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Aguzo 06-17-2015 07:05 PM

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Posted by Kuz (Post 580911)
Yeah but what if nobody on my tier system is not online. Does that mean I can't spar or have to wait for them to log on?

Trust me, there will be plenty on for you to spar. You can always find a player match instead of ranked, which will matchmake you against any other sparrer (also instant/stated in op)

Kuz 06-17-2015 07:06 PM

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Posted by zideruicmirage (Post 580912)
closest one to tier faces you just like any other matchmaking system(i assume that is)

Yeah facing someone in a lower tier. someone could just log on at a certain time where nobody on their tier is online and just constantly face the lower tier group and get more wins.

Aguzo 06-17-2015 07:07 PM

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Posted by Kuz (Post 580915)
Yeah facing someone in a lower tier. someone could just log on at a certain time where nobody on their tier is online and just constantly face the lower tier group and get more wins.

They don't get any decent points from it though. Check point system section aswell, could be updated... Read, don't be lazy.

Zideruic 06-17-2015 07:08 PM

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Posted by Kuz (Post 580915)
Yeah facing someone in a lower tier. someone could just log on at a certain time where nobody on their tier is online and just constantly face the lower tier group and get more wins.

"Obviously if you face someone below you, it would have to have a steep penalty for loss, to dissuade people from selectively sparring at times where competition is lacking."

Aguzo 06-17-2015 07:08 PM

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Posted by zideruicmirage (Post 580917)
"Obviously if you face someone below you, it would have to have a steep penalty for loss, to dissuade people from selectively sparring at times where competition is lacking."

Thank you non lazy zid.

I realize that the op is long, and has a lot of information, but I wanted to go through all major key points, so that everyone would be on the same page as to how system 4 might work/have to be in order to work.

G Fatal 06-17-2015 07:12 PM

WALL of words that I didn't bother to read all.. but saw something bet point system..what happened to this?(I mean the guild hrs etc turning to points system/maybe with spar too linked in)

But As I said on another thread the ldrbds should be total wins in day/week/overall (Although for day and week its +1for win & -1for loss so still competitive[and slightly shows active/good sparrers) this solves the selective picking of spar and inactivity keeping high in list as more wins will push others ahead.

Kuz 06-17-2015 07:13 PM

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Posted by Hikaru (Post 580918)
Thank you non lazy zid.

I realize that the op is long, and has a lot of information, but I wanted to go through all major key points, so that everyone would be on the same page as to how system 4 might work.

I just skimmed through the main points in the OP since i'm on my phone and it's annoying to view posts with pictures in it since it doesn't resize on my phone.


I'd just think it'd be hard to control since we have a lack of admins and no system is ever full proof it won't take long for someone to abuse it or something. I said it's a good idea but it'd be hard to control. I'm just knit-picking the small things.

G Fatal 06-17-2015 07:14 PM

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Posted by MBK (Post 580886)
then why do tower takers get a prize at a certain target...why not Sparrers...they should also get hats at 10K,20K or whatever.


I'm pretty sure they used to/maybe still is but was capped after certain amount got

Aguzo 06-17-2015 07:22 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 580919)
WALL of words that I didn't bother to read all.. but saw something bet point system..what happened to this?(I mean the guild hrs etc turning to points system/maybe with spar too linked in)

But As I said on another thread the ldrbds should be total wins in day/week/overall (Although for day and week its +1for win & -1for loss so still competitive[and slightly shows active/good sparrers) this solves the selective picking of spar and inactivity keeping high in list as more wins will push others ahead.

No because that would not measure your skill as a sparrer x-x, wins and losses wouldn't matter. Tiers would place you around a certain level, depending on how well you do against the people around those levels.

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Posted by Kuz (Post 580920)
I just skimmed through the main points in the OP since i'm on my phone and it's annoying to view posts with pictures in it since it doesn't resize on my phone.


I'd just think it'd be hard to control since we have a lack of admins and no system is ever full proof it won't take long for someone to abuse it or something. I said it's a good idea but it'd be hard to control. I'm just knit-picking the small things.

You can't abuse it. I added all the defenses that abused the past systems. You can't selective spar, you can't camp on ladder. Don't remember what else used to happen besides those two. You don't need admins to control it? Unless someone is hacking. Which all you have to do is report them.

G Fatal 06-17-2015 07:26 PM

Spar isn't skill when 9/10 of them delay or lag.
Tiers play there own tier? (if so that will make it more inactive) tiers play other tiers? would ruin point of the tiers and would still not measure skill accurately.

Kuz 06-17-2015 07:28 PM

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Posted by Hikaru (Post 580929)
No because that would not measure your skill as a sparrer x-x, wins and losses wouldn't matter. Tiers would place you around a certain level, depending on how well you do against the people around those levels.



You can't abuse it. I added all the defenses that abused the past systems. You can't selective spar, you can't camp on ladder. Don't remember what else used to happen besides those two. You don't need admins to control it? Unless someone is hacking. Which all you have to do is report them.

Alright I think it'd combat the activity downfall of sparring because everyone will try and move up. Maybe have a reward for each tier you move up?

Zideruic 06-17-2015 07:31 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 580934)
Spar isn't skill when 9/10 of them delay or lag.
Tiers play there own tier? (if so that will make it more inactive) tiers play other tiers? would ruin point of the tiers and would still not measure skill accurately.

Complaining about lag should hurt your tier placement too ;P

I'd be bronze

Aguzo 06-17-2015 07:37 PM

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Posted by Kuz (Post 580936)
Alright I think it'd combat the activity downfall of sparring because everyone will try and move up. Maybe have a reward for each tier you move up?

Those were added. I'll just make it bold saying reward section in op.

Crono 06-17-2015 07:38 PM

No idea how some of you put up with the lag and delay.

Kuz 06-17-2015 07:43 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 580944)
No idea how some of you put up with the lag and delay.

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