Posted by MrSimons (Post 787791)

I'd say that in North America and Australia it is already a modern religion. Its pretty clear that at this point there is a large divide in Islamic values between parts of the globe.

Posted by Ximithie (Post 788087)

All the countries in Europe should divide like the UK wants too they would be much better off tbh like Germany and France so many attacks its mostly cause of the refugee crisis I'm not saying all of the incoming refugees are bad but some are every country should decide for them self not for Europe like they are currently doing.

Posted by PigParty (Post 788104)

European countries have no obligation to the EU like U.S. citizens have to America.

Posted by PumaD (Post 788133)

Yes, they do too lol. On a side note, UK had a lot of other reasons to leave.

Posted by PigParty (Post 788145)

how so? They don't have the same pride, ties, or nationalism to the EU like U.S. citizens do to America. We pledge allegiance to the United States. They pledge allegiance to their country; not the EU.

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Posted by Weeno (Post 788246)

I get banned, come back and see that this thread is alive

Posted by Colin (Post 786162)

Criticizing a religion doesn't make you racist bimbo

You should learn to read buddy, let me give you a few examples:



“They ask you about fighting during the sacred months. Tell them, fighting therein is a great sin but a greater sin is to prevent mankind from following the way of Allah, to disbelieve in him.” 2:217



“Kill them wherever you find them and drive them out from where they drove you out. Persecution is worse than slaughter.” 2:191



“When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks.” 47:4



“When your Lord revealed to the angels, ‘Truly I am with you. So, keep firm those who have believed. I will strike terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved. So, strike them at the necks and cut off their fingers.’” 8:12



“Men are the protectors and maintainers of women because Allah has made one superior to the other and because they spend to support them from their means. Therefore, righteous women are obedient and they guard in the husband’s absence what Allah orders them to guard. And, as to those women from whom you fear disobedience, give them a warning, send them to separate beds, and beat them.” 4:34



“Oh you who believe, fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you and let them find harshness in you.” 9:123



“Muhammad is the apostle of Allah. Those who follow Him are merciful to one another but harsh to the disbeliever.” 48:29



“They wish that you would reject faith as they have rejected faith unless that you would all be equal. So, don’t take protectors from them unless they emigrate in the way of Allah but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them.” 4:89



"Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority" 3:151



"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement" 5:33

Should I keep going? These are just a few of the violent versus, haven't even gotten to the aggressive stuff regarding women/homosexuals and others aside from the quote in there about beating women who don't obey you.

Posted by Red (Post 787367)

Wick, you're the same person who called me racist when I criticised some of islams core beliefs and still seem to have that ideology that "anyone who says bad things about my religion is racist"


Islam isn't a race first of all, Second of all I encourage Colin and anyone else to avoid arguing with both wick and saeed because both of these ignorant morons will get upset and continue to reply saying "you're wrong" without any context.

It's the same as jimbo vs sarah/dark if they're wrong in the fact department they will just say "you're wrong" without context.



TO BE VERY CLEAR, Nobody here is an "islamaphobe" you're just sensitive and ignorant and refuse to bring any factual or true information to an argument.


Kosiris himself lives in Saudi Arabia and hes not tossing out the race card or criticizing others, hes contributing to the conversation which is what saeed refuses to do.


Pigparty is also somebody I wouldn't waste time on, besides the whole ignorant banter he spits out he also refuses to value your opinion and hits the quote button without actually reading what you've said and understanding it. It's the same as saeed. They fail to read or even bother trying to interpret what anyone here is trying to say and just want to start drama.




You basically summed up everything anyone could reply to you with:


The problem with islam is that todays "sjw" group just refuses to read up on what they're actually "defending"

As I said 3 times over, you are replying randomly without actually trying to read or understand what colin is saying, you just have that ****ty mentality you display on iclassic and on the iclassic subforum where if you don't like what someone is saying you'll quickly whip something up and post it without thinking.



"I don't fast" - saeed

Basically lying about being muslim, or he just isn't informed into what his religion states he must do.

Posted by MBK (Post 788293)

I'll give you your context ya donkey. come at me

Posted by G Fatal (Post 788451)

You guys should make a thread based on topic of terrorism/Isis/religions..

Posted by G Fatal (Post 788451)

You guys should make a thread based on topic of terrorism/Isis/religions..

Posted by Pokki (Post 788591)

yay another completely pointless thread to start arguments

Posted by 5hift (Post 788608)

No controversial topics allowed.

Posted by Kosiris (Post 788424)

Alright what's the context to this:
الرِّجَالُ قَوَّامُونَ عَلَى النِّسَاءِ بِمَا فَضَّلَ اللَّهُ بَعْضَهُمْ عَلَىٰ بَعْضٍ وَبِمَا أَنفَقُوا مِنْ أَمْوَالِهِمْ ۚ فَالصَّالِحَاتُ قَانِتَاتٌ حَافِظَاتٌ لِّلْغَيْبِ بِمَا حَفِظَ اللَّهُ ۚ وَاللَّاتِي تَخَافُونَ نُشُوزَهُنَّ فَعِظُوهُنَّ وَاهْجُرُوهُنَّ فِي الْمَضَاجِعِ وَاضْرِبُوهُنَّ ۖ فَإِنْ أَطَعْنَكُمْ فَلَا تَبْغُوا عَلَيْهِنَّ سَبِيلًا ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيًّا كَبِيرًا (34)

Tafsir:
يقول تعالى : ( الرجال قوامون على النساء ) أي : الرجل قيم على المرأة ، أي هو رئيسها وكبيرها والحاكم عليها ومؤدبها إذا اعوجت ( بما فضل الله بعضهم على بعض ) أي : لأن الرجال أفضل من النساء ، والرجل خير من المرأة; ولهذا كانت النبوة مختصة بالرجال وكذلك الملك الأعظم; لقوله صلى الله عليه وسلم : " لن يفلح قوم ولوا أمرهم امرأة " رواه البخاري من حديث عبد الرحمن بن أبي بكرة ، عن أبيه وكذا منصب القضاء وغير ذلك .

Posted by MrSimons (Post 788256)

Well to be fair Italy and Greece wouldn't be much better off without the EU.