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kenthefruit 10-31-2015 10:38 PM

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Posted by Ivy (Post 627891)
Because they need a lot of improvement

Ivy, silly, we understand you don't like the content this year, we have heard it in several posts. Just keep in mind improvement is something that takes time and the staff team strives for. No one is automatically an expert pixel artist with the talent to do anything. It takes time and practice. You should know this, just check your first art thread.

Arsenal 10-31-2015 10:47 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 627906)
are we asking for something impossible? no, i don't think so.
we're complaining cus we know they can do better and it's possible. im glad that i just watched leah's gst hat time lapse video. she's making on a small head without hairs on them. i wonder if the other gfx admins are doing the same. they prolly use their own head as a template.

which is why some hats are too big, too small, unmatched and not synced properly. classic gfx admins need to pick out some commonly used custom/normal heads and fit the hat through them first before releasing it.

Yeah I agree. I was wondering why the pumpkin hat was bigger than your body.

Striken 10-31-2015 10:51 PM

iBub & Kenovo nailed it.

Ruppy 10-31-2015 10:59 PM

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Posted by Striken (Post 627905)
With everyone salty with Halloween, let's hope the same doesn't happen with Christmas.

Most of these people are not salty they are just expressing their opinion. Not all criticism is making fun or is "salty". Yes, some people are over doing it but the hats at crypt did not match angles at all like zet said which makes me think the admins did this in a rush. I applaud them for their amount of hats produced but the quality doesn't match which is disappointing so id suggest focus more on quality rather than quantity and also, use color palette from earlier years because the colors nowadays are dull like others have also suggested

Arsenal 10-31-2015 11:02 PM

So, what did you guys get from club crypt? I got the Halloween beanie (spider one) and the Spooky mask (which I regretted literally a minute after). In the vip room, I got a skeleton pet.

Ivy 10-31-2015 11:10 PM

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Posted by kenovo (Post 627916)
Ivy, silly, we understand you don't like the content this year, we have heard it in several posts. Just keep in mind improvement is something that takes time and the staff team strives for. No one is automatically an expert pixel artist with the talent to do anything. It takes time and practice. You should know this, just check your first art thread.

Why don't they hire people who have more skill/experience then?

Striken 10-31-2015 11:13 PM

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Posted by Ivy (Post 627931)
Why don't they hire people who have more skill/experience then?

If there were applicants with those qualities then they would have already been on the team in the first place.

Sun* 10-31-2015 11:46 PM

Im not gonna hide, i made like 80% of the stuff for this event, club crypt wasnt supposed to had that much amont of hats, i made alot for TrickOrTreat and the hats got moved to Club Crypt.
Stop blaming the hole gfx team and questioning the way the members are recruted.

Alexmo 10-31-2015 11:48 PM

Wow you made most of the stuff well since you made so much and worked so hard pls everyone stop being so salty

Thallen 10-31-2015 11:50 PM

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Posted by Sun* (Post 627940)
Im not gonna hide, i made like 80% of the stuff for this event, club crypt wasnt supposed to had that much amont of hats, i made alot for TrickOrTreat and the hats got moved to Club Crypt.
Stop blaming the hole gfx team and questioning the way the members are recruted.

why does one person have to make 80% of the graphics
how many other people are there

kenthefruit 10-31-2015 11:53 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 627944)
why does one person have to make 80% of the graphics
how many other people are there

its been established sun is a factory and has a sweatshop working behind her


but really it's just the fact shes fast and imaginative

SomeGuy 10-31-2015 11:56 PM

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Posted by Arsenal (Post 627926)
So, what did you guys get from club crypt? I got the Halloween beanie (spider one) and the Spooky mask (which I regretted literally a minute after). In the vip room, I got a skeleton pet.


The weird ghost hat with 'white stuff' on his tongue.

Ivy 11-01-2015 12:43 AM

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Posted by Ruppy (Post 627923)
Most of these people are not salty they are just expressing their opinion. Not all criticism is making fun or is "salty". Yes, some people are over doing it but the hats at crypt did not match angles at all like zet said which makes me think the admins did this in a rush. I applaud them for their amount of hats produced but the quality doesn't match which is disappointing so id suggest focus more on quality rather than quantity and also, use color palette from earlier years because the colors nowadays are dull like others have also suggested

Some of the hats reviews are colored so they stand out.
Club crypt:

The hats are extremely dull. They tend to lack depth and the colors used often don't look great together. This year's hats had colors that didn't really fit together. (Ex: look at the eyeball hat and the color used to shade it. They are oversimplified and look more like children's drawings than cartoony.
A majority of the hats are also in the wrong perspective.

-Eyeball hat continued:
The lightsource is kind of weird for Graal, especially because the shadow was put on the top. Eyeballs aren't made out of flat, dull colors. It should have a shinier look to it so it is more lively! I would suggest referencing the eyeball hat that Drea Azari made last year. You can find his profile in the guild (Azari) if you'd like to see a collection of his work. It's displayed inside of his house.

-Some of the hats look good/adequate in the front view, and absolutely horrid in the side view.
(the skeleton hood looks like a severely deformed marshmallow on the side view). Sure, side views may not be the easiest thing for some artists, but you could always reference a hat that already exists on the server! (Coco makes some pretty sexy hoods). The other views are fine, and the front is obviously the cutest!

Next, we have the pumpkin hat with the 3 leaves on top. (this pumpkin has been cut just right to fit nobody's head! :D)
-the leaves look like plastic
-the colors are over saturated
-the hat turns from a pumpkin with awkward highlighting on the edges in the front, to a deformed basketball that procreated with a pear.(isn't Rick Ross supposed to be controlling the pear population?) oh, and be back view is way too massive. It doesn't even compare with the size of the front view.

Third, we have the pumpkin hat beanie (a stylish pumpkin hat for your trash can). The lines used for shading the creases are too thick, and look like they were drawn by a 4th grader in washable markers. The shading color that is meant to give it depth is too subtle, and almost unnoticeable.
The pumpkin itself could be a tad less saturated, but it isn't all that bad. The line art is really jaggy though.
-the green thing under it is too thick, and makes the perspective look odd. It's boxy on the bottom and doesn't really have appealing colors used in general.

Forth, we have the straw hat. This hat is adorable, and is fine in every view. However, the yellow used as the base color is far over saturated and kind of takes away from the leaves.

5th, we have the straw hat. Not really sure what it's supposed to resemble, but the perspective looks odd and the ear holes leave an empty space for anyone not using a head based directly off of the noob head... The colors used are unappealing,
And the hat is misaligned on every view.
-move the front down
-sides and back need to be moved up

6th, there is the demon horns. These are cute, and I mainly bought them because leah was rocking them. However, the shading color could be a little more contrasted, and maybe a highlight could be used to give the hat a bit more depth.

The tombstone top hat... This hat is just really ugly (to me personally) and lacks any depth. It's not even close to the proper perspective, and the front looks like a cardboard cut out. The brim of the hat should just be removed, as it makes it look even less appealing. I'd personally suggest adding some tufts of grass there (tip: don't outline the bottom of the grass so it can look like it grows from the players head)
-make the highlight on the top much larger (just widen it form the top to a few pixels down. the concept isn't bad (if you exclude a poor attempt at turning it into a top hat)

the jewel spider hat simply doesn't fit my personal taste. I don't really see anything wrong with it other then the alignment of the side view being pushed too far forward.


The skull crown is an interesting concept, and if revamped if could probably look nice. The perspective is done very well.
However, the hat overall lacks any distinguishing details that would make it clear that it is a skull crown (sadly)

The colors used are too contrasted and should probably have used the colors on the bone furniture set. It looks more like a crown made of rolled up paper that's bent at the ends(this isn't meant to be mean or offensive).



The cat ears are well made and cute, they seem to be aligned well and fit on the majority of heads! They could come in more colors, but I'm not really upset about that lol
-the use of black inside of them looks bad. It didn't ruin the hat, but I feel like t watered down the quality. In my opinion, it would have made sense to stick with a better contrasting shading color than the one used (not the black), then Use a darker shade to make shadowy areas around the bottom of the sides (inside of ear, because it's a curved shape).
(I use them as wolf ears because they are generic, which isn't a bad thing!)


Bone bird top hat:
Not bad at all! Consistent in the other views and perspective is done properly.
Colors used are kind of dull, and the little skull on the front looks really weird. (It has no shading on it ._.)
The hands/antlers coming off of the sides look kind of unusual on the front view, but it doesn't ruin the hat. doesn't really fit my personal taste so I would be purchasing it, but you can't please everyone.


candle top hat: pretty cute! Colors used arent bad at all.
The animation is bad. However, I'm not saying that I could do better myself (especially when my laptop randomly decides it cant run gimp), but I honestly thought the "flames" were just really poorly made feathers flapping around. (The animation isn't really smooth either...
The little button on top is a cute touch that makes the hat unique, but it is a bit too large. Maybe making it a bit smaller (vertically) by moving the top up a pixel or two would help.
-The side view should be moved up a few pixels and maybe pushed further back.


Pumpkin patch hat: this is way too saturated. However, the design itself is cute. The lines used for he creases are jaggy, and too dark. They blend in with the eyes, and not in an appealing way
.

Purple Wizard hat: really unappealing colors. The shading color is way too contrasted from the base color, which looks unattractive on its own.
-The side views look the best, the front looks awkward and gross, while the back looks like it could have been good, but it looks like a piece of purple poop is hanging off of the back.


Spooky mask: cute hat, colors not bad, but something about the way it's shaded throws me off. The face on it is cool :smile:. My personal opinion on the colors is that they aren't really that appealing (to me, others may love them) and they are a tad too dark.
-I'm not really into masks; so maybe I judged this one a little more critically. However, I am a fan of the masks in the style of that ookami mask from nexus (most of them were like that). This mask is in that style, but the design is obviously far different. Its design isn't necessarily unique, but you can only come up with so many things for a holiday after a few years.



Afterthoughts:
-hopefully some of the advice I gave may be taken into consideration, and at least some of the hats may be edited/fixed.

-I know like I came off as harsh and ignorant in my earlier posts and want to apologize for it.

- I am aware of the mean spirited humor sprinkled in this post.

-I will probably be doing edits of the hats (some) because I have free time and it would probably be a fun project

-I would rate the hats on the number scale, but I feel like that would be kind of pointless, and would be affected by my personal preferences anyway.

-sorry 4 the wall of text fam

Note:
I'm too lazy to critique the hats in the other rooms. I'm sure this wall of text is plenty to read, if you actually bother.

This review isn't meant to be mean spirited, and is merely a reflection of my own thoughts. I have included ways to improve the hats(most anyway), But I know that some of the suggestions I made were worded a bit more like complaints. This wasn't intentional, but because I'm typing on an iPhone (with a cracked top of the screen) I'm really not trying to go back and fix all of it

Some of the punctuation may be incorrect, but I typed a pretty massive wall of text and really don't want to scroll up a tiny text box to find these errors.

TD* 11-01-2015 12:46 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 627944)
why does one person have to make 80% of the graphics
how many other people are there

I doubt that Sun had to make so many hats.

Given that that the team was entirely made of volunteers, I presume that each had to make one or two hats for Halloween. That would make this year's Club Crypt on par with the previous Halloween. Sun having plenty of free time, I'm guessing she devoted that time to making more Halloween content.

Could be wrong but that's my theory.

Ivy 11-01-2015 12:53 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 627944)
why does one person have to make 80% of the graphics
how many other people are there

A lot of the members of the team are inactive. (From what I've heard in the past)

So work tends to get pinned on the more active devs.

I kind of agree with you though, because I personally prefer some specific staff's styles and when a holiday's content is made mostly by one person who's style isn't really appealing (not to me anyway) it's a huge disappointment.

I love a lot of Sun's work though, especially the heads and bodies she's made.


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