Posted by Crag (Post 297009)

I really don't understand how people enjoy sparring so much. The hit detection is so bad it's almost unplayable.

Posted by Thallen (Post 296889)

Posted by GotenGraal (Post 297020)

This is what happens when laggers think they're good.

Posted by Thallen (Post 297022)

http://puu.sh/20WmB

Your stupidity for taking me seriously is: Very High

Posted by Tyler (Post 297050)

Posted by Rezon (Post 297052)

I never said that there was no advantage to being able to strafe, I just said its pretty unnoticeable and nobody uses it. I also have no idea what that video is proving, you're just running around some noob.

Posted by Rezon (Post 297052)

I also don't get what you mean by 'freezing your actions'. Being able to strafe like that doesn't render you invulnerable, someone can still hit you. As well, you can't swing while moving, just like in any other direction.

Posted by Tyler (Post 297050)

You can see where I run straight up vertically a couple times and freeze my actions. You are not able to do that on an iDevice.

Posted by Rezon (Post 297160)

I'm in class right now, but perhaps sometime tomorrow i'll create a video showing the fact that straffing doesn,'t give much of an advantage.

Posted by Winter (Post 297088)

You can do this on an iPhone by pressing either the right or down arrows, and you can freeze by not pressing anything or a brief period of time.

Do you mean that the gani is different, and that makes it unfair? Would you rather the "idle" gani be used in the event of two or more arrow keys being pressed? That would require the player to stop and continue moving over and over as it is very easy to press more than one key when you aren't thinking about it. On the bright side, an iPhone does not have this problem, as one cardinal direction cannot be pressed at the same time as another. Therefore, the player seamlessly changes direction and virtually covers more distance over a period of time than a PC player would.

In this case, techniques are different, as some things are possible on PC that aren't on iPhone, and some are possible on iPhone that aren't on PC. In my opinion, the general iPhone advantages tend to point towards offensive movement and evasion... But that's just my experience.

Posted by Blueh (Post 296794)

Posted by MrSimons (Post 296780)

Maybe just maybe, PC players are better at sparring because most of them have been at it before iPhone servers even existed.

Posted by David (Post 296862)

holy crap you're really dumb

Posted by Remorse (Post 296866)

you're making us iDevice players look bad

Posted by Thallen (Post 296889)

What you're doing with your last statement is creating rules to the game that exist only in your mind. You didn't make the game. You don't make the rules. No one has to adhere to this fantasy land that you've conjured up in your mind where your opinion regulates what is and isn't fair in the game.

Anything the game allows is completely fair as long as it is consistent to all of the players. Every single player is allowed to access the game and spar by PC, and every single player is allowed to access the game and spar by iDevice.

It would be unfair if the staff only allowed certain players to play by PC.
Anyway, you don't refuse to spar on PC out of the goodness of your heart and to make it "fair," you refuse to spar on PC because you suck at, it or you don't have a PC, or you just don't want to win. Those are the only three reasons. Just be serious.

iDevice players (or at least you) cry that PC players have an advantage, and PC players can counter that by saying that you are disadvantaged. Does it make more sense for me to cripple myself and be a worse player (by your theory), or does it make more sense for you to bring yourself up the competitive level and play on the device that you claim has the advantage?

So, I'll say it again: If you truly believe that the PC is an advantaged device, you can either:

1. Play by PC
2. Improve as an iDevice sparrer
3. Continue crying

Your choice does not affect me at all and I will continue winning because I am a smarter and better player than you. I am raising my hands in victory right now at the thought of how much smarter and better I am than you. I feel like a superior human, far beyond your level of understanding, intelligence, and competitiveness. Defeating you in this conversation was as effortless as it'd be to defeat you in a spar. You are a terrible internet gaming peon who will never come close to me and I am disgusted that we even play the same game.

Posted by Rufus (Post 296921)

As someone who has been active on both, I don't think there's any real debate that sparring on Facebook is easier than sparring on an iDevice. It just is, and the amount of people that switched from poor iDevice sparrers to somewhat average Facebook sparrers is a good example of this. People suddenly having an easier ride for not using iDevices has created an iDevice elitism. It is understandable, given that this version originated as an iPhone game and still consists of a 90% iPhone playerbase -- there's only ever 100~ Facebook players online.

Posted by Rufus (Post 296921)

Thallen is correct though, but I don't think most people are understanding it. If you hold this belief that Facebook is easier, and own a PC which most people do, then the only thing that is stopping you from using it is yourself. Your own pride, I guess. It is a platform that is open to everyone and it is an intended part of the game. Things like the leaderboards are divided up so that skill is not being measured between the platforms. I don't understand what the problem is, nor why arguments on technicalities are being attempted. You're not forced to spar each other and you're only limited to what devices you own and your attitudes towards them.

The game is not intended for people on iDevices alone anymore. I don't like it much either, and I am known for sparring on Facebook, but that's just how it is.

Posted by Talon (Post 297007)

I laughed way too hard at this.

Posted by Winter (Post 297088)

You can do this on an iPhone by pressing either the right or down arrows, and you can freeze by not pressing anything or a brief period of time.

Do you mean that the gani is different, and that makes it unfair? Would you rather the "idle" gani be used in the event of two or more arrow keys being pressed? That would require the player to stop and continue moving over and over as it is very easy to press more than one key when you aren't thinking about it. On the bright side, an iPhone does not have this problem, as one cardinal direction cannot be pressed at the same time as another. Therefore, the player seamlessly changes direction and virtually covers more distance over a period of time than a PC player would.

In this case, techniques are different, as some things are possible on PC that aren't on iPhone, and some are possible on iPhone that aren't on PC. In my opinion, the general iPhone advantages tend to point towards offensive movement and evasion... But that's just my experience.

Posted by Winter (Post 293919)

(in all seriousness, this battle has been fought over and over again.. best to drop it sooner, you won't get anywhere)