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TGG 02-07-2017 03:51 PM

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Posted by Guri (Post 763046)
Are you making a point out of the hours? If so, the top picture is from the faceboon server, while the bottom is from iphone server.. Two different guild systems, and it was way easier to take towers on facebook server.

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

Ah, is that what it is? I just found my old iPad with 3000+ old screenshots, thought I'd post this one and just see what people had to say about it, I was a bit confused.

Foxmon 02-07-2017 03:53 PM

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Posted by TGG (Post 763050)
Ah, is that what it is? I just found my old iPad with 3000+ old screenshots, thought I'd post this one and just see what people had to say about it, I was a bit confused.

Ya, l was confused of what was cringe/funny about it you see. Lol

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

Xenice 02-07-2017 08:53 PM

I was browsing through my old emails and I found my GP application I sent years ago. Here is my GP application which I wrote when I was around 11 years old. . Lol...


Spoiler
Online Classic application:
1. What is your name in-game?- My name is theolderian. Im in a guild called Bannana inc.

2. How old are you?-I am 16 and i think i am
mature enough to handle the job.

3. What country do you live in?- I live in Great Britain but i am from america.

4. How long have you been playing Graal? Have you ever played the PC Version? If so, what is your account there?- I do play on pc and i use to work in the server "Lost kingdoms as a PR/GP. Ive been playing graal classic for 2 years now. My account is Bandol06, Community name:WOOOO

5. How long do you expect to hold this position?-I think i can hold this position for a long time and its up to you if you will want to keep me or not.

6. How often can you be online and working?-On weekdays 4hrs and weekends 7 hrs.

7. Why should we choose you?- I have many experience in Graal and graal classic and i hope i can make a significant difference when i become a member of staff by dedicating myself to this game. I will make Graal a safer place.

8. Do you have any prior knowledge of Graal RC (Remote Control)? If so, what do you know how to do?-Yes i have many experience because i used to work in a server. I know how to use the powers but in the server i didnt get all rights to use all of them.

9. Why do you wish to be part of the Graal Staff team?-I would wish i be a GP because this is what im currently hoping for a place for.

10. Do you currently hold any Staff positions on PC Graal? If so, what server, and what position do you hold? How long have you held that position?-I used to work in "Lost kingdoms" Ive held it for 2 and a half weeks.

11. What Time Zone do you live in?-My time zone is GMT.

12. Tell us about yourself. If you feel there is anything we should know, please state it here. I love to play graal i am on it non-stop and i hope i have a place in the staff position.

Bryan* 02-09-2017 05:23 AM

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http://www.graalians.com/forums/atta...1&d=1486617753

The inexperienced hiring continues...she's a GP.

Striken 02-09-2017 05:24 AM

grow up lmfao.

Thallen 02-09-2017 06:19 AM

an all-girls round of trivia

http://puu.sh/tUWgg/2e8f42da27.png

Dos 02-09-2017 01:02 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 763412)
an all-girls round of trivia

http://puu.sh/tUWgg/2e8f42da27.png

Doesn't help that they're ~13, but this hurts me

Xenice 02-09-2017 06:22 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 763405)
http://www.graalians.com/forums/atta...1&d=1486617753

The inexperienced hiring continues...she's a GP.

It's seems strange that most people with low stats are becoming GP's. It's very rare to see someone with decent stats - not like 100k PK's, but the usual like 10k kills etc.

I'm just beginning to think that these people have possibly created new accounts to try and get rid of their previous ban history, to give them a higher chance of being hired. I could be completely wrong, but this is just a hunch. I know stats aren't everything, and it doesn't take a lot of hours to learn the game - but I am seeing a strange pattern.


I think a reason as to why very inexperienced players aren't being hired is because they may have a few bans over the years. They should still be given a chance since it's about how well they do their job in the end (unless the ban was given over the past year)

Sorry for going off-topic, and I might get a lot of hate for posting this.

Foxmon 02-09-2017 07:10 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 763405)
http://www.graalians.com/forums/atta...1&d=1486617753

The inexperienced hiring continues...she's a GP.

Yes, inexperience = instant hire. pls feel my sarcasm

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Posted by Xenice (Post 763455)
It's seems strange that most people with low stats are becoming GP's. It's very rare to see someone with decent stats - not like 100k PK's, but the usual like 10k kills etc.

I'm just beginning to think that these people have possibly created new accounts to try and get rid of their previous ban history, to give them a higher chance of being hired. I could be completely wrong, but this is just a hunch. I know stats aren't everything, and it doesn't take a lot of hours to learn the game - but I am seeing a strange pattern.


I think a reason as to why very inexperienced players aren't being hired is because they may have a few bans over the years. They should still be given a chance since it's about how well they do their job in the end (unless the ban was given over the past year)

Sorry for going off-topic, and I might get a lot of hate for posting this.

Getting rid of ban history doesn't really work this way, and creating a new account wont help you getting hired. Jarace has already written about ban history and getting hired here: http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...703#post756703

Coco 02-09-2017 07:12 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 763405)
http://www.graalians.com/forums/atta...1&d=1486617753

The inexperienced hiring continues...she's a GP.

I don't get what about that pictures means she's inexperienced?

Edit: and if it's because of her spar/pks/bks I swear to god.....that reasoning is so overused and idiotic it makes me want to throw up

Xenice 02-09-2017 07:17 PM

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Posted by Guri (Post 763468)
Yes, inexperience = instant hire. pls feel my sarcasm



Yes, inexperience = instant hire. pls feel my sarcasm



Getting rid of ban history doesn't really work this way, and creating a new account wont help you getting hired. Jarace has already written about ban history and getting hired here: http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...703#post756703

Hi. I completely agree with what Jarace has written. What I meant about the new account thing is that someone may write an excellent application which ticks all the boxes. However, they might have a few bans from years ago - which would stop them from getting hired. If a person were to create a new account, they'd be more likely to get hired alongside their good application which meets all the necessary requirements since = no ban history.

Anyway, sorry for going off-topic and thanks for the reply.

David 02-09-2017 08:02 PM

stats are the only thing that prove you're involved in gameplay

I guess "online time: private" doesn't really help either

RyanB 02-09-2017 08:04 PM

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Posted by Xenice (Post 763090)
I was browsing through my old emails and I found my GP application I sent years ago. Here is my GP application which I wrote when I was around 11 years old. . Lol...


Spoiler
Online Classic application:
1. What is your name in-game?- My name is theolderian. Im in a guild called Bannana inc.

2. How old are you?-I am 16 and i think i am
mature enough to handle the job.

3. What country do you live in?- I live in Great Britain but i am from america.

4. How long have you been playing Graal? Have you ever played the PC Version? If so, what is your account there?- I do play on pc and i use to work in the server "Lost kingdoms as a PR/GP. Ive been playing graal classic for 2 years now. My account is Bandol06, Community name:WOOOO

5. How long do you expect to hold this position?-I think i can hold this position for a long time and its up to you if you will want to keep me or not.

6. How often can you be online and working?-On weekdays 4hrs and weekends 7 hrs.

7. Why should we choose you?- I have many experience in Graal and graal classic and i hope i can make a significant difference when i become a member of staff by dedicating myself to this game. I will make Graal a safer place.

8. Do you have any prior knowledge of Graal RC (Remote Control)? If so, what do you know how to do?-Yes i have many experience because i used to work in a server. I know how to use the powers but in the server i didnt get all rights to use all of them.

9. Why do you wish to be part of the Graal Staff team?-I would wish i be a GP because this is what im currently hoping for a place for.

10. Do you currently hold any Staff positions on PC Graal? If so, what server, and what position do you hold? How long have you held that position?-I used to work in "Lost kingdoms" Ive held it for 2 and a half weeks.

11. What Time Zone do you live in?-My time zone is GMT.

12. Tell us about yourself. If you feel there is anything we should know, please state it here. I love to play graal i am on it non-stop and i hope i have a place in the staff position.

seems legit
u r now n adiamniztrtor

McCullough 02-09-2017 08:40 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 763405)
http://www.graalians.com/forums/atta...1&d=1486617753

The inexperienced hiring continues...she's a GP.

This is just disgusting.

Red 02-09-2017 08:51 PM

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Posted by Coco (Post 763471)
I don't get what about that pictures means she's inexperienced?

Edit: and if it's because of her spar/pks/bks I swear to god.....that reasoning is so overused and idiotic it makes me want to throw up

Well when you look at the fact stats show how involved you are in the actual competitive gameplay aspects of graal and how understanding the person is of the games core mechanics (helps when deciding someone is cheating, lag blocking etc)

I don't see this as an idiotic reason at all it's completely reasonable. Not only do I not know her but I'm sure she wouldn't be able to tell the difference between someone like zid from a speeder.

Aguzo 02-09-2017 08:52 PM

I'm sure there are a lot of people who make new accounts to join the staff team
I'd probably make one too, in order to avoid the spam on main account

If it were a new player, still would be good in a way, since they have no favorites
Not hard for a new player to know if people are doing something wrong. Might not know all the rules, especially when it comes to sparring, but I'm sure watching over graal city wouldn't be that complicated.

Red 02-09-2017 08:53 PM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 763491)
I'm sure there are a lot of people who make new accounts to join the staff team
I'd probably make one too, in order to avoid the spam on main account

If it were a new player, still would be good in a way, since they have no favorites
Not hard for a new player to know if people are doing something wrong. Might not know all the rules, especially when it comes to sparring, but I'm sure watching over graal city wouldn't be that complicated.

See above post

Xenice 02-09-2017 08:57 PM

It seems that stats aren't that important. However, I believe they are since it indicates how much time/effort the player has put into the game. This generally shows that the player is experienced and is passionate about the game, thus they will be more willing to improve other players' game-play and theirs by moderating since they themselves are an active member of the server.

Yes, it's true that low stats doesn't always mean they're inexperienced. However, I can understand why some people are upset. Personally,I think that 25 pk's and 3100 baddy kills is quite low. This may also indicate that the GP has some gaps in her knowledge and may not be able to help when certain questions are asked. With private online time, it shows that the GP is not confident about her hours; it might be quite low (nothing wrong with that). BUT combined with 0 spars, it's just a huge indicator that they're inexperienced. I mean, do they even know what or where the battle arena is? etc

Galen Verge 02-09-2017 08:59 PM

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Posted by Xenice (Post 763493)
It seems that stats aren't that important. However, I believe they are since it indicates how much time/effort the player has put into the game. This generally shows that the player is experienced and is passionate about the game, thus they will be more willing to improve other players' game-play and theirs by moderating since they themselves are an active member of the server.

Yes, it's true that low stats doesn't always mean they're inexperienced. However, I can understand why some people are upset. Personally,I think that 25 pk's and 3100 baddy kills is quite low. This may also indicate that the GP has some gaps in her knowledge and may not be able to help when certain questions are asked. With private online time, it shows that the GP is not confident about her hours; it might be quite low (nothing wrong with that). BUT combined with 0 spars, it's just a huge indicator that they're inexperienced. I mean, do they even know what the battle arena is? etc

Just means that you aren't passionate about swinging your sword at things for hours. I have a 0-15 spar ratio but I'm a lead in the 6th best GS guild seasonally Just be cause you don't like one thing doesn't mean you suck.

Yog 02-09-2017 09:01 PM

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Posted by Galen Verge (Post 763494)
Just means that you aren't passionate about swinging your sword at things for hours.

Not much else to do on Graal tho

Coco 02-09-2017 09:43 PM

I barely ever sparred, bked, or pked if at all because it wasn't interesting to me. That doesn't mean I don't know about it or it makes me inexperienced. What questions could possibly not be answered just because someone doesn't spar/bk/pk? That stuff isn't that complex...and even if someone didn't know the answer to such questions, they could ask one of the many people around them that do and then omg wow now they know the answer to that question next time anyone asks! You don't need to participate in something to be informed about it.

Not to mention GPs are there to make sure no one is breaking rules, thus the same "Graal Police". They aren't there to answer your spar questions anyway, but to enforce the rules of spar (as well as all the other rules). It's a pretty obvious and simple problem to fix when someone is cheating while pking/bking/sparring so yes, saying someone is inexperienced because they don't have much of a spar/pk/bk record is idiotic.

Dread 02-09-2017 09:54 PM

I became a pacifist years ago #baddiesarepeopletoo

Bryan* 02-09-2017 10:26 PM

People are triggered + click bait

Striken 02-09-2017 11:12 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 763517)
It's just a prank bro.

ftfy

TeK 02-10-2017 12:36 AM

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Posted by Dos (Post 763437)
Doesn't help that they're ~13

How did you know?

Eugeen 02-10-2017 12:38 AM

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Posted by TeK (Post 763554)
How did you know?

He's one of the 13 year old girls
Just kidding, love you all

David 02-10-2017 03:43 AM

http://i.imgur.com/XNgBSDu.png

Apparently it is complex when it took 2 years for someone to reset carly for boosting and speeding despite 50 people reporting her

Striken 02-10-2017 03:48 AM

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Posted by David (Post 763612)
http://i.imgur.com/XNgBSDu.png

Apparently it is complex when it took 2 years for someone to reset carly for boosting and speeding despite 50 people reporting her

Would you rather have a gp wrongfully punish someone that was innocent?

Jarace 02-10-2017 03:52 AM

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Posted by Xenice (Post 763455)
It's seems strange that most people with low stats are becoming GP's. It's very rare to see someone with decent stats - not like 100k PK's, but the usual like 10k kills etc.

I'm just beginning to think that these people have possibly created new accounts to try and get rid of their previous ban history, to give them a higher chance of being hired. I could be completely wrong, but this is just a hunch. I know stats aren't everything, and it doesn't take a lot of hours to learn the game - but I am seeing a strange pattern.


I think a reason as to why very inexperienced players aren't being hired is because they may have a few bans over the years. They should still be given a chance since it's about how well they do their job in the end (unless the ban was given over the past year)

Sorry for going off-topic, and I might get a lot of hate for posting this.

Yeah, no. I can't go into detail, but making a new account to become a GP simply wouldn't work. I already explained the deal with bans and you've already been directed there, so I won't repeat that conversation since I'm fairly certain you've read it.

When we hired her, she asked if she could make a new account and identity so that she could continue to interact with her friends without them acting differently due to her position.

Yog 02-10-2017 04:36 AM

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Posted by Jarace (Post 763614)
When we hired her, she asked if she could make a new account and identity so that she could continue to interact with her friends without them acting differently due to her position.

I always wanted to be the Batman of Graal, but I was too thirsty for the fame to pull through.

David 02-10-2017 05:15 AM

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Posted by Striken (Post 763613)
Would you rather have a gp wrongfully punish someone that was innocent?

she wasn't innocent.

Dusty 02-10-2017 05:20 AM

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Posted by David (Post 763635)
she wasn't innocent.

Guess what, mass reports aren't proof.

David 02-10-2017 05:22 AM

Never said they were. Doesn't change the fact that she was guilty for 2+ years unpunished. Doesn't change the fact that all those reports should be looked into without having to write 3 paragraphs on what's happening in the battle arena so that something gets done.

Fulgore 02-10-2017 05:23 AM

I think the whole Carly thing is a moot point since the actions have been taken.

I do wonder what took so long to get proof, whether it was horribly inconvenient timings or something else.

Dusty 02-10-2017 05:27 AM

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Posted by David (Post 763637)
Never said they were, doesn't change the fact that she was guilty for 2+ years unpunished

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 763640)
I think the whole Carly thing is a moot point since the actions have been taken.

I do wonder what took so long to get proof, whether it was horribly inconvenient timings or something else.

People get punished when there is adequate proof. Why it took so long is probably because they were clever enough to know when and when not to break the rules and avoid getting caught. Even if they get reported a lot if a GP arrives and has no hard proof then nothing can be done. And it's for the best; reports are often abused.

Striken 02-10-2017 05:27 AM

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Posted by David (Post 763635)
she wasn't innocent.

My post wasn't directed towards her, just in general.

David 02-10-2017 05:55 AM

If GPs gave 1/10000000 of a crap about what happens in battle arena they would have known a long time ago. You're just proving to me that battle arena is not a well patrolled area of iClassic. Because people with 0-0 stats don't care about what happens there, naturally.

Also the fact that carly (or any equivalent speeder/booster) is capable of outsmarting any GP is a joke. She did it in front of literally every person in the arena.

Striken 02-10-2017 06:06 AM

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Posted by David (Post 763663)
If GPs gave 1/10000000 of a crap about what happens in battle arena they would have known a long time ago. You're just proving to me that battle arena is not a well patrolled area of iClassic. Because people with 0-0 stats don't care about what happens there, naturally.

Also the fact that carly (or any equivalent speeder/booster) is capable of outsmarting any GP is a joke. She did it in front of literally every person in the arena.

Don't tell me the arena isn't patrolled when I did get banned within 5 seconds of inappropiate behavior.

David 02-10-2017 06:08 AM

Don't tell me the arena is patrolled when it's plagued with speed and health hackers every other day?

Striken 02-10-2017 06:09 AM

Did I say it was 24/7? Keep at it bud, I like a flame war.

David 02-10-2017 06:19 AM

"Let's deviate from the actual topic so that I look like I have an idea when I got nothin"

That isn't how you have a normal discussion you baboon

was fungg

Dusty 02-10-2017 07:03 AM

Quote:

Posted by David (Post 763663)
If GPs gave 1/10000000 of a crap about what happens in battle arena they would have known a long time ago. You're just proving to me that battle arena is not a well patrolled area of iClassic. Because people with 0-0 stats don't care about what happens there, naturally.

Also the fact that carly (or any equivalent speeder/booster) is capable of outsmarting any GP is a joke. She did it in front of literally every person in the arena.

It's almost like reviewing chat logs for dealing with incidents is a lot easier than analyzing every single report about "speed hackers." Do you know how many people report others for hacking just because they lose? And when that happens you have to sit there for minutes on end waiting for them to slip up again. And that's only if it's an obvious hacker. Its the subtle ones that make it hard to detect and that takes even longer and in the end they need to decide if that person is moving juuuuust slightly faster than others for a minor advantage. With no hard evidence to back it up.

Oh, and then if they do get banned they just come back in a few minutes on a fresh account and do this for hours until they get bored. Meanwhile someone gets reported for something they say and it takes a few minutes to check their chat and see if they actually said it. Easy!

And guess who she didn't do it in front of? GPs, the only people who matter when it comes to witnessing! It doesn't matter if she got reported 50 times in an hour, that's not evidence. People file false reports all the time and sometimes they even organize their friends to all report people to try to get them in trouble.

Sorry, but hacking is the most difficult thing to deal with. The only way to truly detect is either obvious hacking(moving insanely fast or not losing health), or having the numbers to back it up. Hackers have learned that keeping their speed boost subtle and within the margin of error of detection tools keeps them safe. Or to do so sparingly so they lessen their chance of getting caught.

The fact that she was caught is proof they handle it when there is actual proof.

Raeven 02-10-2017 07:31 AM

Quote:

Posted by Galen Verge (Post 763494)
Just means that you aren't passionate about swinging your sword at things for hours. I have a 0-15 spar ratio but I'm a lead in the 6th best GS guild seasonally Just be cause you don't like one thing doesn't mean you suck.

lol

David 02-10-2017 07:44 AM

http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...8&postcount=88
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...7&postcount=99
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...&postcount=121
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...&postcount=104
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...0&postcount=18
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...0&postcount=58
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...7&postcount=62
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...0&postcount=75

and a whole lot more (a ton of it in-game), all about her cheating. When people from different guilds, social circles, activities all agree on one thing it usually means they're on to something. The fact that it took as long as it did is a joke (sorry can't think of a better word) and it only proves that admins are not in touch with the battle arena.

GPs are allowed to go invisible whenever they want, can't they? They should be able to catch these speeders/boosters veeeeeery easily with that. If they don't then it becomes a problem with activity and/or their lack of interest in patrolling the battle arena in general. Obviously they aren't going to PM GPs "hey come watch me cheat!", so it's important to hire at least some people who know sparring/pking well enough to catch this kind of stuff when it's happening. I've seen multiple health and speed hackers frequent the arena night after night doing this on the same account they were on the night before.

I'd also like to add that Sarah's video of carly boosting has been up since November.

Skyzer 02-10-2017 09:50 AM

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Posted by David (Post 763682)
dumb ****

You sure ****ing love bitching.

Dusty 02-10-2017 02:41 PM

Quote:

Posted by David (Post 763682)
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...8&postcount=88
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...7&postcount=99
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...&postcount=121
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...&postcount=104
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...0&postcount=18
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...0&postcount=58
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...7&postcount=62
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...0&postcount=75

and a whole lot more (a ton of it in-game), all about her cheating. When people from different guilds, social circles, activities all agree on one thing it usually means they're on to something. The fact that it took as long as it did is a joke (sorry can't think of a better word) and it only proves that admins are not in touch with the battle arena.

GPs are allowed to go invisible whenever they want, can't they? They should be able to catch these speeders/boosters veeeeeery easily with that. If they don't then it becomes a problem with activity and/or their lack of interest in patrolling the battle arena in general. Obviously they aren't going to PM GPs "hey come watch me cheat!", so it's important to hire at least some people who know sparring/pking well enough to catch this kind of stuff when it's happening. I've seen multiple health and speed hackers frequent the arena night after night doing this on the same account they were on the night before.

I'd also like to add that Sarah's video of carly boosting has been up since November.

Staff aren't just going to sit in Battle Arena all day waiting for hackers. Like I said, it's a lot easier to respond to other reports which just involve looking at chat then to sit and analyze spar movement. And also like I said, hiring "experienced" sparrers won't make a difference either because them feeling like the person is moving slightly faster isn't proof! Even someone being flagged for boosting by the system isn't proof enough to ban them without seeing it first hand.

The problem with videos is that there is no way for the staff to verify who the people in the video are. Again, I need to reiterate a bunch of people complaining isn't proof. It doesn't matter if they all come from different walks in life and are coming together to complain... it's not proof.

David 02-10-2017 03:40 PM

I wouldn't consider people voicing their displeasure over someone running rampant for 2 years speeding and boosting "complaining" but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this. Not saying that anyone should sit in the battle arena and do nothing but wait for hackers to come on but there has to be a healthy balance between that and never being active enough in the battle arena to see people who constantly do it for long periods of time.

Again, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this entirely cause I wholeheartedly believe that when whittled down this comes down to a GPs general interest in sparring and pking as activities.

Colin 02-10-2017 04:39 PM

May seem like complaining but more so voicing active concerns

For people involved with the spar community and who have been for years it just really sucks to see people like Carly ruin it and get away with it I understand the need for proof but almost everyone in the spar community knew what she was doing

- account isn't even hers, belongs to a player named Luvious
- videos that show her swinging and moving faster
- boosting video has 'Carly (TEAM BEER)' queing up against an alt account that instantly logs to give her a free win several times, when it stopped and the account logged out another account named "Carly" with Canadian flag logins right after
- PM'd a 14/15 year old girl where she lives and goes to school and threatened to DOX her if she didn't leave a guild, had 100% proof but was told it's okay because she didn't actually do it just threatened it (wtf????)

I understand the issue with mass reporting, but when people are capturing videos, pictures, and several forms of proof and constantly discussing it I think it's obvious they are actually doing something they shouldn't

The situation is just different depending on which perspective you come from, she ruined the main focus of a lot of peoples game play as well as other hackers because it's something they can easily get away with it seems

TeK 02-10-2017 04:59 PM

Where the Graal court system @

Bryan* 02-10-2017 05:19 PM

If it took so long, you guys are either too incompetent or ignorant to verify things in any format of evidence.


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