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NCJohn 11-03-2012 10:39 AM

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Posted by Xavier (Post 226260)
This thread isn't going anywhere, (because that's how politics work) so I'm going to whip out the silliness. (Don't take this video seriously.)


This thread isn't going anywhere because you are not addressing my question I asked or any other points brought up. You instead have to result to relying on nonsense forms of media and avoiding questions.

Sir 11-03-2012 10:44 AM

I'd rather be an elephant than an ass :P

Pazx 11-03-2012 11:21 AM

Your wonderful Mitt Romney:

laid off thousands of workers as head of the investment company Bain Capital.
set up shell companies in the Cayman Islands and Bermuda to avoid U.S. taxes.
calls Obama’s payroll tax cut that would save middle class/lower income families $1,500 a year “temporary little band aids.”
plan for a “middle class tax cut” would provide zero benefits to 73.9 percent of the middle class.
called for taxes on the poor, saying low-income Americans having no income tax liability is “a problem” that will “kill the country.”
would repeal the Dodd-Frank bill, which regulates the risky practices that led to the 2008 crisis.
said he wants to “get the federal government out of education
As governor, vetoed a minimum wage increase to $8 an hour.
said he “cannot see that a Cabinet position would be justified” for an American Muslim.
opposes troop withdrawal from Iraq.
said that catching bin Laden would be “insignificant” and it’s “not worth moving heaven and earth.”
supports drilling for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
supports penalties for doctors who perform an abortion.
would “absolutely” support a state constitutional amendment to define life as beginning at conception, which would restrict women’s right to an abortion.
pledged to expand a Bush-Era policy of permitting doctors to deny women access to contraceptives.
drafted a bill to exempt a religious group from nondiscrimination rules, allowing it to ban gay couples from adopting children.
refused to condemn the booing of a gay soldier at a GOP debate.
blamed pornography for the ******ia Tech shooting. (WTF?)
first act as president would be to allow all states to opt out of health reform through executive action, which would be illegal.
feels Americans’ pain because he’s “also unemployed.” Romney was worth $250 million in 2008.
won’t release his tax returns.
“loves” george bush
thinks windows in airplanes should open
believes that rapists should have parental rights over children resulting from the rape they committed.

Kiwi 11-03-2012 11:32 AM

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Posted by Pazx (Post 226339)
As governor, vetoed a minimum wage increase to $8 an hour.

What? To increase to it, it has to be below $8... In New Zealand the minimum wage is $12. Do things just cost less, or is it the way it is?

Pazx 11-03-2012 02:48 PM

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Posted by Kiwi (Post 226342)
What? To increase to it, it has to be below $8... In New Zealand the minimum wage is $12. Do things just cost less, or is it the way it is?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=minimum+wage+united+states

It's below $8 an hour. That's all I can say.

Jones 11-03-2012 04:35 PM

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Posted by NCJohn (Post 226324)
This thread isn't going anywhere because you are not addressing my question I asked or any other points brought up. You instead have to result to relying on nonsense forms of media and avoiding questions like a typical democrat.

Like a typical democrat?
Labeling someone a typical democrat on this fourm is pretty funny because people on this fourm may pick sides and thats fine, but they don't represent any of the two parties at all. In fact, the majority of people on this fourm probably don't know enough or aren't old enough to make educated decisions like that.

And two, there are so many good examples that the republicans can be called out for. And please don't say "what examples" because they aren't really hard to find. Ill start you off, Fox News or Sarah Palin.

Oh and want another good fact, The U.S spends 5 times more on the military then the second biggest spender, China and more than the next top 10 biggest spenders combined. In fact, republicans want to increase spending in the military.

Xavier 11-03-2012 05:14 PM

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Posted by NCJohn (Post 226324)
This thread isn't going anywhere because you are not addressing my question I asked or any other points brought up. You instead have to result to relying on nonsense forms of media and avoiding questions like a typical democrat.

Tell me why George Bush didn't stop 9/11 even though he was privied the possibility that terrorists would in fact hijack American commercial planes, and I'll get back to you.

Also, I am not Democrat. Neither am I Republican. I don't care what party a nominee comes from, for example, if Ron Paul had been nominated, I would support him instead.

And if we're going to talk about avoiding questions, maybe watch any of the debates, especially the vice presidential, and watch Paul Ryan avoid questions (one concerning his tax plan) that Martha Raddatz repeated several times because he kept ignoring them.

And me relying on "nonsense forms of media":

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Posted by Xavier (Post 226260)
Don't take this video seriously.


NCJohn 11-03-2012 05:37 PM

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Posted by Xavier (Post 226455)
Tell me why George Bush didn't stop 9/11 even though he was privied the possibility that terrorists would in fact hijack American commercial planes, and I'll get back to you.

Oh god, don't tell me you're some bat **** crazy 9/11 conspiracist. Where in the hell did you hear that the bush adminastration knew before hand the the events of 9/11 were to unfold. You might as well say that 9/11 was an inside job. Do you honestly believe the government would have let thousands of innocent civilians die? Also how does the Bush adminastration's foreign policy have any correlation to the current election? So once again I'm going to ask, why were security forces withdrawn from Benghazi prior to the attacks on the embassy?

Higbey 11-03-2012 05:42 PM

A mod needs to lock this thread. There should be A way to make a poll without comments. The poll is okay, but the posting on this thread is just flaming and arguing.

NCJohn 11-03-2012 05:44 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 226459)
A mod needs to lock this thread. There should be A way to make a poll without comments. The poll is okay, but the posting on this thread is just flaming and arguing.

That's bascically what politics is :P lol

Yephenpeace 11-03-2012 08:46 PM

I don't like either of them.

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Posted by Rexx (Post 225826)
So, Obama prevented a second Great Depression. Things could have been a lot worse.
Go to your local mall, are people still buying things? Yes.
Go to the gas station, are people still buying gas? Yes.
Is there mass poverty and hunger riots? No.

The country is not in as bad as shape as politicians or the media makes it out to be. We are sure as heck doing a lot better than many other countries.

The deficit is terrible right now. I don't think the media is overreacting at all.

Obama didn't prevent a second great depression, they're just raising the debt limit. Yes people are still buying things, but a vast majority of them are using credit cards and racking up a lot of debt. Is there mass poverty? Yes there is, and it's quite evident that job market is absolutely awful.

Also, check this out: http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
Pretty scary to see how much it goes up in a matter of seconds.

Xavier 11-03-2012 10:14 PM

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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 226540)
I don't like either of them.

I don't really care for either of them too much either, it's just Obama is less likely to start another war and end up getting me or one of my siblings drafted.

poverty > shooting/being shot

HappyCat123 11-03-2012 10:48 PM

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Posted by Xavier (Post 226599)
I don't really care for either of them too much either, it's just Obama is less likely to start another war and end up getting me or one of my siblings drafted.

poverty > shooting/being shot

I'd rather be payed to be in the military than be homeless and sleeping on a park bench. I'd rather be taking control of my life, getting a decent income and taking some risks than living in poverty.

NCJohn 11-04-2012 12:31 AM

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Posted by HappyCat123 (Post 226616)
I'd rather be payed to be in the military than be homeless and sleeping on a park bench. I'd rather be taking control of my life, getting a decent income and taking some risks than living in poverty.

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Posted by Xavier (Post 226599)
I don't really care for either of them too much either, it's just Obama is less likely to start another war and end up getting me or one of my siblings drafted.

poverty > shooting/being shot

The U.S. does not draft soldiers anymore and hasn't since the Vietnam War.

Xavier 11-04-2012 12:59 AM

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Posted by NCJohn (Post 226657)
The U.S. does not draft soldiers anymore and hasn't since the Vietnam War.

True, but the government has always rewritten what it says it will do and not do. History repeats itself time and time again bud. :P World War III will come in due time.


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