr. my ancestors came here legally. You sound agitated GIT I thought this was a troll thread :\



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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 665030)
News flash by moving there factories ans manufacturing plants over to other countries. Thats jobs being moved to other countries and things being built in other countries. So there goes your higher minimum wage paycheck, healthcare plan, and retirement plan. Thats why they need to come back to america, thats tons of good jobs,

As long as fat Americans keep eating as if there is no tomorrow I will always have my McDonald's minimum wage job.


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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 665030)
the reason why corporations sell at an over price is because they can make a huge profit from the combo of cheap labor and cheaper supplies due to devalued currency.

No sh1t? You mean to tell me cheaper labor(less cost) will increase revenue? Mind blown. But I don't know what devalued currency has to do with anything. If you explain what you mean I will be happy to correct you.



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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 665030)
Also they dont get taxed overseas by our stupid high corporate tax rates. So thats more of a reason for them to leave. Make it cheaper to produce in america and give companies a reason to manufacture here.

You can't get any cheaper than China and India even with a lowered tax rate. Maybe they can convince white people to work for peanuts after they get rid of the Mexicans. :D


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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 665030)
Illegal immigrants are citizens of another country so buzz off.

lol so Chinese citizens living and working in China are illegal immigrants? lolwot



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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 665030)
Also some illegal immigrants get welfare by you guessed it. Anchor babies. Having a kid on US soil makes them a citizen meaning they are eligible for funds from the government, or welfare. They need to get out and come back legally.

Anchor babies? Do you even know what that's intended to mean? Having a child in America does not make you (the parent) a US citizen. The child is a citizen, but the parent is not. The child can get welfare (being that he's a US citizen), but not the illegal immigrant that is his parents.


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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 665030)
go back to reddit and circle jerk to sanders there or make your own thread.

Naw brah #Clinton4POTUS #BillClinton4FGOTUS



Do you know there's millions of illegal immigrants working under fake social securities which allows the Government to tax them and they also contribute to the white mans security benefits knowing they will never get social security benefits?

And they're called undocumented immigrants you anime masterbating dork lol :D:love: i still love you GIT

Crono 01-26-2016 07:45 PM

i dunno if ghetto is trolling or serious anymore

Zetectic 01-27-2016 08:08 PM

holy crap... so the golf club that i saw next to a bridge was donald trump's property....
wuw

deadowl 01-28-2016 05:49 AM

I would question the sanity of anyone voting for Trump.

Fulgore 01-28-2016 07:03 PM

Not voting for him in Primary, but if he wins it, which is looking likely, then he's still my pick over Hillary or Bernie any day of the week.

Thallen 01-29-2016 12:33 AM

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Posted by deadowl (Post 665590)
I would question the sanity of anyone voting for Trump.

Nah, I'd only question their sanity if they were die-hard, full-****** Trump supporters. Then again, I'd do that for any candidate. I think he's a pretty intelligent guy from a business and leadership perspective, but I can definitely admit that he says some stupid **** sometimes. I often think it's just for the spotlight and attention.

I think the attraction to Trump is that he is very adamant and hard on his stances, and every stance of his that I've paid attention to has to do with serving the best, narrow interest of the US. Trump has Putin-esque charisma and he's going to take advantage of it.

Ghettoicedtea 01-31-2016 01:59 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 665840)
I can definitely admit that he says some stupid **** sometimes. I often think it's just for the spotlight and attention.

It is. he is literally doing what he says he does in the art of the deal. It works.
http://imgur.com/c8mweS1.png

Asaiki 01-31-2016 02:05 AM

I don't see what's wrong with Donald Trump.

MattKan 01-31-2016 02:40 AM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 665703)
Not voting for him in Primary, but if he wins it, which is looking likely, then he's still my pick over Hillary or Bernie any day of the week.

Yikes tbh

Fulgore 01-31-2016 08:52 AM

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Posted by MattKan (Post 666622)
Yikes tbh

I prefer to keep the money I'll be making instead of giving it to someone who didn't work as hard.

Crono 01-31-2016 05:13 PM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 666697)
I prefer to keep the money I'll be making instead of giving it to someone who didn't work as hard.

lel hf with that attitude. as if your schools, infrastructure, etc magically pay for themselves

deadowl 01-31-2016 06:15 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 665840)
Nah, I'd only question their sanity if they were die-hard, full-****** Trump supporters. Then again, I'd do that for any candidate. I think he's a pretty intelligent guy from a business and leadership perspective, but I can definitely admit that he says some stupid **** sometimes. I often think it's just for the spotlight and attention.

I think the attraction to Trump is that he is very adamant and hard on his stances, and every stance of his that I've paid attention to has to do with serving the best, narrow interest of the US. Trump has Putin-esque charisma and he's going to take advantage of it.

Yea, let's build a wall across the southern border and make Mexico pay for it. Nothing bad will come of it.

Colin 01-31-2016 06:36 PM



this guy can't make his mind up, I would rather a man who sticks to his opinions rather than constantly change them for attention

if being someone you're not is the only way you can grab peoples attention and get them interested in you, you probably aren't a good candidate

Fulgore 01-31-2016 07:10 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 666778)
lel hf with that attitude. as if your schools, infrastructure, etc magically pay for themselves

As long as I pay for my own or that of my children then I'm fine. The fact I have to pay for it won't change with 1 candidate either way. I just despise the idea that I may lose part of my paycheck that could go to my kid's college, for example, and have it go to some lazy idiot who only got in somewhere through affirmative action and will not make anything of what they're given.

GOAT 01-31-2016 07:18 PM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 666697)
I prefer to keep the money I'll be making instead of giving it to someone who didn't work as hard.

lol calm down Mr. 1%


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Posted by Fulgore (Post 666849)
As long as I pay for my own or that of my children then I'm fine. The fact I have to pay for it won't change with 1 candidate either way. I just despise the idea that I may lose part of my paycheck that could go to my kid's college, for example, and have it go to some lazy idiot who only got in somewhere through affirmative action and will not make anything of what they're given.

Fulgore pls. You have to get a girl first :D and lolwot



The reason people don't give Bernie a chance is because he wants to go after the individuals that buy policies and his stuff is too progressive. People don't like change but free college education and affordable health insurance sounds pretty good to me and the best part is that those filthy rich aholes(:wink: looks @ fulgy) would pay for it :D:P.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/how...his-proposals/

Crono 01-31-2016 08:28 PM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 666849)
I just despise the idea that I may lose part of my paycheck that could go to my kid's college

You mean the thing that he wants to make free????????

Gary 01-31-2016 09:22 PM

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Posted by Coco (Post 645530)
Trying to convince Dusty to make us a "Just in case donald trump is elected" money jar so we can move to Canada in the worse-case scenario :(

How much you and dusty got saved up so far

Fulgore 01-31-2016 11:07 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 666887)
You mean the thing that he wants to make free????????

Nothing is really free. By free, he means out of the higher tax rate I'd have based on my expected income. I understand why certain people want to vote for him. But because where I stand won't be the same, I'm voting for what is better for me. Selfish and greedy maybe, but oh well.

Admiral 02-01-2016 12:09 AM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 666962)
Nothing is really free. By free, he means out of the higher tax rate I'd have based on my expected income. I understand why certain people want to vote for him. But because where I stand won't be the same, I'm voting for what is better for me. Selfish and greedy maybe, but oh well.

Nah, thats completely fair and reasonable.

MattKan 02-01-2016 04:38 AM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 666697)
I prefer to keep the money I'll be making instead of giving it to someone who didn't work as hard.

The assumption that everyone who needs governmental assistance "didn't work as hard" is really problematic since it excludes a lot of people based on upbringing, situation at birth, identity, and even chance. Just because you happened to win at Russian Roulette doesn't mean it's a fair game to play.

Fulgore 02-01-2016 04:59 AM

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Posted by MattKan (Post 667105)
The assumption that everyone who needs governmental assistance "didn't work as hard" is really problematic since it excludes a lot of people based on upbringing, situation at birth, identity, and even chance. Just because you happened to win at Russian Roulette doesn't mean it's a fair game to play.

It's super unfortunate for them I agree, and I know that statement isn't universal. However, socialist ideas for economy make me gag in general.

Areo 02-01-2016 05:33 AM

Well, I tend to disagree with socialism, but I really think that we need Paid Maternal Leave in the United States. Honestly ridiculous that it hasn't happened yet.

Unbelievable how many families have to take on debt just so they can take care of their kid for the first year of their life.

GOAT 02-01-2016 08:52 PM

What is socialism?


Fulgy, what are some of these sociaistic ideas for the economy that make you gag? And Why? (Besides people not working hard enough)



Don't you hate it when troll threads end up with descent discussions?:\

Thom 02-01-2016 10:28 PM

Socialism just doesn't work you ****ing morons!

Bernie is not just a socialist, he's a textbook communist which will bring the USA in ever greater economic and social dispair.

"If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain" - Winston Churchill

What you little kiddies have yet to learn is, the media is filled with left wing propaganda left and right, they tell you what to think. Once you start growing older you'll see it's wise to think for yourself critically. Glad you naive kids can't even vote yet.

If you think Trump is racist or you don't agree with me, **** you! TRUMP 2016

PumaD 02-01-2016 10:47 PM

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Posted by Thom (Post 667346)
Socialism just doesn't work you ****ing morons!

Bernie is not just a socialist, he's a textbook communist which will bring the USA in ever greater economic and social dispair.

"If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain" - Winston Churchill

What you little kiddies have yet to learn is, the media is filled with left wing propaganda left and right, they tell you what to think. Once you start growing older you'll see it's wise to think for yourself critically. Glad you naive kids can't even vote yet.

If you think Trump is racist or you don't agree with me, **** you! TRUMP 2016

Yea, keep going on calling others 'kids' and 'naive' while you cuss out other people because they support someone else. Good one, your ridicolous posts always make me smile a bit until I realize what kind of dumb people exist.

5hift 02-01-2016 10:50 PM

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Posted by Thom (Post 667346)
Socialism just doesn't work you ****ing morons!

Bernie is not just a socialist, he's a textbook communist which will bring the USA in ever greater economic and social dispair.

"If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain" - Winston Churchill

What you little kiddies have yet to learn is, the media is filled with left wing propaganda left and right, they tell you what to think. Once you start growing older you'll see it's wise to think for yourself critically. Glad you naive kids can't even vote yet.

If you think Trump is racist or you don't agree with me, **** you! TRUMP 2016

You've reached the cringy preachyness level of Conquest.

Congrats.

Thom 02-01-2016 10:58 PM

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Posted by PumaD (Post 667355)
Yea, keep going on calling others 'kids' and 'naive' while you cuss out other people because they support someone else. Good one, your ridicolous posts always make me smile a bit until I realize what kind of dumb people exist.

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Posted by 5hift (Post 667357)
You've reached the cringy preachyness level of Conquest.

Congrats.

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...75/979/34b.jpg

I'm using the preachiness for dramatic effect because that's the only language liberals understand (no point in talking sense into these oblivious hippies)

5hift 02-01-2016 11:04 PM

When the voters of a meme use memes to communicate.

Fulgore 02-01-2016 11:49 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 667313)
What is socialism?


Fulgy, what are some of these sociaistic ideas for the economy that make you gag? And Why? (Besides people not working hard enough)



Don't you hate it when troll threads end up with descent discussions?:\

The idea of taking the money of a richer person (who has a more difficult job/often times worked harder to get there/are smarter) through high tax rate, and either directly (through welfare) or indirectly (through government healthcare or education) gives it to others. Now some of this in moderation is a good thing, don't get me wrong. One could go too far and say that public education K-12 is stupid and they don't want to pay for it but that's off the deep end. I also realize it sometimes isn't all about laziness, and people get stuck in bad scenarios, but there are examples all around of people who have come out of a bad scenario with hard work, not government handouts that teach people that you can get money for nothing.

Side note: GOAT Trolls are pretty funny sometimes though I do admit.

Thom 02-02-2016 01:05 PM

So you guys want THIS pushover **** to run the country?



hahahhahhaaha

Thallen 02-02-2016 02:15 PM

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Posted by Thom (Post 667564)
So you guys want THIS pushover **** to run the country?


Was pretty disgusting to watch, that entire "movement" is a joke to me but that's another subject

Vulcan Blaze 02-02-2016 03:12 PM

RIP Trump, its over tbh.
I think people only voted for him just to take the **** .
I mean, I would vote for him if I was American.

Crono 02-02-2016 04:16 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 667577)
Was pretty disgusting to watch, that entire "movement" is a joke to me but that's another subject

ironically the lives of the folks who took part in it, and blocked off roads/highways, don't matter.

Thom 02-04-2016 02:32 PM

please clap


5hift 02-04-2016 06:33 PM

Lol, somebody get the sad violin for Jeb.

Ghettoicedtea 02-04-2016 09:13 PM

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Posted by MattKan (Post 667105)
The assumption that everyone who needs governmental assistance "didn't work as hard" is really problematic since it excludes a lot of people based on upbringing, situation at birth, identity, and even chance. Just because you happened to win at Russian Roulette doesn't mean it's a fair game to play.

holy **** please kill yourself. Please. That stuff is a lie 95% of the time. That stuff is there choice. It's there fault they did poor in school, it's there fault they got into drugs or gangs etc, it's there fault that they went into a crappy job, guess what folks? Every decision in life that you make has a choice, no body is forcing you to do anything in this country. Everyone now is given a vary fair chance at schooling. I know so many kids who went to these ass tier charter middle schools. They wanted to get in a better school because they wanted to do well in life, so they sent there middle school transcripts into highschools, when highschools see that there are damn good grades, it isn't hard to get a huge scholarship. It helps even more if you are black, asain, latino etc and have solid grades in a bad school and you apply to a majority white school. The odds of them NOT accepting you are so low because if they have diversity, it makes there school look a lot better on paper, thus a higher chance at government help funding. Theres also a bunch of very cheap and good colleges out there that can get you far. Especially if you get a good degree, if you are smart you can go to a trade school or a 2 year college for about 10-20k a year. If you have good grades and constantly challenge yourself, you can get a ton of scholorships, that being said if your family or if you live alone can't afford the remaining cost you can take a student loan. Your student debts would probably be around 10k by the end of it all and that is insanely low debt. If you have a 2 year degree you can get a good job at a company that nets 20-50k a year easily. It's not hard folks, you just gotta have motivation to do well and show it. The only time that this is actually legit because of there upbringing is if they are born with some crippling disability. Not muh ADD or muh ADHD, thats a bunch of petty bull****. I mean legit ones like deaf, blind, missing limbs, etc. Even then they can do very well in life if they get the proper aid. Trumps tax plan favors those who WANT to do well, Sanders tax plan favors those who DONT want to do well.
As for infastructure, Trump can make waaaaaaaaaay more money over Bernie because Trump is going to put a 35% import tax on anything that comes into the US from a US company. A lot of stuff now comes from places outside the US from US companies. Most of that stuff is not cheap items, like your cars. a 35% import tax on a thing that is expensive as hell to ship is going to make a lot of money + renegotiate all bad deals with other countries to stop trade defacites that will save a bunch of money. Sanders is just gonna rob the rich, that sucks for the people who got rich through hard work and not through cheap ways like family, bankers, wall street etc.

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Posted by Thom (Post 667564)
So you guys want THIS pushover **** to run the country?



hahahhahhaaha

spotted the /pol/ user. Sanders is though a **** when it comes to social justice issues. That don't work though cause DUDE WEED LMAO is crashing the **** outta canadas economy because he is a **** when it comes to social justice.

Areo 02-04-2016 09:50 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 668375)
As for infastructure, Trump can make waaaaaaaaaay more money over Bernie because Trump is going to put a 35% import tax on anything that comes into the US from a US company. A lot of stuff now comes from places outside the US from US companies. Most of that stuff is not cheap items, like your cars. a 35% import tax on a thing that is expensive as hell to ship is going to make a lot of money + renegotiate all bad deals with other countries to stop trade defacites that will save a bunch of money. Sanders is just gonna rob the rich, that sucks for the people who got rich through hard work and not through cheap ways like family, bankers, wall street etc.

Okay, a 35% import tax is actually not a good idea. If that came to fruition those companies would leave the United States entirely. Trying to add jobs in factories by trying to force these companies to move their factories back is a waste, because that's not what the United States is good at from a opportunity cost stand point. Why should we build, say, processors if we can get them cheaper from a different county? To add low income jobs and restrict the growth of business, which, if they did grow, would add high income jobs for innovators?

Acting like it's a crime that companies ship work overseas is really not all that smart. If Chinese workers are willing to work for cheaper than ours, let them. Our companies will be able to either A. Sell at lower prices on the home front. Or B. Create more jobs because they are an efficient company. Perhaps both.

Like for example, the IPhone. If you order one online it's shipped from Shenzen, china. Chances are the only American that touches it will be the delivery man.
Yet that is actually a good thing. It's a good thing that American workers don't have to do that kind of work anymore. Physically assembling the iPhone is the easy part. What gives the iPhone it's value is it's unique design and it's sleek and industrial feel. The people making the real money from the iPhone are the innovators who work in Silicon Valley who make the iPhone what it is.

So, trade deficits are not a bad thing at all.


HOWEVER, that doesn't mean I am for Bernie.

Distorted_P2P 02-04-2016 10:08 PM

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Posted by Thom (Post 667564)
So you guys want THIS pushover **** to run the country?



hahahhahhaaha

I would've punched those bitches straight in the face, then continuously kicked them in the throat.

Pr0m4N V.14 02-05-2016 05:27 AM

That burn guy is pretty popular

GOAT 02-05-2016 09:14 PM

So much cringing on this last page(hi GIT) too bad I'm on my phone. To be continued...

Pr0m4N V.14 02-08-2016 12:15 AM

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Posted by Pr0m4N V.14 (Post 668589)
That berney sanders guy is pretty popular

Why do I keep quoting myself on accident?

Zetectic 02-21-2016 03:25 AM

http://www.usatoday.com/pages/intera...-tracker-2016/
tf? hillary is owning bernie.. but why is she hated so much on the internet?
trump is also owning cruz and rubio. man this is exciting

5hift 02-21-2016 04:10 AM

Don't forget to boycott Apple products.

10/10 original idea.

metal 02-21-2016 04:51 AM

Buy gold.


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