Theres a ton of us, the pc players only have to click a tab to get back over here so they can argue against something they know is true more frequently. If you mean that having 8 directions to choose from is more control then12 then youre obviously just wrong lol.

TL;DR for the entire thread:

Much salt, nothing worth reading

Haters gon hate. The bigger the thread more opportunity for developers to take notice in whats cared about. No?

The salt just adds a lil flavor ;)

They won't change it because it isn't the problem

I disagree, that's some good reading.

Your main argument literally has the word guild in it.. Change needs to happen to single independant sparring. It is clearly a problem, i will literally draw it out for those who dont get it.

People aren't single sparring because the iDevice room was removed LMAO, an iDevice room isn't going to solve anything

you act like you know the whole spar community when no one even knew who you were until you posted this thread (even several people who actually did play PC graal before iClassic)

and since you selectively read:
His post about NGS doesn't mean guild-sparring, he means players single sparring to earn guild points, which is a reason for people to single spar and will revive it because of competition

people just aren't sparring because most are bored of it now, but all 4 rooms are still fairly active, lack of incentive competition is the issue, and an iDevice only room isn't much competition judging by how much you guys are bothered by facing PC sparrers or anyone you think might be better, just accept the fact you universally aren't good at spar regardless of what device you face and get good at sparring either

Anyone who read this thread that matters knows who i am. and you are? Also why do you continually resort to some type of 'why are you scared' tactic. When obviously this argument has been about 8 directions of movement vs. the 12 pc's have. Still about choice. So what if its not the biggest difference in the arena. Its still.. fair? Lol.

IF ANYTHING, yall are scared of having to face eachother instead of us. Right?

When someone gives me a valid link to anything NGS ill take your word for it. Its called new guild systems thats about what i know.

literally who are you.

also, the pc vs idev argument died long ago. there is no major differences no one abuses any "advantages" just because we can strafe does not mean its all of a sudden a huge and insanely powerful thing. NO ONE strafes every spar. There is no point because its slow and predictable.


Also, we can spar each other in streak rooms, whats the difference maybe you just suck, looking for an excuse for losing perhaps?

Not as if PC Sparrers guild spar against one another and meet at guild houses to spar and practice with each other
"Scared of us" lmao what a joke

Here just bold this part anyone who matters. If you dont know me, youre not one of those people. Secondly it is a decent advantage, similar to the difference between a sega genisis and ps4 controller. Theres just more options for striking in general. Lastly, lets spar rn? I have no problem winning or losing. Its actually fun for me most of the time. Would just like another option like much of the active device sparring community or whats left of it. No still not getting it?

Right, so you can hide the shame on your precious ratio. Also thanks for quoting something i just.. Never said lol. But congratulations on post #100!

Side note for anyone wondering, i was already a decent pc player. By my experience it was blatintly obvious that device was more difficult. Mainly cuz i couldnt 1.<^> 2.<v> 3.v>^ 4.v<^. Personally, i dont belive anything easy to get is worth having.

Most of all i will not apologize for trying to give people a reason to play the game on the device it was intended for.

Short term memory loss??
Look two posts above the post, in which I quoted you.
And also its to not spar actually good sparrers and not noobs/delayers

Ya i said pc's scared of pc's not devices, just about the opposing to what you quoted. Read it again maybe?

Specifically..
So with every argument now running in circles, looks like theres no good reason to not have these rooms? Pc's generally afraid to ruin score facing other pcs, devices generally annoyed of pc's as the controls are computer biased given the unethical 12/8 advatage.

It did not cross my mind tbh but I agree, the pc players are aware that they can get easy wins from most idevice players, which is not even competition. They are against this for this reason

I continue giving you reasons and you just go "first time I've heard of NGS, must be a myth"

That's what staff needs to be focused on, not the complaints of some unknown guy claiming he's from PC graal, and (Male), regardless of whether or not those complaints are spar-skill related or not.