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Cecily 05-03-2016 02:05 PM

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Posted by iDarkness (Post 701534)
Yeah silver has great ideas and could fix zone up nice if only he didnt have to go threw carlito for EVERY little thing in which then carlito declines 90% of and then the other 10% never get done cause carlito won't do anything but play league all day.

so are you saying silver only has ideas and every idea carlito approves must be done by carlito? what does silver do then?

Carlito shouldn't be the one that has to do everything, He's the dev manager. :unsure:

Platinum 05-03-2016 02:10 PM

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Posted by Cecily (Post 701661)
so are you saying silver only has ideas and every idea carlito approves must be done by carlito? what does silver do then?

Carlito shouldn't be the one that has to do everything, He's the dev manager. :unsure:

No. (Most likely) Silver does most of the work, however Carlito/managers has/have to approve everything for quality control, though he rejects it because 1. he doesn't like it or 2. he can't be bothered to implement it into the server or 3. the project is too large for the current staff team (or 4!! He's AFK or hasn't logged on to view it) . The current system unfortunately works in a way that everything must go up and through the hierarchy for anything to actually be done - resulting in the distinct lack of content/good **** in zone.

should like to say I don't know much about the process of upper levels of management.
Edit: HA! Beat you to it PigParty. He brings up some good points - coding is lacking.

PigParty 05-03-2016 02:11 PM

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Posted by Cecily (Post 701661)
so are you saying silver only has ideas and every idea carlito approves must be done by carlito? what does silver do then?

Carlito shouldn't be the one that has to do everything, He's the dev manager. :unsure:

Coding is the #1 problem. Things need coded. Silver knows some coding (I don't know the extent) but he also does levels. Management has always been the problem. Ideas come easy, but judgement, work, and leadership is what's needed.

G Fatal 05-03-2016 04:59 PM

Wait who's Carlito ? I got skype messages from him awhile back Ithink (Isn't he from delteria? or me thinking another person?) I highly disagree with these managers that always have to approve on something, if the majority of staff like and think could be good for game then there should be way round that, whats alex think of these ideas? .. When I was staff for zone I made my own project[never completed but done few stuff for it-mainly because I've only done basic scripts and that I didn't have rights for most stuff as a gfx(But everyone should have all/most on dev..] So if its idea's that have to be approved thats some bs even on Ol' for instance noone asked clown to make anything other than what was needed but he made house ingame that has working football scripts and also a quests to find books/keys etc around map.

Unknown? 05-03-2016 05:14 PM

I guess carlito is the 2nd in command of GraalOnline? Dunno.

Lambda 05-03-2016 09:16 PM

it would actually be nice if meph managed zone lol

Crono 05-03-2016 09:29 PM

again? but it never was.

GenoIndeed 05-03-2016 11:06 PM

It was until around the time skybases were removed, then it started going downhill from there. We're currently underground

Cecily 05-03-2016 11:08 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 701708)
Wait who's Carlito ? I got skype messages from him awhile back Ithink (Isn't he from delteria? or me thinking another person?) I highly disagree with these managers that always have to approve on something, if the majority of staff like and think could be good for game then there should be way round that, whats alex think of these ideas? .. When I was staff for zone I made my own project[never completed but done few stuff for it-mainly because I've only done basic scripts and that I didn't have rights for most stuff as a gfx(But everyone should have all/most on dev..] So if its idea's that have to be approved thats some bs even on Ol' for instance noone asked clown to make anything other than what was needed but he made house ingame that has working football scripts and also a quests to find books/keys etc around map.

Alex was incredibly inactive so he resigned, looks like zone is in dire need of scripters and developers (since silver was the only dev on zone for so long, if im not wrong)

Zone could have had more developers / scripters if the old management wasn't so inactive. (alex/fried)

GenoIndeed 05-03-2016 11:15 PM

@Cecily, who are you btw?

G Fatal 05-03-2016 11:22 PM

If I was unixmad I'd tell delteria staff to get zone upto scratch(okay they haven't had much releases but the stuff on that server is quite good overall) give them the opportunity to make zone better in exchange delteria gets released(As I still doubt its release is near as how zone is atm)

Bwt so is this Carlito guy the manager and Silver (didn't he do levels i've not seen anything script wise etc about him) And if so who's doing the recruitment now? is there actually any highers in each category? As when I was there most gfx's left due to bad management-i.e the higher did fk all,yes you mr.simons. and the ones who did work wasn't rewarded even when me/others wanted to expand on stuff we had to moan for decade for the rights, even then it became a deadbeat relying on highers to do stuff.

Howler Wulfskie 05-03-2016 11:41 PM

Zone needs a new everything

Khai 05-04-2016 01:42 AM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 701827)
If I was unixmad I'd tell delteria staff to get zone upto scratch(okay they haven't had much releases but the stuff on that server is quite good overall) give them the opportunity to make zone better in exchange delteria gets released(As I still doubt its release is near as how zone is atm)

Bwt so is this Carlito guy the manager and Silver (didn't he do levels i've not seen anything script wise etc about him) And if so who's doing the recruitment now? is there actually any highers in each category? As when I was there most gfx's left due to bad management-i.e the higher did fk all,yes you mr.simons. and the ones who did work wasn't rewarded even when me/others wanted to expand on stuff we had to moan for decade for the rights, even then it became a deadbeat relying on highers to do stuff.

Carlito is a PWA and Manager of Delteria. His Skype got hacked last time, prob why you got a message from him

iDarkness 05-04-2016 04:05 AM

Deltaria is a bigger mess then zone is, have you played it recently? It's got so many bugs that make it nearly unplayable

Platinum 05-04-2016 11:11 AM

Delteria should be merged with Classic, and its staff be transferred to Zone.

For those wondering, the staff team is (at 4/5/2016):
Manager: Fried Rice
Senior Developer: Silver
Levels: Hugop; Chelterrar; Daze
Graphics: Blany; Taylor; iDave;*Adoroar
Gani team: JackOh; Cody
ZP: Gold Adelphos; Brono


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