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iHot 07-31-2014 09:44 PM

Israel ground war on Gaza begins + MH17 shutdown over Ukraine
 
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Posted by lord greg (Post 495162)
They don't have full control though, Israel has proven it has the most control over the region with its ability to strike at will. Hamas is a group of terrorists, nothing more. They have no ability to lead the area only wage a war of attrition.





Have you actually seen the reports from people like the BBC? The BBC I know for a fact has a balanced view because they give the facts and an unbiased stand point apart from certain articles which are the journalists opinions.


Israel has power over airspace, fishing, blockade etc. but politically everyone there hates them. Hamas from a political standpoint controls Gaza. Hamas is a legitimate political party that's just as crazy as the Republicans and Democrats here in America. They're recognized by Russia, China, Syria, Norway etc.

BBC and all other major news stations don't mention the years of occupation and struggle the Palestinians have lived through. Their reports are completely devoid of context or background with the intent of tricking the masses into thinking Israel is the victims and the people of Gaza are terrorists.

Kendama 07-31-2014 10:16 PM

What parents would send their children to schools during a time like this over there? I would start digging and building any type of shelter I can create for my family so they would all have some sort of preparations for bombs

MementoJoker 07-31-2014 10:32 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 495104)
Meh Fatah is corrupt and Abbas bends over for the US and Israel a lot and it's gotten him nowhere. I also truly believe that this war will never be solved diplomatically because Israel's leadership doesn't want peace. What makes me sad is that the people of Palestine will never get justice. The people of Gaza never will. Even if Hamas never existed.
Now the Pentagon has confirmed they are arming Israel with munitions to kill more children while at the same time calling for a ceasefire. What's the point in bending your knee to an occupier and wait for your death? The people of Gaza would rather die fighting than wait for their death. Israel is an apartheid state and just as much of terrorists as Hamas is (yes Hamas has some terroristic parts of it I just support their fight for Palestinian freedom).

Oh and about the 'Children of Gaza' thing it's sad. Really sad. But the problem is what are these kids supposed to do with their education? In a place with a 40% unemployment rate, crippling blockade and has the title of "Worlds Largest Open Air Prison" you can't do much with any education.

Why should Israel specifically target children and women, that's just bad PR.
Hamas don't want a free Palestine where Muslims and Christians can live together.
They want to impose Islamic law and one the reason they were created in the first place was to fight Israel and they won't rest until they destroy it.
And if Fatah is corrupt then why are you supporting a far more corrupt organization.
Also I doubt that the US are arming Israel to kill children.
There will never ever be a Palestinian country if Hamas exists as it will just be taken over by Hamas (which already happened in the Gaza parliament)

Ghettoicedtea 08-01-2014 12:19 AM

isreal are a bunch of phaggots who spam killstreaks and Hamas are a bunch of camping assholes
http://www.neckbeard-news.com/2014/0...on-israel.html

Mejico Josh 08-01-2014 12:32 AM

Wait did someone say that the BBC are reliable? What a load of tosh

iHot 08-01-2014 01:22 AM

Israel ground war on Gaza begins + MH17 shutdown over Ukraine
 
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Posted by MementoJoker (Post 495176)
Why should Israel specifically target children and women, that's just bad PR.
Hamas don't want a free Palestine where Muslims and Christians can live together.
They want to impose Islamic law and one the reason they were created in the first place was to fight Israel and they won't rest until they destroy it.
And if Fatah is corrupt then why are you supporting a far more corrupt organization.
Also I doubt that the US are arming Israel to kill children.
There will never ever be a Palestinian country if Hamas exists as it will just be taken over by Hamas (which already happened in the Gaza parliament)


Ok ok I've been holding this back but I'm going to say it.

I believe that Hamas was created by Israel's Zionist regime as a deterrent to the West Bank's Fatah. The two parties clashed until Hamas eventually took over Gaza much to Israel's happiness. However now that they've reconciled Israel has launched an offensive in Gaza not to protect it's civilians but to undermine the unity government and peace process.

Oh yeah they're supplying Israel with munitions by the way
http://www.newsweek.com/us-gives-isr...fensive-262221

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 495200)
isreal are a bunch of phaggots who spam killstreaks and Hamas are a bunch of camping assholes
http://www.neckbeard-news.com/2014/0...on-israel.html

Sounds like a good idea lol

Cookie Xanadu 08-01-2014 02:16 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 495200)
isreal are a bunch of phaggots who spam killstreaks and Hamas are a bunch of camping assholes
http://www.neckbeard-news.com/2014/0...on-israel.html

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This is beautiful...

This is what it will turn into
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEWT0Anrc7k

Colin 08-01-2014 03:03 AM

A 72 hour cease fire agreement has been reached.

iHot 08-01-2014 04:27 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 495251)
A 72 hour cease fire agreement has been reached.


Which means Israelis going to malls and beaches and Palestinians digging up dead bodies...

Now a quote from our old pal Benjamin Netanyahu the current PM of the apartheid state of Israel!
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/01/na7y9ada.jpg
Boy Benjamin! It's funny because you're doing the same thing right now!!

http://youtu.be/vsDyxnJxbkc

http://youtu.be/IynADeLxfCU

MementoJoker 08-01-2014 12:18 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 495227)
Ok ok I've been holding this back but I'm going to say it.

I believe that Hamas was created by Israel's Zionist regime as a deterrent to the West Bank's Fatah. The two parties clashed until Hamas eventually took over Gaza much to Israel's happiness. However now that they've reconciled Israel has launched an offensive in Gaza not to protect it's civilians but to undermine the unity government and peace process.

Oh yeah they're supplying Israel with munitions by the way
http://www.newsweek.com/us-gives-isr...fensive-262221

I know that they're supplying them, they have an agreement to do so, but why is this a bad thing?
Also I disagree with how you believe Hamas has been founded, it's a bit far fetched

iHot 08-01-2014 06:37 PM

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Posted by MementoJoker (Post 495310)
I know that they're supplying them, they have an agreement to do so, but why is this a bad thing?

Also I disagree with how you believe Hamas has been founded, it's a bit far fetched

It's bad because it means more dead kids.
I don't think it's as far fetched as it really seems. I don't think the current government of Israel wants peace.

lord greg 08-01-2014 06:47 PM

Now an Israeli soldier has been taken captive. This is pretty bad news for the people of Gaza. It will almost certainly lead to an escalation in the conflict.

iHot 08-01-2014 09:47 PM

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Posted by lord greg (Post 495362)
Now an Israeli soldier has been taken captive. This is pretty bad news for the people of Gaza. It will almost certainly lead to an escalation in the conflict.

They celebrate when this happens. Good news for Hamas. Israel values the lives of Jews over the lives of anyone else. So they'll be willing to free a lot of prisoners.

lord greg 08-01-2014 09:49 PM

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Posted by iHot (Post 495388)
They celebrate when this happens. Good news for Hamas. Israel values the lives of Jews over the lives of anyone else. So they'll be willing to free a lot of prisoners.

In the past yes, I believe they released around 1000 prisoners a few years ago to secure the release of 1 Israeli soldier. But with extensive military action being taken already a rescue operation may be attempted. That may be special forces or just another push with troops on the ground.

Crono 08-01-2014 10:25 PM

Hamas are getting their own people killed. Both sides are disgusting ******s.


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