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Conquest 08-16-2015 04:22 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 605046)
Let's all hold dicks and reminisce about pre-P2P Graal.

It was definitely a very enchanted era; don't be jelly

Distorted_P2P 08-16-2015 06:42 PM

D) Inspire Change

Crono 08-16-2015 08:19 PM

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Posted by antago (Post 605064)
It was definitely a very enchanted era; don't be jelly

Got my fair share of nostalgia considering I'm pathetic enough to have actually played this from 2000 until now but you don't see me fapping about it.

Neil 08-16-2015 08:34 PM

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Posted by antago (Post 605064)
It was definitely a very enchanted era; don't be jelly


Conquest 08-16-2015 11:10 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 605147)
Got my fair share of nostalgia considering I'm pathetic enough to have actually played this from 2000 until now but you don't see me fapping about it.

Right. Reminiscing, gratitude, and inspiration are the work of ungracious egoists. Do you always look for opportunities to stomp others to look better by illusory contrast, or is it that you only play games not love them?

WaFFL3Cake 08-17-2015 05:45 AM

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Posted by contego (Post 600593)
@antago I started when the spawn location was just on the other side of Angel Clan right below the current Graal City bank. I didn't make it far since I had a 133mhz pc with AOL dial up. I was instantly PK'd at log in. I had started Graal as Shadow briefly, then I tried logging on as Xena. I remember when you died you respawned at that same place. Rarely could get far with the PK'rs because I moved sooooo slow until I made Xena and then killermech got me to safety(<3). Later in '99 I made contego and told everyone I was Xena.

what was the playercount like back then?

James205 08-17-2015 08:17 AM

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Posted by contego (Post 605002)
wb James205!


Lmao@Shaded Leg...

yoyoyo long time

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Posted by Ichor (Post 605006)
Some of these 'older' players are really oblivious lol...

true fact I owned the account 'ichor' on graal back in 2001... wonder if it still works. It was the actual name of my old graal website until I turned it into "Teral Online"

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Posted by antago (Post 605012)
It's not that I'm wrong; I just questioned the validity. So provide us proof if you want; it's fine. Like I said, I don't care if I'm wrong, I just reserve the right to question given my knowledge

And this curiosity does not mean "Oh right! We proved you wrong you piece of ****!" It just means I admit I don't know and my doubts publicly to receive insight I consider valid from whoever cares

And FYI you TOO joined Graal forums in July not March so your estimation isn't proof to me either because I've encountered dozens of liars of all walks of life that your word isn't always enough. I don't see playerworlds being available so quickly but I simply don't care. I question not pretend to trump. Your "inherent" sovereignty doesn't mean anything considering I didn't know of you in March 2001. I only go off my experience, and I am allowed to speak thereof

I don't blame you for questioning the the validity of it because you're right about one thing- a lot of players claim to have played way before than they truly have and stretch the facts, but it really doesn't matter at the end of the day. I don't know why they do or why it comes up constantly (it's not like the game was HUGE back in the day). But a lot of the people posting here are some of the more well known back in the day... so kind of sounds like you missed out on some stuff.

I joined the Graal forums before that and shared an account with Immitat0r, I was a poor kid back then and wasn't able to fork over the moneys for an account to post on the forums so I shared that account with Immitat0r before they made it against the rules.

As for 'proof' I'll have to look more but here is the original ZIP that was packaged for contego to be merged with Tyriel's levels (I archive EVERYTHING) which was then sent to Stefan:

http://i.imgur.com/sdJ3Szz.png

Details:
http://i.imgur.com/qDuZMq7.png

Inside Zip:
http://i.imgur.com/4Eu2kmV.png

I can look through logs of when I got word we got approved and launched but it was a really quick review... some might say maybe Stefan never looked at it and just said FINE WHATEVER APPROVED because we were very persistent to get it up. The conclusion is we aren't lying- I have no reason to lie about something like this.

The original area0... oh god what am I looking at:
http://i.imgur.com/3oZQKPY.png
http://i.imgur.com/5CBIGll.png

Fun fact- this was my PM logs with you (first one kind of a jerk response):
http://i.imgur.com/66TNOAU.png
http://i.imgur.com/AZq6nXq.png

Also found a video showing how much of a rebel/badass i was back in the day:


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Posted by Crono (Post 605046)
Let's all hold dicks and reminisce about pre-P2P Graal.

I'll never let go

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Posted by antago (Post 605064)
It was definitely a very enchanted era; don't be jelly

It was all fun but I do feel like some oldies talk about it a bit too much and treat it like they have some kind of entitlement :)

contego 08-17-2015 09:52 AM

@James205 - Shaded Legend to be re-released on fabcebook 03/16/2016? 15 years after original date. =) iSL

Ha I kid, however I was seriously considering committing to and continuing what we started a few months ago but the current PWA said I would have to pay for a server. "I would honor it being a classic and allowing you to upload it again but I never liked or played Shaded Legend and don't believe in it." -MysticalDragon PWA Admin. -.-

James205 was basically unofficially a co-manager at release because without him we would have never had anywhere near the levels completed. In fact I learned mostly how to level better from working with him. Truly one of the most brilliant minds I've come across and worked with. <3

Shaded Legend wouldn't have probably existed if it wasn't for James205, who knows. Tyriel, my old friend who opened SL w/ us, did the scripting for the intro but mostly stopped there. I know he got sidetracked with something irl so he shortly left after release, but an awesome guy and very talented.

P.S.
Please tell Rusty I said hello!
/longdistancehug

Crono 08-17-2015 11:30 AM

Ah yes, the road tiles rightclicked into dirt paths style.

James205 08-17-2015 06:08 PM

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Posted by contego (Post 605346)
"I would honor it being a classic and allowing you to upload it again but I never liked or played Shaded Legend and don't believe in it." -MysticalDragon PWA Admin. -.-

That is a terrible quote and why is there even PWA still? Is MysticalDragon from Delteria? I'm going to assume it's more geared for mobile/FB but it's probably one of the most pointless 'jobs' out there and has been for years. What I don't get is why do they still have completely unrealistic standards for PC Graal servers? Why not allow more flexibility to get on the server list... what would it possibly hurt? No one even plays PC Graal anymore, if the server is crappy then people just wont play it... but no one plays already?

contego 08-17-2015 09:55 PM

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Posted by James205 (Post 605474)
That is a terrible quote and why is there even PWA still? Is MysticalDragon from Delteria? I'm going to assume it's more geared for mobile/FB but it's probably one of the most pointless 'jobs' out there and has been for years. What I don't get is why do they still have completely unrealistic standards for PC Graal servers? Why not allow more flexibility to get on the server list... what would it possibly hurt? No one even plays PC Graal anymore, if the server is crappy then people just wont play it... but no one plays already?

If you ask me, I think he didn't want the competition. =p

Conquest 08-17-2015 10:59 PM

Graal will definitely go down in history as one of the first MMORPGs EVER. To me, I don't know what entitlement one would expect except the sheer exhilaration and laughter. The game is public to everyone, always has been; development as well.

James205 08-17-2015 11:00 PM

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Posted by antago (Post 605577)
Graal will definitely go down in history as one of the first MMORPGs EVER. To me, I don't know what entitlement one would expect except the sheer exhilaration and laughter. The game is public to everyone, always has been; development as well.

Just imagine if it actually had good management behind the game, it could've been a lot more.

Conquest 08-17-2015 11:02 PM

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Posted by James205 (Post 605580)
Just imagine if it actually had good management behind the game, it could've been a lot more.

This game is popping and it only gets better; it is destiny.

James205 08-17-2015 11:05 PM

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Posted by antago (Post 605583)
This game is popping and it only gets better; it is destiny.

I want to believe but I completely disagree with that. If managed right it could but with the current management it wont.


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