Graalians - Trade Tables

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Posted by doodleman171 (Post 483241)

As long as if there is an "open market" I'm ok, but We need some more planets and quests. Squad bases which involve boarding the other's ship and fighting through it's various passageways, capturing spawn points as you progress, and reaching the core(flag). New species and customizeable ships. Have the space map use similar concept to valkoria's map. :0 Bringing concepts from the past and improving upon them, but also introducing new content as well. "Zone Super Smash" is what I hope will come. :3

^^^
I would love to see Choros and Iricia be given their own themed shops and signature activities, and then maybe given a 'big base' like Gemini.

I dislike the trade tables. Why you might ask?

- Zone needs more things that are unique, and doesn't copy from iEra. The forum system, great! Bomb spar, great! Mech spar, great! Stop looking to iEra. Develop your own unique content like the forum system.

- iZone revolves around trade. iZone is still a great server, but with a low player count, I see a lot of sparrers and PKers at the trade tables. With the low playercount, you can't excpect much people doing other things.

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Posted by iMask (Post 483330)

I dislike the trade tables. Why you might ask?

- Zone needs more things that are unique, and doesn't copy from iEra. The forum system, great! Bomb spar, great! Mech spar, great! Stop looking to iEra. Develop your own unique content like the forum system.

Technically bomb spar isn't even iZone's content. Like I stated before, it's the exact same thing as Bomberman or whatever it was called when we still had that minigame server up. The server had a lot of games like poker, Bombermad (I think it was called Bombermad) and the classics like chess.

Just saiyan is all.

Everyone asks for unique gameplay

->gets a level pack

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 483331)

Technically bomb spar isn't even iZone's content. Like I stated before, it's the exact same thing as Bomberman or whatever it was called when we still had that minigame server up. The server had a lot of games like poker, Bombermad (I think it was called Bombermad) and the classics like chess.

Just saiyan is all.

lol wasn't your argument about zone being like the other servers? Bomb spar is original content in any way you look at it. Its new to graal and it is fun. Even if some content is ripped it doesn't matter sometimes because it's fun.

They have hat trading

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 483239)

Not much different

i thought we were comparing iera to iZone? not iZone to graal, because 90% of that list you made is comparing to all graal games, not just iera

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A smart player dominates a dumb player with "skill" Funny
Tactics are way more crucial to zone than era Very little difference in tactics aside from being able to shoot on an angle
do you even base m8? Tactics in era were not needed as much due to the low T2K, unlike zone with a very high T2K compared to era
Dofferent tactics Same as above
Guns behave different and can use these to your advantage Guns behave all the same. Not much variety or use for niche
say wot now? do you even graal bro? Because as i era and a zone veteran, they act completely different
Ammo system isnt the same as eras Minor differences but every game with guns needs an ammo system. This is neutral
Grenade launchers actually lob grenades 360 shooting with a grenade launche gives more directions
Bikes that shoot Okay, assuming Era doesn't have a helicopter, Zone gets this
Not horrid p2w like era, zone still is p2w though P2W is P2W
Classes Zone gets this
Gang system completly different Gang system is pretty similar to every other iServer. Make gang, get time, orgasm over hats.
its different, i should say that its different how to gain hours. you can get hours by just sitting and wrecking in showdown, planets have 5 bases all with 40 second time given, classic base in gemini, conquest is a king of hill, spring is ******ed, a CTF game, and did i forget to mention in spring and ctf other people can join your squad without actually joining it? No other iOS server does that.
Bases are not close quarters dominate but provide a variaty of ranges Bases are bases in every server. Neutral
250 ammo (makes a massive difference) This is negligible
u wot m8? you neglect the fact that you only get 250 shots, with a ammo depletion bug, so you run out of ammo very fast so your load outs will change, example i carry a chain gun as my secondary if my photon runs out of ammo (happens often since zone has a high b2k).
Grenades default grab button I fail to see how this is good
double edged sword. Its good in the fact that you don't need to take up a slot used for say a secondary weapon or melee, but its just plain out tedious when trying to grab things.
Hotkeys are automatic and free Hotkeys are hotkeys. Granted free is good, all games have hotkeys.
Guns are used in zone way more than melees Melees in Zone are utter trash. They provide no bonus aside from the attack speed of a heroin junky with massive damage. Some might deflect bullets, but that's it.
Bomb spar Event, also taken from the old mini game server and characters replaced with bots.
Graphics Different texture for the same game
Achivements rewards system different (it gives the user the amount of zc it says it does and isnt based off points like era) Achievements give rewards. This is neutral
im saying how it rewards is different. Era goes by points, every 5 points = 1 ec. In zone though, you get a set amount of zc for the value of that achievement completed.

you people kill my ****ing brain cells by your thoughtless posts

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Posted by fsh (Post 483392)

you people kill my ****ing brain cells by your thoughtless posts

what the **** did this post transform into, jabba the hut's bedroom?

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Posted by Meatman204 (Post 483395)

what the **** did this post transform into, jabba the hut's bedroom?

http://i.imgur.com/nwUGrZW.gif
By ayfeu ^

Heads/Bodies and shields (will be released for trading) are going to be tradeable on april 1st next year. I am staff and can confirm this.

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Posted by Hadi (Post 483453)

Heads/Bodies and shields (will be released for trading) are going to be tradeable on april 1st next year. I am staff and can confirm this.

^^^

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Posted by Hadi (Post 483355)

I just felt like pointing it.

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 483378)

i thought we were comparing iera to iZone? not iZone to graal, because 90% of that list you made is comparing to all graal games, not just iera

Because half a good portion of the stuff listed IS part of damn-near every other server. Most things exclusive to iEra have already been moved to Zera as well and you can't give me bull**** about Zera being different from iEra because of events when events are part of every server.

You still need tactics in Era. Basing is basing.

The only difference between Era and Zera guns are that you have omni-directional firing, as opposed to fixed directions. Both have low health which causes trouble with balancing, meaning that most guns will only have a /slight/ difference in damage, speed or spread, with very little niche roles to fill.

You're still basing for the same exact thing. Same system, same rewards and same determination to hit a the same goal. The only difference here is that there are more places to accumulate time, so I'll give you that.

You can't really count a bug as being intentional and shouldn't be used as leverage. Ammo runs out fairly quickly if you decide to waste it quickly. Also, I'm pretty sure the bug is to do with trying to compensate for when your clip isn't full. Since it has no reserves (Oh look at that, normal Zone exclusive stuff, yay!) it just auto-reloads, causing you to waste ammo. So now that I think about it, it's not really a bug.

Grenades I'll give you some points then.

Eh, for achievements I'll give half.

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Posted by Stratus (Post 483238)

Actually that's wrong. Stefan is on the stafflist and he wants a second iEra. I remember him forcing the LATs (including myself) to make a Post-Aypocalyptic iEra. Then he called the map off like a idiot at the last minute.

That was around the time I was hired, a year ago...? We have no such plans and he isn't even involved in any development projects at this point.

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 483239)

Still not much.

If you are not going to count any of the stuff I posted, such as many of the stuff I posted (most of the things you disregarded as events are actual spars that add to your rating and will soon allow you to receive prizes.) Then I might as well disregard that dolls, a few (2?) jobs, trading and maybe a few items are much taken from era. I mean tbh if you are gonna say events dont matter then you really can't complain that we are taking stuff from era, when that is the bulk of the stuff we have received from other servers.

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Posted by Vendetta (Post 483285)

It's a hell of a lot easier to list differences than similarities when comparing any server with another. I don't dislike trading, it doesn't bother me that much. It's just the fact that so many ideas and features from iEra are being used on iZone, one or two would be fine but there's a lot more than that.

Here is an actual list of things taken specifically from iEra. Keep in mind this is stuff that had been given directly from Era. Nothing else in the game is taken from Era.

Killstreak Level
Trading House
Doll System
Spare Part Collection
Hoverboards (If I recall correctly this has been on iZone since its release)
Various Icons (Most of which have been/are being replaced)
Some older vanity items
6 events (a few of which are just races)
Achievements
Zone Coins (EC)

If you think any of that stuff carries the server, and isn't just excess content (some of which isn't even content and was just dumped onto the server by Stefan) then I feel bad for you, because you obviously haven't properly played the server and aren't looking for anything to enjoy, just stuff to complain about.