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Ghettoicedtea 06-21-2014 07:26 AM

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 483176)
360 shooting
Jet packs

A smart player dominates a dumb player with "skill"
Tactics are way more crucial to zone than era
Dofferent tactics
Guns behave different and can use these to your advantage
Ammo system isnt the same as eras
Grenade launchers actually lob grenades
Bikes that shoot
Not horrid p2w like era, zone still is p2w though
Classes
Gang system completly different
Bases are not close quarters dominate but provide a variaty of ranges
250 ammo (makes a massive difference)
Grenades default grab button
Hotkeys are automatic and free
Guns are used in zone way more than melees
Bomb spar
Graphics
Achivements rewards system different (it gives the user the amount of zc it says it does and isnt based off points like era)

Look, im getting really ****in tired of people saying zone is like era because it is NOTHING Like era, its almost as bad as cod to battlefield. If you tried to play zone like you did era, youre not going to have fun on zone. Im ok with trading items because it adds in more stuff to do and you can get things you never could get. But i am with cookie on this on about zone being a competitive server. Because it is still somewhat competitive and can easily be made incredibly skill based if weapons were properly balanced. Im getting really tired of seeing nothing but god damn rippers in bases and SEEING HOW GEMINI IS STILL NOT ****ING FIXED AND THAT WOULD BE THE MOST COMPETITIVE BASE. I wish they would make spring and CTF not squad based but an actual event.

MrSimons 06-21-2014 07:34 AM

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 483176)
This is because you're a filthy casual bruh. Zone to some was an actual server with skill and competition. This server is a horrible abomination that continues to take from Era. Tell me, what exaxtly sets Zone apart from Era? Aside from:

360 shooting
Jet packs

I'm drawing a blank.

360 Shooting
Jetpacks
Bomb Spar
Dusk Spar
Mech Spar
Side Scroller Planet
CTF
Robots
In Game Forums
Whiteboards
Classes
In Demand (not active right now, but its a weekly shop)
Planets
Player Chosen Seasonal Tournaments
Variety of Events

I could go into great detail on a few of these how they have tons of features that are 100% iZone. Now why don't you stop being so damn ignorant?

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Posted by Dragoon Victory (Post 483149)
There's nothing to trade anyways..
There was no good REASON to put this in effect.
Stefan obviously wanted a second Era for double the profit.
Now all of the Era guys will play Zone too, or BOTH, and the original players will leave.

You guys screwed up.


Feel bad.

Not aiming for a second iEra, no one on the Zone staff team is. But era has some damn good features that Zone could use, and that Era is gladly giving to us, so why waste it? Plus most of these features have been/are being updated to work more with Zone.

No one would play a second iEra, they'd play the first. Thats why we aren't going that direction.

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Posted by kenovo (Post 482627)
People who said that obviously came from Era and have very little imagination. Hey, I wanted Trading. But using an exact replica of Era's trading system is just unoriginal. We are playing Zone for Zone, not for some knock off of Era.

My point is that trading is a very insignificant feature. And if you think iZone is a replica of iEra because it has the same trade system and some of the same jobs then I don't know what to say. There are tons of game series out there that use the same features between their games. Might as well complain that we have the same profile system as era too, and didn't make our own.

kenthefruit 06-21-2014 08:02 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 483183)
360 Shooting
Jetpacks
Bomb Spar
Dusk Spar
Mech Spar
Side Scroller Planet
CTF
Robots
In Game Forums
Whiteboards
Classes
In Demand (not active right now, but its a weekly shop)
Planets
Player Chosen Seasonal Tournaments
Variety of Events

I could go into great detail on a few of these how they have tons of features that are 100% iZone. Now why don't you stop being so damn ignorant?



Not aiming for a second iEra, no one on the Zone staff team is. But era has some damn good features that Zone could use, and that Era is gladly giving to us, so why waste it? Plus most of these features have been/are being updated to work more with Zone.

No one would play a second iEra, they'd play the first. Thats why we aren't going that direction.



My point is that trading is a very insignificant feature. And if you think iZone is a replica of iEra because it has the same trade system and some of the same jobs then I don't know what to say. There are tons of game series out there that use the same features between their games. Might as well complain that we have the same profile system as era too, and didn't make our own.

Trading is a very significant feature, more significant than the original content you stated Zone has. I honestly couldn't care less at this point, like everything else, it'll blow over in a week. Original content is appreciated more than a copy, or a slightly edited version of something.

MrSimons 06-21-2014 08:12 AM

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Posted by kenovo (Post 483191)
Trading is a very significant feature, more significant than the original content you stated Zone has. I honestly couldn't care less at this point, like everything else, it'll blow over in a week. Original content is appreciated more than a copy, or a slightly edited version of something.

I believe we have a different opinion on what is significant content. In my opinion trading isn't even content, it is just a simple feature in the game.

Also trade tables now allow the trading of hats, "special" hats cannot be traded such as 1k Squad Hour hats and Pk Shop hats.

Dragoon Victory 06-21-2014 09:35 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 483183)
360 Shooting
Not aiming for a second iEra, no one on the Zone staff team is. But era has some damn good features that Zone could use, and that Era is gladly giving to us, so why waste it? Plus most of these features have been/are being updated to work more with Zone.

No one would play a second iEra, they'd play the first. Thats why we aren't going that direction.

It's too bad you made it though, correct?
It justs seems like an aesthetically different level pack.

MrSimons 06-21-2014 09:46 AM

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Posted by Dragoon Victory (Post 483207)
It's too bad you made it though, correct?
It justs seems like an aesthetically different level pack.

I'm assuming you've read nothing I've posted, haven't played zone for awhile, or are a troll.

Mejico Josh 06-21-2014 01:47 PM

Not gonna lie it is'nt the whole idea of trade tables that would bother me, its the fact that you can trade guns which is so stupid

Stratus 06-21-2014 02:39 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 483183)
Not aiming for a second iEra, no one on the Zone staff team is. But era has some damn good features that Zone could use, and that Era is gladly giving to us, so why waste it? Plus most of these features have been/are being updated to work more with Zone.

Actually that's wrong. Stefan is on the stafflist and he wants a second iEra. I remember him forcing the LATs (including myself) to make a Post-Aypocalyptic iEra. Then he called the map off like a idiot at the last minute.

Cookie Xanadu 06-21-2014 02:54 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 483181)
A smart player dominates a dumb player with "skill" Funny
Tactics are way more crucial to zone than era Very little difference in tactics aside from being able to shoot on an angle
Dofferent tactics Same as above
Guns behave different and can use these to your advantage Guns behave all the same. Not much variety or use for niche
Ammo system isnt the same as eras Minor differences but every game with guns needs an ammo system. This is neutral
Grenade launchers actually lob grenades 360 shooting with a grenade launche gives more directions
Bikes that shoot Okay, assuming Era doesn't have a helicopter, Zone gets this
Not horrid p2w like era, zone still is p2w though P2W is P2W
Classes Zone gets this
Gang system completly different Gang system is pretty similar to every other iServer. Make gang, get time, orgasm over hats.
Bases are not close quarters dominate but provide a variaty of ranges Bases are bases in every server. Neutral
250 ammo (makes a massive difference) This is negligible
Grenades default grab button I fail to see how this is good
Hotkeys are automatic and free Hotkeys are hotkeys. Granted free is good, all games have hotkeys.
Guns are used in zone way more than melees Melees in Zone are utter trash. They provide no bonus aside from the attack speed of a heroin junky with massive damage. Some might deflect bullets, but that's it.
Bomb spar Event, also taken from the old mini game server and characters replaced with bots.
Graphics Different texture for the same game
Achivements rewards system different (it gives the user the amount of zc it says it does and isnt based off points like era) Achievements give rewards. This is neutral
.

Not much different

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 483183)
360 Shooting Aside from this
Jetpacks Aside from this as well
Bomb Spar This is an event
Dusk Spar Not really much difference
Mech Spar Something that's actually Zone
Side Scroller Planet Recycled planet, granted it's from PC Zone, I'll give Zone this
CTF Event, all games have events on Graal. Era also has CTF
Robots Trashy little sprites that take up space and distract others
In Game Forums This is recent and a nice edition. I give props for this
Whiteboards Meh, this is part of the useless housing
Classes Classes gets a point
In Demand (not active right now, but its a weekly shop) It's a shop
Planets More tediousness in choosing where to go. It'd be better if it were all just put together as one continuous map
Player Chosen Seasonal Tournaments Eh, it's an event. 50/50 on this
Variety of Events Events, as stated above; all games have events.

Still not much.

doodleman171 06-21-2014 03:15 PM

As long as if there is an "open market" I'm ok, but We need some more planets and quests. Squad bases which involve boarding the other's ship and fighting through it's various passageways, capturing spawn points as you progress, and reaching the core(flag). New species and customizeable ships. Have the space map use similar concept to valkoria's map. :0 Bringing concepts from the past and improving upon them, but also introducing new content as well. "Zone Super Smash" is what I hope will come. :3

Dragoon Victory 06-21-2014 03:55 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 483210)
I'm assuming you've read nothing I've posted, haven't played zone for awhile, or are a troll.

Don't act like Stefan didn't just want another valuable money maker.

Emera 06-21-2014 04:32 PM

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Posted by Dragoon Victory (Post 483249)
Don't act like Stefan didn't just want another valuable money maker.

http://media1.giphy.com/media/OTF3nGoVtxc4M/200_s.gif

Vendetta 06-21-2014 06:37 PM

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Posted by Stratus (Post 483238)
Actually that's wrong. Stefan is on the stafflist and he wants a second iEra. I remember him forcing the LATs (including myself) to make a Post-Aypocalyptic iEra. Then he called the map off like a idiot at the last minute.

I remember working on this, we were given a copy of the Era gmap to completely base the post-apocalyptic one off. I'm glad it was called off though.

Stratus 06-21-2014 06:40 PM

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Posted by Vendetta (Post 483280)
I remember working on this, we were given a copy of the Era gmap to completely base the post-apocalyptic one off. I'm glad it was called off though.

Ya, but it was a pain in the arse plus we worked forever on it.

Vendetta 06-21-2014 07:00 PM

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Posted by Stratus (Post 483283)
Ya, but it was a pain in the arse plus we worked forever on it.

Yeah, I remember spending hours on it.

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 483183)
360 Shooting
Jetpacks
Bomb Spar
Dusk Spar
Mech Spar
Side Scroller Planet
CTF
Robots
In Game Forums
Whiteboards
Classes
In Demand (not active right now, but its a weekly shop)
Planets
Player Chosen Seasonal Tournaments
Variety of Events

I could go into great detail on a few of these how they have tons of features that are 100% iZone. Now why don't you stop being so damn ignorant?

It's a hell of a lot easier to list differences than similarities when comparing any server with another. I don't dislike trading, it doesn't bother me that much. It's just the fact that so many ideas and features from iEra are being used on iZone, one or two would be fine but there's a lot more than that.


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