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Marc 02-22-2016 03:43 PM

You're not going to tell me she's just no matter what sparring me from 4 sword lengths, because clearly she can rush and not get hit either!

CrimeWatcher 02-22-2016 03:47 PM

yo mark y do u put an exclamation point after every sentence.. relax bro lol

Marc 02-22-2016 03:51 PM

But then again, sparring isn't my issue for the millionth time I have an issue with guildsparring delayers if you guys don't see where they have the advantage then there's an issue but kosiris I wouldn't expect you to understand because you're one of them. And sorry for my grammatical mistake English is my second language after French... Maybe make people spawn at the wall rather then at a length where delayers can already hit you from would be another idea idk I'm shooting random things that enter my mind.

Idk crime just a habit, it happens automatically if I want to use a dot I have to think about it...

Kosiris 02-22-2016 03:59 PM

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Posted by Marc (Post 676734)
But then again, sparring isn't my issue for the millionth time I have an issue with guildsparring delayers if you guys don't see where they have the advantage then there's an issue but kosiris I wouldn't expect you to understand because you're one of them. And sorry for my grammatical mistake English is my second language after French... Maybe make people spawn at the wall rather then at a length where delayers can already hit you from would be another idea idk I'm shooting random things that enter my mind.

I do understand more than you do because judging by most of your posts on this thread you have 0 knowledge about lag works in general

Marc 02-22-2016 04:06 PM

What does lag have to do with this I never complained about lag everyone lags, I lag, server lags!

Again I'm still going to go with 2 people should film themselves sparring each other from 2 regions preferably Sarah and someone else! I already tested a VPN in a guild house with a friend of mine just so we can see how it changes depending on your server location and that's what I'm going off from I was still hitting him where he was located and he couldn't. Until I have other proof then that's what I'm going off from.

P1 02-22-2016 04:10 PM

Marc, you are clearly one of the most intelligent individuals to ever grace the Earth. I just can't ignore the fact that such a great mind is being wasted with trivial things like guild spar. As you've stated in the thread your ideas are revolutionary and I wholeheartedly agree. The staff would do well to take your amazing suggestions and implement them as soon as possible, I'm sure it's being worked right now. But what you should do now is dedicate your outstanding mind to the field of science. I'm sure you'd make countless scientific breakthroughs in no time. I hope you take this advice and use your brilliant mind to better the world, like we all know you're capable of doing.

GotenGraal 02-22-2016 04:16 PM

Marc u ole flathead screw driver neckazz ole clownazz thinking he cool sneakin in 11 items into a 10 only item lane at walmart ole "slx really has a chance this season" boy shut cho moon bounce built body ass up ol giraffe neckass bragging about placing 8th in crimewatchers spar tournaments ole space jam headazz

Marc 02-22-2016 04:21 PM

My mind is in engineering. Your sarcasm is on point. Next delayer to not agree with me welcome challenger Dae you have entered a world of no return. I clearly see that my ideas sound stupid on paper, the only people who are talking back to me is delayers lets go who's next.

I never even entered crimes tournament and goten you make me cringe even harder everytime you talk, English please not ghetto 2 year old baby talk.

Kosiris 02-22-2016 04:33 PM

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Posted by Marc (Post 676738)
What does lag have to do with this I never complained about lag everyone lags, I lag, server lags!

Again I'm still going to go with 2 people should film themselves sparring each other from 2 regions preferably Sarah and someone else! I already tested a VPN in a guild house with a friend of mine just so we can see how it changes depending on your server location and that's what I'm going off from I was still hitting him where he was located and he couldn't. Until I have other proof then that's what I'm going off from.

lag is a networking term which describes any fluctuation or delay, which includes warping, delaying, slowing down then speeding up, etc.
no one is going out of their way and film themselves to explain a concept as simple as lag to you

P1 02-22-2016 04:39 PM

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Posted by Marc (Post 676744)
My mind is in engineering.

I'm just glad that such a great mind is not being entirely wasted. You will undoubtedly revolutionise engineering, just as you have done with guild spar.

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Posted by Marc (Post 676744)
I clearly see that my ideas sound stupid on paper, the only people who are talking back to me is delayers lets go who's next.

No sir. Your ideas are not stupid, even in the slightest. They are generations ahead of their time. I will be eternally grateful to have been able to bare witness to your extraordinary mind tackle the hard hitting issues that plague guild spar. I'm sure I speak on behalf of the entire community when I thank you for what you have done. We will not forget anytime soon.

GotenGraal 02-22-2016 05:02 PM

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Posted by Marc (Post 676744)
My mind is in engineering. Your sarcasm is on point. Next delayer to not agree with me welcome challenger Dae you have entered a world of no return. I clearly see that my ideas sound stupid on paper, the only people who are talking back to me is delayers lets go who's next.

I never even entered crimes tournament and goten you make me cringe even harder everytime you talk, English please not ghetto 2 year old baby talk.

Uh who PMed you to hear your life story? I know you aren't talking about me. Resorting to lying now? Listen to how arrogant and useless your posting is. And you haven't "set me straight"; really you've specifically annoyed me. "Setting someone straight" requires respect. You haven't earned it. Enjoy your rep, it means nothing; and as for your "ideas", I have an endless amount to surpass yours but if you haven't noticed this thread isn't about you or trying to be profound; its about the people from the past who have earned a name. Considering I actually created Destiny originally, this notion that your ideas about the place are more relevant doesn't even make sense. If tthere's a big difference between PC Graal Classic past and Graal Classic Mobile, then really they wouldn't be putting Armageddon's character up on holidays, Vangel, Galen.

Really you know nothing

Sarah_ 02-22-2016 06:16 PM

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Posted by Qes
Only reason I posted this is because I'm not sure why sarah has a much harder hit box than everybody else from Europe.

If this doesn't prove that I live in Paris then idk what will(my college certificate of this year). & none of my devices are jail broken so I don't see how I could be cheating.
http://i.imgur.com/Uf9BWbX.jpg

Warhawk 02-22-2016 06:20 PM

I'm sorry for participating in old graal drama.........and good luck to everyone, I hope BTK can put together a team before GST and place top 3 on our first try.

David 02-22-2016 06:33 PM

This is the drama people actually care about btw not some old ****ty feud.

Why is everyone acting like this is all groundbreaking? Europeans lag, some delay more than others, etc etc.

None of this is new information.

Fulgore 02-22-2016 06:37 PM

God how I love these threads every 3 months

Marc 02-22-2016 06:44 PM

Delayers are just going to disagree with me. I can careless whether your cheating or not Sarah no one knows except you so I'm not going to assume anything on that context. But to go out and have you guys disagree that you don't have advantage then there's an issue, because from what I see we always spar you guys and your only excuse is that you're always sparring as if everyone is delaying so you have experience advantage. That's pure bs and you know it or else you wouldn't win 80% of the time it's not like your skills are remarkable something doesn't add up from your side!

Fulgore 02-22-2016 06:52 PM

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Posted by Marc (Post 676779)
Delayers are just going to disagree with me. I can careless whether your cheating or not Sarah no one knows except you so I'm not going to assume anything on that context. But to go out and have you guys disagree that you don't have advantage then there's an issue, because from what I see we always spar you guys and your only excuse is that you're always sparring as if everyone is delaying so you have experience advantage. That's pure bs and you know it or else you wouldn't win 80% of the time it's not like your skills are remarkable something doesn't add up from your side!

Have a consistently lower ping than 95% of Graal, including you I'm sure, and I disagree with you.

Marc 02-22-2016 06:55 PM

Also for some random reason from my screen, you seem to delay differently the lower your health gets that's what I mean by inconsistent delay and it's not like you spar differently.

disagree on what them having advantage?

My ping is usually 60-120 ms not the lowest on graal not that I live close to the server.

Thallen 02-22-2016 06:56 PM

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Posted by Marc (Post 676781)
Also for some random reason from my screen, you seem to delay differently the lower your health gets that's what I mean by inconsistent delay and it's not like you spar differently.

you're reaching "long sword hack" level of complexity now

Marc 02-22-2016 06:57 PM

Long sword hack hmm, is that even a thing ?

Fulgore 02-22-2016 06:59 PM

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Posted by Marc (Post 676785)
Long sword hack hmm, is that even a thing ?

almost there...

GotenGraal 02-22-2016 07:02 PM

Marc... Nobody here has agreed with anything you've said and their are a lot of idiots on these forums. What does that tell you lol

Mex 02-22-2016 07:04 PM

who wants to go to wrestlemania with me?

GotenGraal 02-22-2016 07:07 PM

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Posted by Mex (Post 676790)
who wants to go to wrestlemania with me?

I heard Undertaker and Ric Flair will be back to duke it out!! First one to have a heart attack loses

Thallen 02-22-2016 07:09 PM

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Posted by Marc (Post 676785)
is that even a thing

Ya, you just have to invest the time in finding an exploit somewhere in the server code and then code a weapon injector and inject your own scripted NPC into the server to lengthen your sword and then find a way to hack RC access and add that NPC to your player account

Seems about as reasonable as something that makes you delay more when your HP gets lower

HmongtheSecond 02-22-2016 07:16 PM

dw marc i gotchur back man these ingrates dont know what their talking about bro.

Mex 02-22-2016 07:24 PM

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Posted by HmongtheSecond (Post 676795)
dw marc i gotchur back man these ingrates dont know what their talking about bro.

Wat the hel u doing here, shouldnt u be leading marakas

HmongtheSecond 02-22-2016 07:35 PM

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Posted by Mex (Post 676797)
Wat the hel u doing here, shouldnt u be leading marakas

im spreading the lords word about it to these guys o cmon.

qes 02-22-2016 07:36 PM

sarah i believe you live in france. I'm just saying I know a lot of french sparers who's hitbox is a few steps ahead of them, while yours is more unpredictable. To be honest i didn't want to be bishing about it anyways because you are technically hittable but its just really hard to get hits on you compared to the general population of french sparers. Not saying your bad at sparring or anything just saying why people have the reason to be suspicious about your delay.

David 02-22-2016 07:39 PM

Suspicious of what? That she lives in Europe? You said you believe she lives in France. Are you suspicious that she is hacking? What are you talking about?

You either: don't know how to correctly use the word suspicious or think she's VPNing/hacking/whatever

HmongtheSecond 02-22-2016 07:42 PM

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Posted by Sarah_ (Post 676698)
That's bs lol my delay and hit box is like any other person but I won't just let you hit me that easily.
So you are implying that I'm vpning to France?? Am I supposed to spar in front of the Eiffel Tower and record so you can believe me? Lol

Marc why are you even talking when you probably sparred me 8 times in your sparring career, you're always in side rooms.

im not opposed to this sarah, this gst yeah i actually do wanna see u spar in front of the eiffel tower and record it

alexx 02-22-2016 07:44 PM

Have you ever even seen me 1v1? You'd know that I spar completely different and I don't play defensive unless I'm around 1hp lower than the other person. I was sparrer yesterday night you can ask any of the people I sparred there if I was defensive and I'm sure they'll tell you I wasn't.

Nanner 02-22-2016 07:47 PM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 676789)
their are a lot of idiots on these forums.

One of them is you ;>

GotenGraal 02-22-2016 07:55 PM

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Posted by Its_Nanner (Post 676814)
One of them is you ;>

you live near me buddy so you better watch your mouth

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Posted by HmongtheSecond (Post 676807)
im not opposed to this sarah, this gst yeah i actually do wanna see u spar in front of the eiffel tower and record it

Agree

qes 02-22-2016 08:02 PM

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Posted by David (Post 676806)
Suspicious of what? That she lives in Europe? You said you believe she lives in France. Are you suspicious that she is hacking? What are you talking about?

You either: don't know how to correctly use the word suspicious or think she's VPNing/hacking/whatever

I don't know much about how cheating on graal works. But I've sparred for 6 years and haven't encountered a hitbox like sarah ever. Suspicious of her delay being different due to more than JUST her location. Not saying she's cheating but if a staff member found out she was doing something to make her hitbox so hard to hit. i wouldn't be surprised either. I'm just saying why people have the right to question it, its not even complaining its more just like speaking on facts and trying to figure out if its something she can't change or not. (something staff would have to do)

Kuz 02-22-2016 08:04 PM

*Waits for predictions on a GST prediction thread*

Cxll 02-22-2016 08:21 PM

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Posted by qes (Post 676819)
I don't know much about how cheating on graal works. But I've sparred for 6 years and haven't encountered a hitbox like sarah ever. Suspicious of her delay being different due to more than JUST her location. Not saying she's cheating but if a staff member found out she was doing something to make her hitbox so hard to hit. i wouldn't be surprised either. I'm just saying why people have the right to question it, its not even complaining its more just like speaking on facts and trying to figure out if its something she can't change or not. (something staff would have to do)

I heard that when you delete system32 it deletes your hitboxs

Kosma 02-22-2016 08:32 PM


SWEDENS VERY OWN

Zetectic 02-22-2016 08:37 PM

US Texas to Brazil Brasilia - 4501.07 mi
US Texas to Netherlands Amsterdam - 5065.39 mi

Brazil average internet speed - download: 8.8 mbps // upload: 1.3 mbps
Netherlands average internet speed - download: 29.8 mbps // upload: 15.8 mbps

i sparred a Brazilian in the quick spar room. He had an insane delay + warp every 5 sec.
i sparred Bradd and David M.(both from Netherlands). almost no delay and no lag.

i never understood this. last time i made this -> thallen u said distance is all it matters.
but if one manipulates their internet speed, could it be possible that we could delay+lag?

Thallen 02-22-2016 08:45 PM

It's not land distance, it's the the distance and number of hops it takes on your route to the server + the stability of your internet

If you're on a Windows PC, you can open up Command Prompt and type "tracert graalonline.com" for an example (that won't show you your ping to the server, it's just an example)
It takes me 13 hops to reach that server, it might be different from you, it's not like the data travels in a straight line, it has to reach checkpoints and get routed to the right place

Some ISPs are given a better route to the server, like Australia is known for having bad underwater cables and low competition between ISPs so it usually sucks for them, and then lesser-developed countries have worse infrastructure thus worse routes to US servers, etc.

Marc 02-22-2016 09:17 PM

Shoutout to graal the only game where delaying and lagging gives you the advantage.

I never said I was a lag expert or know anything. I'm speaking from the observation of my screen if you were to delay or lag in any other game you get penalized. On graal someone lagging freezes and reappears and gets the most random hits and the delayer has his hitbox far away from their character...

David M. 02-22-2016 09:37 PM

I have wondered why people in France lag/delay so much more than I do. I am of 4hour driving distance to Paris (Sarah lives there) but i've never gotten a complaint on my delay/lag.

eko 02-22-2016 09:54 PM

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Posted by David M. (Post 676852)
I have wondered why people in France lag/delay so much more than I do. I am of 4hour driving distance to Paris (Sarah lives there) but i've never gotten a complaint on my delay/lag.

Because you aren't as good as her

Darkk 02-22-2016 09:57 PM

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Posted by David M. (Post 676852)
I have wondered why people in France lag/delay so much more than I do. I am of 4hour driving distance to Paris (Sarah lives there) but i've never gotten a complaint on my delay/lag.

French players like Alex83 (lives country side) and ant don't have a notable delay. They delay in a sense that shiden delays, it's minimal.

Can't think of an active sparrer that delays near as bad as Sarah.

David 02-22-2016 10:02 PM

Sugar delays as bad as Sarah for sure (and maybe kosiris sometimes), not that it matters they're all just good sparrers.

We always had people who delayed pretty badly on graal like meryl, renee, macen, etc but they never managed to win a substantial amount of tournaments/notable stuff because skilled players would always beat them.

Sarah_ 02-22-2016 10:04 PM

LOL I've seen many French players that lag worse than I do but unfortunately they are noobs each time I see one I add them. Alex pmed me that he had 200+ ms earlier and ant had obvious delay.
But if you want to see my perspective of sparring then here you go: https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCdDB3iTB3V3ZgWuFnZt-kzA
A year ago I uploaded a bunch of videos of myself sparring AND I'm showing what wifi I'm connected to, my latency and no vpns connected also I'm showing my location. I would do it again but I'm not jail broken anymore and I can't find screen recording apps. Just because you hate me because I beat you doesn't mean that you have to lie.
Waiting for someone to say another bs paragraph on how I cheat.
Yeah I live in a city but my upload and download speed aren't great.

Darkk 02-22-2016 10:16 PM

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Posted by David (Post 676860)
Sugar delays as bad as Sarah for sure (and maybe kosiris sometimes), not that it matters they're all just good sparrers.

Put sugar and Sarah in a gh next to each other and hit both with one swing. Sarah will delay more. Regardless, she can't help it so it doesn't matter.

New prediction: shiden will carry his team.

Red 02-22-2016 10:43 PM

Laughing at qes' statement, what is amazing is that when sarah isn't lagging as bad (when she went to Barcelona) You get to see her movement without the warping and its incredible probably one of the best sparrers in terms of movement if not the best.

Zetectic 02-22-2016 11:47 PM

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Posted by Sarah_ (Post 676862)
But if you want to see my perspective of sparring

we should've done that screen to screen thing back in april. it'd help a lot of people to understand this whole delay stuff.

T3CK 02-23-2016 12:58 AM

My input is that its a damn flash game on the internet at this point and on mobile devices and people who have all of this down to a science need to get a hobby. Just sayin'


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