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Fro 11-24-2016 03:27 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 743249)
*checks graalians for GST predictions*
*nope just more fro paragraphs*

ahhh i said alumni is going to carry him someone call 911
firefighter jeffrey help

sorry but if i remember correctly u have way more posts than i do bud, way longer posts than i do. Ive been at this for about 2 days, this forum is ur life. U should prolly hop off it, it seems to be getting to u.

Fro
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Thallen
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Areo 11-24-2016 04:56 AM

I'd be really nice if what team you were competing with was public, it would make predicting and the viewing experience much better imo. Sure there could be an "advantage" towards people not knowing, but c'mon now, the best teams should win regardless of whether people can prepare for them or not.

I really would like to talk about what I see at the practices, but without knowing if that's their actual team is feels kinda fruitless.

Because from what I've seen in practice TEAM BEER has been the best team, but I don't know whether people like David, Dante, or Skull will be there when the gst arrives.

Darkk 11-24-2016 05:23 AM

RD is Noss, Killman, Shiden, Mex, Me

F.F. Jeffery 11-24-2016 05:44 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 743249)
ahhh i said alumni is going to carry him someone call 911
firefighter jeffrey help

I'm still assessing the fire damage from http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37130 :0

Haze 11-24-2016 06:15 AM

dear admen, I registered myself (countless times) and I don't show up as registered. I had this issue last GST and was not allowed to spar. Pls help so I can play and spend more money on gralats :)

Linkk 11-24-2016 07:20 AM

Ahhh its me Scar. My team will place top 2 (myself, spadtastic, phural, matsugen and mew.) We have been solid in practice and have beat both Grizzly and Amity easily. Myself being a top 5 idevice gser will get us the W. Yes it's true that I have a 1.9 gs ratio.
Mixed- Whitebeard wins because PrimeTime is the best pc sparrer currently.

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Posted by DoubleliftGraal (Post 743255)
Blaze vs. Fro

Argument's getting heated

XDD ye

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 743206)
TEAM BEER

I 1v4ed you guys yesterday?

Fulgore 11-24-2016 07:26 AM

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Posted by Areo (Post 743266)
I'd be really nice if what team you were competing with was public, it would make predicting and the viewing experience much better imo. Sure there could be an "advantage" towards people not knowing, but c'mon now, the best teams should win regardless of whether people can prepare for them or not.

I really would like to talk about what I see at the practices, but without knowing if that's their actual team is feels kinda fruitless.

Because from what I've seen in practice TEAM BEER has been the best team, but I don't know whether people like David, Dante, or Skull will be there when the gst arrives.

Again...4/5 of cores will be drunk for the actual thing so don't overhype it

Nanner 11-24-2016 08:11 AM

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Posted by Linkk (Post 743271)
PrimeTime is the best pc sparrer currently.

I would have to say Brandon is

Linkk 11-24-2016 09:14 AM

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Posted by Linkk (Post 743271)
Mixed- Whitebeard wins because PrimeTime is the best pc sparrer currently.

Ahhh I take that back. Whitebeard has Red who is garb, 4v5 every spar.

Jack {A} 11-24-2016 10:13 AM

Hopefully we get a team winning mixed that noone is really expecting.

Mixed

1- Team Beer
2- Rinse and Repeat/Holy
3rd- Rinse and Repeat/Holy
4-Whitebeard

Dark Horses- Pharaoh/GTEAM, Immortal/SLX and Shark Gang

Not sure if Rinse and Repeat is a GST, they have 7k points so they might be a team so Skull will be with them and not Team Beer, another GST with the Deity guys. Holy, despite only coming back earlier this week could place far if they care enough to try, and not lose like they did last season to Immortal 2-0. Team Beer if they have David, Dante and Fulgore sparring could win the whole thing. GTEAM, look to be back, not sure what there team is, but as always they should be considered dangerous, looking to capitalise on there loss to Simba last season. Shark Gang are pretty strong and should be considered a strong team as Hmong's mixed team last season Simba did eliminate GTEAM, so they'll be looking to cause another upset. As for Whitebeard, PT has a good team with Whisky Messiah and Exalt coming from Immortal to join him, they are going strong but they need to learn to work together as I have seen them lose to Holy and Team Beer in GS lately.

iDev

1- Silver
2-Amity
3-Trollin/BTW
4-Trollin/BTW

pretty much everything has been said here, not much to say.

Crono 11-24-2016 10:23 AM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 743272)
Again...4/5 of cores will be drunk for the actual thing so don't overhype it

sadly i will be sober :(

Thallen 11-24-2016 10:27 AM

Skull's team is the best Mixed team and Abood's is the best iDevice team, just a matter of who gets played and how the brackets shape out

Crono 11-24-2016 10:44 AM

sorry guys thallen is drunk what he meant to say is team beer #1 mixed drinks bracket

Darkk 11-24-2016 10:54 AM

RD went 7-4 (8-4 according to noss) vs Amity about 12 hours ago with 5 members. Spars we lost were my fault, was busy-rushed blindly. First time we've really sparred. Best team imo is Silver
Brett and Thallen on the same team? GL

Kosiris 11-24-2016 11:54 AM

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Posted by Haze (Post 743270)
dear admen, I registered myself (countless times) and I don't show up as registered. I had this issue last GST and was not allowed to spar. Pls help so I can play and spend more money on gralats :)

^help pls

Blazegraal123 11-24-2016 12:45 PM

Don't shleeep on Trollin mixed.

Red 11-24-2016 01:00 PM

build the wall 6/1 on silver...
sarah only getting 1/6 hits lol

Thallen 11-24-2016 02:03 PM

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Posted by Linkk (Post 743271)
Myself being a top 5 idevice gser will get us the W. Yes it's true that I have a 1.9 gs ratio.


GOAT 11-24-2016 03:25 PM

waiting for comet...

Zetectic 11-24-2016 03:47 PM

Sucks that Exalt and Poodie left us. They are really good. And John and RM are shining with Holy. I remember back in Entity when RM used to say things like "12 hits" in guild chat. I was like stfu bs. Lol I did see him getting insane amount of hits registered last night with Holy. Glad that Holy, Whitebeard, Amity none of them paused against us while I was doing terrible. 😂😂
Fp4 plz whitebeard vs. holy vs. team beer vs. rinse and shine <<<before semi 🙏🏼🙏🏼

TOICH 11-24-2016 04:57 PM

The real gst champions????
 
We all know whos really gna take the win this time. Stop lying with all the fake predictions xdhttp://www.defenders.org/sites/defau...-bosen-dpc.jpg

Kuz 11-24-2016 08:09 PM

Time to turn this back on topic for a short while...

For Mixed i'm going to have to predict:

1) Holy
2) Whitebeard
3) Team BEER

Holy was always so close to winning GST but now they got T-Daddy too so they'll probably win. They should put Brett, Aguzo, T-Daddy, John and Mish on core.

Whitebeard seems stacked...getting players from various different teams they look really stronkkk.

Team BEER got dope players so they'll be good even if they are mostly drunk I still think they'll make it Far.

Red 11-24-2016 08:12 PM

Skulls team will place.

Ryu/John 11-24-2016 08:36 PM

Hey guys, this is my first post! So here are my predictions:


Mixed:
1.) Holy - Currently I think they have one of the most solid core members this GST.
2.) TEAM BEER - While I haven't practiced against this team too often, they'll have a solid starting five in late GST. My boy Fulgy's improved greatly and Dante on any team can easily make his surrounding cast better.
3.) Rinse and Repeat - One of the harder practice opponents I've faced, this team is definitely going to go far into GST. I haven't seen the complete team spar in practice, so I cannot place it above TEAM BEER, but having Skull makes this team dangerous. When Skull's got the hot hand, he can be a handful for any team to take out.

Honorable Mentions:

Immortal/SLX - Always consistently in the top 5 mixed teams. Last GST they made it into the top 3 and was the biggest threat to Alumni, however this GST they lost two crucial pieces in Poodie and Exalt.
Whitebeard - Prime's team will always make it into the discussion of top 3 teams, however this GST is different and there's a good spread of competition due to the distribution of Alumni. Whitebeard has shown promise in practice, but they have a good few guilds to compete with. Nonetheless, having Prime, Exalt, and Poodie in any team should never be underestimated.

iDevice:
1.) RD - An odd choice for first considering the other posts don't believe in RD as much. This team is tied for first in practicing this season, and I believe it has a lot of hidden potential, iDevice GSTs usually end up different from our expectations, so I believe Dark and Noss can pull one in.
2.) Silver - I'm not too sure who's coring for this team, but if Sarah, Kosiris, Mariam, Arnol are in it, I think they'll do really well. The reason being most of Silver does GST with each other consistently without switching members up much. Along with the addition of Sarah, they should be a tough team to take out, specially if you lack patience.
3.) Amity - Was hard choosing between them and Trollin, but I'll give the benefit of the doubt to 4/7 former champions. I think Abood, Alexx, Shaheen, and Sugar will do great together (if they're all core, not sure). But Alumni idev put on a clinic last GST, and the only thing that'd make this result different is if they weren't GSTing together as five.

Honorable Mentions:

Trollin - I really think TomTheTurkey is a great iDevice and I believe Haze will perform given the opportunity, can't wait to see how they turn out this GST, maybe they'll make me rethink not putting them in top 3 with their performance!
Shark Gang - Tek, Jordini, Super are former Entity members, so I'm biased here big time! But in all seriousness, I think they can perform well due to them developing a strong teamwork with one another.
Grizzly/BuildTheWall/Whatever - I had to put this team as an honorable mention because I respect Den and Jose as GSers, and I believe the overall team is on the upper-mid echelon of iDevice GST.

Goodluck to everyone ~

Thallen 11-24-2016 09:52 PM

Kuz with the strategic no-pressure prediction strategy
boi, you know damn well Skull's team is gonna place (and probably win)

Count 11-24-2016 10:14 PM

im waiting for the surprise alumni comeback

Haze 11-24-2016 10:30 PM

GLHF B)

Cxll 11-24-2016 11:44 PM

Mixed:

1st: Holy
2nd: Whitebeard
3rd: Team B33R

Idev:

1st: Grizzly
2nd: Amity
3rd: Silver

Ps. John is one of the best gsers on all of graal...him and brett are like the mixed sarah and abood...they wont be Beaten

fp4 11-24-2016 11:58 PM

The iDevice tournament has been shrunk from 64 guilds/teams to 32 guilds/teams.

Thallen 11-25-2016 12:04 AM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 743396)
The iDevice tournament has been shrunk from 64 guilds/teams to 32 guilds/teams.

Any consideration put into a single 64/32-team GST sometime in the future?

TeK 11-25-2016 12:10 AM

Holy has Brett, Thallen, John, RM, and Aguzo? That's a tough ass team to beat.

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Posted by fp4 (Post 743396)
The iDevice tournament has been shrunk from 64 guilds/teams to 32 guilds/teams.

Makes sense, there's never been >32 good iDev teams anyways, so this just takes out a useless round of noob guilds.

fp4 11-25-2016 12:24 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 743397)
Any consideration put into a single 64/32-team GST sometime in the future?

The plan is to switch to a single 64 team tournament when the guild system is eventually updated.

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Posted by TeK (Post 743400)
Makes sense, there's never been >32 good iDev teams anyways, so this just takes out a useless round of noob guilds.

Pretty much.

Also guild spar score calculations have been adjusted to rank guilds with higher participation better.

alexx 11-25-2016 12:31 AM

Apparently grizzly and that random letter guild got -3000 points for boosting! If they actually boosted (which i assume they did) nice to see admins making a stand and doing something

twilit 11-25-2016 12:34 AM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 743403)
when the guild system is eventually updated.

Before the February GST? :)

Red 11-25-2016 01:15 AM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 743396)
The iDevice tournament has been shrunk from 64 guilds/teams to 32 guilds/teams.

Announce this in the news.
It'll make guilds gs more actively in the coming days for points.

Agonee 11-25-2016 01:18 AM

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Posted by alexx (Post 743405)
Apparently grizzly and that random letter guild got -3000 points for boosting! If they actually boosted (which i assume they did) nice to see admins making a stand and doing something

a lot of guilds lost 3000 points+ Rinse and Repeats/ Shark Gang etcetc, It's really confusing, prolly a glitch.

fp4 11-25-2016 01:41 AM

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Posted by Agonee (Post 743413)
a lot of guilds lost 3000 points+ Rinse and Repeats/ Shark Gang etcetc, It's really confusing, prolly a glitch.

They need to spar more and get their rating deviation lower to increase their score or get it to where it should be.

TeK 11-25-2016 01:48 AM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 743419)
They need to spar more and get their rating deviation lower to increase their score or get it to where it should be.

Solace has 3k points (leaderboard) for the season at rank 2, so it's sparred a lot. Our rating is around 1800/75, but it only gains ~50 points per win. At that rate, it would take a long time to get from 5700 to at least 6500. How does this benefit active guilds?

Edit: 20-50 per win*

Ryu/John 11-25-2016 01:53 AM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 743419)
They need to spar more and get their rating deviation lower to increase their score or get it to where it should be.

I think the implementation of this system two days prior to GST is a horrible idea. All the teams were already expecting to enter with the points they earned throughout this week or season (in some instances). It's unfair to those teams to foil their hopes and cut their points in half. This system IS BETTER, but not now, it's too late into the GST season to make such a drastic change. I believe that if this system were to be reverted and added after GST, it'd be the best solution.

TeK 11-25-2016 01:59 AM

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Posted by Ryu/John (Post 743422)
I think the implementation of this system two days prior to GST is a horrible idea. All the teams were already expecting to enter with the points they earned throughout this week or season (in some instances). It's unfair to those teams to foil their hopes and cut their points in half. This system IS BETTER, but not now, it's too late into the GST season to make such a drastic change. I believe that if this system were to be reverted and added after GST, it'd be the best solution.

Agreed, teams like shark gang, Whitebeard, Rinse and Repeat, I think Grizzly, all got screwed by this

Aguzo 11-25-2016 02:00 AM

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Posted by Ryu/John (Post 743422)
I think the implementation of this system two days prior to GST is a horrible idea. All the teams were already expecting to enter with the points they earned throughout this week or season (in some instances). It's unfair to those teams to foil their hopes and cut their points in half. This system IS BETTER, but not now, it's too late into the GST season to make such a drastic change. I believe that if this system were to be reverted and added after GST, it'd be the best solution.

Probably done for better seeding. Pretty late into the tourney, might be a little harder for teams to boost their points. Kinda lame cause Holy got a lot of points against fairly tough teams, but it's whatever. More practice, imo.

I feel like this was a good move.

fp4 11-25-2016 02:00 AM

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Posted by Ryu/John (Post 743422)
I think the implementation of this system two days prior to GST is a horrible idea. All the teams were already expecting to enter with the points they earned throughout this week or season (in some instances). It's unfair to those teams to foil their hopes and cut their points in half. This system IS BETTER, but not now, it's too late into the GST season to make such a drastic change. I believe that if this system were to be reverted and added after GST, it'd be the best solution.

There's about 40 hours from now until the brackets are determined. I feel that's more than enough time to spar and get their scores where they need to be.

Guilds with 100+ rating deviation -- these were the only guilds affected by the change -- shouldn't be able to sit through pre-GST week and coast their way into the brackets.

David 11-25-2016 02:07 AM

doing this on thanksgiving sucks. I won't be able to get on tonight or tomorrow to guild spar and get points with my team since my family flew in from overseas...

Areo 11-25-2016 02:10 AM

Great update, will just take time for people to adjust.

Agonee 11-25-2016 02:10 AM

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Posted by TeK (Post 743423)
Agreed, teams like shark gang, Whitebeard, Rinse and Repeat, I think Grizzly, all got screwed by this

You're getting the points back easily, instead of spamming the thread, just Guild Spar and enjoy your time

Ken 11-25-2016 02:19 AM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 743425)
There's about 40 hours from now until the brackets are determined. I feel that's more than enough time to spar and get their scores where they need to be.

Guilds with 100+ rating deviation -- these were the only guilds affected by the change -- shouldn't be able to sit through pre-GST week and coast their way into the brackets.

Ur a clown for doing this 2 days before gst and on thanksgiving bro.

TeK 11-25-2016 02:27 AM

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Posted by Agonee (Post 743428)
You're getting the points back easily, instead of spamming the thread, just Guild Spar and enjoy your time

No we arent, we literally got 0 points for a win

LiA 11-25-2016 02:37 AM

From reading the last page, the new system seems decent honestly. Must suck to have -3000 points though lol.

Agonee 11-25-2016 02:40 AM

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Posted by TeK (Post 743430)
No we arent, we literally got 0 points for a win

My friends team (Almost Famous) Won like 10 Spars in a row and got from 2500 Points to 6000 Points after the 10th.

Darkk 11-25-2016 02:41 AM

Good move, stops guilds with 10 wins from getting 8000 boosted points and entering. Although, should have done this when registration opened.

FP4, is top seed/seeding still the guild with the most points in their guild profile or is it the wins on the season board? Also (RS) didn't lose points, will it need to spar again to keep its points?


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