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Aguzo 07-23-2015 09:30 AM

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Posted by Droid (Post 595661)
Ben I think you got their attention; I know you have good intentions.

No, he can use the "Graal doesn't upgrade servers, so I was protesting by ddosing" as an excuse all he wants. This is not the correct way to approach the situation of the server. If Toonslab gives in to this, then that would show that they have no spine. That is terrible, and other people will end up taking advantage of that.

Like I said, the only thing ben does is blackmail people. No good intentions can come from that.

Edit: That might not even be ben, could just be a fake account.

Bengraal 07-23-2015 09:33 AM

That's a lie, rumors spread around.

Natso 07-23-2015 09:39 AM

It's not a lie I've spoken hands first by people that you have blackmailed

Red 07-23-2015 09:42 AM

Just saying, that forum account name is the same as bens Skype name so this is definently him.

Bengraal 07-23-2015 09:43 AM

I did quote what he told me, I quote "The servers are going to be down, at a date." My message did get removed. This is my point of view Aguzo is one of those persons that is dumb and arrogant, for one "All our internet providers are down"? For two, stop spreading rumors that don't even exist, For three take a break from graal, I am helping you out here. Now I have things to sort out, without idiots like you spreading false rumors. You can send out rumors all you want. Or even make a "Hate campaign" about me, I just laugh when people don't understand I am doing it for the best. Graal makes quite a bit of money of idiots buying gralats packs, "We have lost up to 40K USD and continue loosing". I doubt that very much, even stefan can make stuff up and claim that.

Red 07-23-2015 09:47 AM

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Posted by Bengraal (Post 595671)
I did quote what he told me, I quote "The servers are going to be down, at a date." My message did get removed. This is my point of view Aguzo is one of those persons that is dumb and arrogant, for one "All our internet providers are down"? For two, stop spreading rumors that don't even exist, For three take a break from graal, I am helping you out here. Now I have things to sort out, without idiots like you spreading false rumors. You can send out rumors all you want. Or even make a "Hate campaign" about me, I just laugh when people don't understand I am doing it for the best. Graal makes quite a bit of money of idiots buying gralats packs, "We have lost up to 40K USD and continue loosing". I doubt that very much, even stefan can make stuff up and claim that.

Please Ben :/ just stop already it'd be a bad thing to be arrested over something silly like graal save yourself the trouble and stop while you can, there are thousands of people waiting to play there favourite game and you're ruining it for them.

Aguzo 07-23-2015 09:49 AM

Not a lie, if logs are kept back up to at least march, then the evidence might be in there.
If not, then definetely on skype chat logs.

Let's see ben so far has:

18 U.S.C. §1951 (extortion that affects commerce) (Restricting gralat pack purchases, which might count towards Apple as well)
18 U.S.C. §876 (mailing threatening communications) (harassing, and blackmailing players in-game, and through skype)
18 U.S.C. §877 (mailing threatening communication from a foreign country)
18 U.S.C. §1030 (maybe)
18 U.S.C. §1029 (fraud and related activity in connection with access devices) (apparently he was getting people's phone numbers. He could be the person who keeps calling my house, and I looked up the number and it was a fake "pay the money you owe now" bank)
18 U.S.C. §3121 et seq. (recording of dialing, routing, addressing, and signaling information) (if that includes phone numbers, and possibly addresses)

Bengraal 07-23-2015 09:49 AM

Once a attack is completed, there is no turning back. Graal classic is nulled for now. It will be back up later.

Droid 07-23-2015 09:52 AM

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Posted by Bengraal (Post 595674)
Once a attack is completed, there is no turning back. Graal classic is nulled for now. It will be back up later.

When is later?

Bengraal 07-23-2015 09:54 AM

When they traced the attacker, when stuff is resolved. From now Era is still up.

Natso 07-23-2015 09:54 AM

" take a break from graal " that's hypocritical since you spend literally all day on it ddos people , you're not doing this for the benefit of no one however if you truly think you are helping people and that this is the right form to do it then you truly are poorly educated.

No ones is " making false rumours " you know that very well for your self so quit lying to your self , at this point you have nothing to lose but you keep feeding your ego as if this will get you any positive rep , people are not numb bed so it's about time you actually reflect on what you're doing not only from your pint of view but from others aswell so you can evaluate how you're current actions are not the correct way to solve this issue of server lag

Bengraal 07-23-2015 09:57 AM

Your opinions are your opinions, although saying that kind of stuff, Is not going to change anything, don't you agree?

Droid 07-23-2015 09:57 AM

I just want to get on and play, it's more for the people I k ow on this game now, rather than the game itself when it comes down to it.

Aguzo 07-23-2015 10:00 AM

He is saying they are rumors for convenience, because if he did in fact (which he did) do other things besides just "protest by attacking the server, because I am a 'hero', and wanted there to be change", then he would have more serious charges. He did do other illegal things that involve the safety and privacy of others, as well as the loss of potential consumers for a company.

MBK 07-23-2015 10:04 AM

I don't think Ben did it this time.He did it a couple of time to Classic before and it didn't went down for this long.


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