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Santa Claus 03-23-2013 04:20 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 316585)
I understand that opinion, because you're a member of a guild that has been consistently on the advantageous end of guilds having admins.

The gulids i did join had staff but I didn't join it for that reason. I joined because I had friends in it. I was invited to Elly's guild and even to Magic since I acted as I wasn't stupid or a admin freak.
We didn't recruit any dik head that was ape **** to staff if you acted like a dumb ass we will kick you.
I never had staff to do tower checking for me or even in Cruxis we didn't use the up side of getting staff to scout towers.
We towered becasue we enjoyed it.
If staff do abuse their power yes they should be fired but first get a real case not just going in blind. I didn't go blind when that ass hat Asdf abused his powers along two other lag/hackers to get my towers. I had the case and made sure he would slip up and brought it up. YOu just have staff at the tower and banning people for the right reason.

Staff can be in towers if they want since it is their part to check and make sure everything is fine. You are going in blind.

twilit 03-23-2013 04:32 AM

oh Santa, thank you for showing up, i forgot to mention that CXE had like a dozen admins 0-1000 too. (also forgot Cruxis orig was 1st admin 1k..). So after CXE 1k THEN admins in tower guild was no longer a problem.

GotenGraal 03-23-2013 05:03 AM

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Posted by AimeeAdelphos (Post 316618)
Neo and Lulu help your guild more than Ast is on Vintage tag, and it's all fair play.

1. No that's not true lol
2. Neo is not a leader in my guild
3. Aster admin leader, so is Envy, and whether you notice it or not you guys do get recruits because of this.

Santa Claus 03-23-2013 05:09 AM

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Posted by twilit (Post 316606)
blablabla
tl;dr'd
sensed another flame war and skipped it

Yes, admin guilds were a huge problem in 2011. Magic, first 1k admin guild, had literally 10 graal police and NYN would scout and attack with staff account on. That summer, nearly every fort was controlled by an admin guild...

But this really is not a problem anymore. Vintage is the only tower guild with graal police leaders currently. Other than that and US, ive never seen other admins participate in guild activities.

cruxis was first cough cough i mean meow but yeah they were bad at the start.
People told me stories of Slim warping people out the tower for his guild to take it and many other stories of staff members abusing the system. I do remember staff were allowed to take towers with their staff account but only if they are on no cheats or anything that got them the upper hand but they changed that since that just shows a bad image to other staff members and most people would bich about it.

To me vintage is the only staff ran guild other ones aren't really the tower taking guilds but aster was a guild leader before staff member so i am sure and am sure that she wouldn't let the power get to her since she has had trouble with other admin gulds.

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 316635)
1. No that's not true lol
2. Neo is not a leader in my guild
3. Aster admin leader, so is Envy, and whether you notice it or not you guys do get recruits because of this.


Envy is just a member. isn't a leader.

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Posted by twilit (Post 316626)
oh Santa, thank you for showing up, i forgot to mention that CXE had like a dozen admins 0-1000 too. (also forgot Cruxis orig was 1st admin 1k..). So after CXE 1k THEN admins in tower guild was no longer a problem.

what Problem did CxE do?

We were treated as well as any other guild we were warned and I even helped rebellious when terry got your hours reset even tho people told me not to help yall. but i showed my support.

Thallen 03-23-2013 05:35 AM

Whatever happens, don't turn this into some lame guild vs. guild contest. That's not what I was doing or trying to do. Vintage was singled out because it's the most glaring example of this happening.

This isn't supposed to be a flame thread, not pointing fingers and saying "DURRR, BUT YOU HAVE AN ADMIN, TOO," I really just want to see the offending admins taken care of and for it to never happen again in the future. It'd benefit pretty much everyone.

Ph8 03-23-2013 05:38 AM

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Posted by AimeeAdelphos (Post 316574)
You clearly just don't like getting attacked or loosing...

No. Bad.
http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7735

Also this thread sorta making me want to try towering out again, though it sounds like most of them still have major blocking/laming issues.

HON3Y BADG3R 03-23-2013 07:10 AM

Animee you are defending a lost cause. It's a spoil system! If you are an admin, you get recruits easier! Players only care about rubbing up to the staff by being SO loyal.
If I was an admin, my guild would be full and taking towers right now.

And it isn't just in towers! SIOBHY told a player that he was an admin but she couldn't record how interview!

Most of these admins are never helpful too! I had to talk to 5 admins once because some didn't know the answer or they were "working" (towering)

I'm sorry but the gp needs to be remade. A lot are immature assholes

For example look at this quote from the summer (I still agree with him though.) it's just rude!

Ryan 03-23-2013 07:13 AM

Everyone at sards needs to toughen up

Platinum 03-23-2013 10:22 AM

Admins are like the god of graal. If you met god would you rub up to him?
I predict yes.

Rezon 03-23-2013 05:01 PM

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Posted by Platinum (Post 316728)
Admins are like the god of graal. If you met god would you rub up to him?
I predict yes.

Terrible analogy....

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Posted by Ph8 (Post 316645)
No. Bad.
http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7735

Also this thread sorta making me want to try towering out again, though it sounds like most of them still have major blocking/laming issues.

ph8 needs to redesign all of the iClassic towers and make them more like CW.

Blueh 03-23-2013 05:03 PM

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Posted by Rezon (Post 316852)
Terrible analogy....



ph8 needs to redesign all of the iClassic towers and make them more like CW.

CW?

Rezon 03-23-2013 05:07 PM

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Posted by Blueh (Post 316856)
CW?

Castle Wars. CW used to be extremely **** with the most broken layout (similar to sardon's actually, long narrow tunnels, chokepoints) and he redesigned it to have various modes. There's a 3 heart, 7 heart and 13 heart mode, with a large and small map. To win CW, your guild most hold the fort for 30 minutes and after this time, there is a 5 minute cool down period. After that, everyone is warped out and you can fight for the fort again. There are various power-ups scattered around the level in the form of crystals. They give you a random power-up when picked up (Summon guards, nukeshot, etc.)

Really terrible explanation, but this would probably solve all the problems iClassic has with towers. The main problem with them, in my opinion, is the fact that in some towers, the defender has such a gigantic advantage. Some spawns are completely ******ed, especially sardons. To fix this stalemate, everyone should be warped out after the 30 minutes and guilds can fight over the tower once again.

Blueh 03-23-2013 05:29 PM

So like the fort resets back to default after a period of time giving every guild an opportunity to reclaim/take over the fort? Sounds interesting. But I think the power up ability/upgrade defense thing is a little too Balloon Battle or whatever.

I had this idea where the tower would have separate spawn points in the form of flags. These flags would be conquerable like the normal flags, but with less health. Each flag acts as a spawn point. Any guild is able to capture a spawn point, including attackers. However, you may capture as many spawn points as you like, but it's the main flag that really matters. Why would this be useful? Because it adds more stratiegics into towering. So say an attacking guild captures a spawn point. They no longer are warped out when they die or have to spend time regrouping. They can just pick up from there. The spawn points also work with the defending guild. They will be spawned randomly to any of the flags they own. Now defenders won't always be clattering over the door 24/7 because they have other flags to look after as well. If a guild attacking or defending has no spawn points, they will spawn outside the tower as normal. Having them will make conquering or defending much easier for the guild, and there wouldn't be too big of a "blocking" issue because attackers and defenders will be spread out over the tower.

Dusty 03-23-2013 05:51 PM

That hidden <chat was to lengthy> admin was probably me.

Arann 03-23-2013 10:32 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 316872)
That hidden <chat was to lengthy> admin was probably me.

You sure? Cause this was right after Envy 'magically disappeared' from attacking us for like an hour straight.


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